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going to extremes to make a point is incredibly annoying because you aren't debating with the people in front of you, you are ignoring them and taking them to a field they aren't playing on, don't want to play on, and can't understand even what you are talking about.

QUOTE (GO CHI SOX! @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 06:00 PM) I feel the exact opposite, Knapp may not be ready for a couple years, Carrasco and Donald are overrated, and Moreno may be decent. haha, I love these types of analysis.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 06:43 PM) I'm sure. Frankly though the lies have already had the intended effect so it doesn't matter what they say at this point. I agree. Conspiracy theories like these worry me.

Lols. HOW CAN YOU TALK ABOUT HEART DISEASE KAP WHEN YOU EAT CHOLESTEROL

so why don't you all just counter him instead?

ljbl

Kap, I certainly hope lithium is cheap in the new healthcare system.

Knew this thread would be a hoot. Nevertheless, I've never had a problem while driving caused by a bike doing what what they are supposed to do. I pass them, at most with several cars ahead of me it takes less than a minute to get past him/her.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 08:35 PM) Don't cyclists have the same rights on the road as cars? Just move over into the right lane and stay out of my way and we're good. Don't make it difficult for me to pass you. I totally get that riding the sidewalk isn't the greatest idea. On the other hand, motorcyclists who whip around me when I'm doing 75 on the highway... yeah. I'm visualizing you crashing into the back of a truck. haha, same.

What's worse was this kid who yelled at the cyclists, we were in San Francisco where legally cyclists should be treated as a car, so they have right to the whole lane. So annoying. My friend had a drink thrown at him by a passing car, who then had a stop sign. HE caught up to them and pulled his bike in front and just stared at them. They were scared to move. My friend isn't big. I think people think the bike works as weaponry.

QUOTE (JorgeFabregas @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 08:26 PM) If there are no cars around, then I won't stop at all. If I am at a red light with a green left-turn arrow I sometimes go if there are no more cars turning--in part because it seems like this gives me more visibility. True, if there are no cars I don't go to a complete stop but I do slow down enough to make sure there are none. But I file that under "if a tree falls in the woods..."

Nothing really pisses me off more when I'm driving with someone than when they arbitrarily honk at a biker and get pissed off when the biker is doing NOTHING wrong. And pre-emptively, let me say this, as someone who rides bikes I hate when cyclists don't follow the rules of the road either. They SHOULD stop at stop lights and stop signs and everything else. BUt that's beside the point, because what I"m talking about is my experience with getting angry at cyclists merely for being on a road and you have to go around them. Yesterday I was riding and a car rolls down their window, honks and tells me to get the eff off the road. He then realizes he has a stop light ahead, and I kindly roll up next to him. My friends and I continue to get honked and berated for following the law, and now it's at the point where on some roads I've just given up and gone on the sidewalk because I'm sick of getting harrassed. And more embarrassed when someone I'm in the car with does it and screams something idiotic like "the road is for cars". And I'm just wondering where this immediate deep seeded anger-filled responses come from JUST FOR RIDING ON THE ROAD. I've driven past cyclists, it's not that big of an inconvenience. And once more, I'm not defending the ones who breaking the law or anything.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 07:39 PM) That does change the discrepancy. I wonder if there's a transcript of that. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/28/us/28gat...wley&st=cse Not to keep bringing this up, but the woman claims she never said that, still. And the records of the dispatcher show she told crowley she didn't know what race, one possibly hispanic. When Crowley arrived on the scene, the woman merely told him it was her who called. I can't find CNN's clip yet or anything other than what Crowley said, but I'll keep looking.

Sounds like you wanted stimulus refunds in the form of Lowe's gift cards.

I've never claimed that.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 08:43 PM) At this point, his value was near-zero. Getting anything for him at all is a plus. I'd have traded him for Jon Adkins...TODAY I like BA but if he can't get on the field there's no purpose in keeping him here.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 07:24 PM) Fields has plenty of options left and hopefully we're not totally writing him off yet. I'd like to see him swinging the bat everyday in AAA for at least a few weeks. Sorry. What I mean is that when I first saw this deal I was excited that he was replacing Wise, not Fields. I hadn't known how slowed Mark Kotsay had become.

I have experience with the VA. My friends father just had elbow surgery last year through VA. He's now playing tennis.

samesies. Apologies.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 08:27 PM) Yes and that was stupid, although not necessarily "wrong," on Crowley's part. But still Obama shouldn't have weighed in with that question at the end of his healthcare press conference. He really shouldn't weigh in on anything off-topic, nowadays, because the media is hoping to find anything to avoid talking about healthcare. But I reject the notion that an officer cannot be criticized without the claim that all officers are being criticized. Some people make poor choices and deserve to get called on it, especially if they are in power.

You don't find the discrepancy interesting? The cop defends himself by saying that he was called about two black men with back packs on a possible break-in. Yet the phone call mentions nothing of black, nothing of backpacks, in fact it says briefcases (this isn't the thomas crown affair), and states that it could be their house and they were just concerned neighbors in case something came up. Now, I'm not an old black professor who has studied race relations and has probably come across profiling in my life, I'm in pretty good shape being an educated white male with impeccable looks. And for the most part I'm more than polite and submissive to cops. But there have been a few times where I've become extremely frustrated and snippy when continuing to get berated when clearly nothing had been wrong, had given them proof of age, and that nothing was being done wrong, and still they persisted, claiming they had right to check my vehicle, which they didn't. And when I did not give them permission they threatened. now from my personal experience I can see getting really frustrated if a cop were to come in my house late at night claiming I'm a burger burglar after a trip when it is my house. And then further when proven that the house is my own. Because the fact is the officer holds a lot more power than I do. And this officer arresting someone for getting his feelings hurt after doing nothing wrong and really nothing to even provoking an officer really makes me question. At first when I heard that the officer was called on two black males breaking in, I thought it was just a question of things heating up and the officer going too far. BUt now that I know the nature of the phone call, it really makes me wonder.

Kind of disappointed this means the end of Fields instead of Wise. Not that I like Fields, I just especially don't like Wise on this team. A shame Kotsay can't play OF anymore.

Crazy, I could've swore I found some sort of...transcript... and posted it...

You question everything, except select first-hand accounts that fit with your ideology, and clearly applicable to the greater whole. This cannot be questioned, or disputed, because how do you dispute someone's stories? Put them in context? Context is liberal. Collect data? No. And if you believe finding stories that would contradict the first stories could be used to question beliefs, ooh boy, you are dead wrong.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 07:09 PM) That's pretty much my interperetation as well. Gates acted stupidly for not showing ID, for claiming racism, and for trying to continue the confrontation (never a good idea with pretty much any cop). The cop was too impatient and should have been man enough to walk away anyway. The idea that this situation boils down to "the police acted stupidly" is in itself stupid. one thing though, what's worse. Being rude to a cop coming into your home and claiming you broke in, even being disrespectful and crude... or arresting someone.