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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 25, 2008 -> 08:52 PM) Except Dave Matthews is one of the best guitarist of our generation. You can knock his music all you want, but he's a very very good guitarist. Yeah, no come on man. There's a reason every bro with his shirt off is playing #41 or whatever.

I agree with northside on this, that's how I took it as well. i.e. Obama's campaign has been in another class

tpm: Pentagon Confirms That It Told Obama He Couldn't Visit Army Base With Campaign Staff By Greg Sargent - July 25, 2008, 11:13AM I've just gotten clarification from the Pentagon on what really happened with regard to Barack Obama's canceled visit to an Army base in Germany, something the McCain campaign has been using to hit Obama since yesterday. A Pentagon spokesperson confirms to me that because of longstanding Department of Defense regulations, Pentagon officials told Obama aides that he couldn't visit the base with campaign staff. This left Obama with little choice but to cancel the trip, since the plan to visit with campaign aides had been in the works for weeks. The Obama campaign yesterday announced that it had decided to cancel the visit to Landstuhl Regional Medical Center, saying that it would be "inappropriate" to make such a visit as part of a campaign trip. The McCain camp has nonetheless been using Obama's canceled trip to insinuate that he's anti-troops. "Barack Obama is wrong," McCain spokesperson Brian Rogers said in a statement yesterday. "It is never 'inappropriate' to visit our men and women in the military." But it turns out that the Pentagon did in fact tell Obama that in this case, it was not only "inappropriate," but against DOD rules, for him to conduct the visit with campaign staff. "We have longstanding Department of Defense policy in regards to political campaigns and elections," Pentagon spokesperson Elizabeth Hibner told me. "We informed the Obama staff that he was more than welcome to visit as Senator Obama, with Senate staff. However, he could not conduct the visit with campaign staff." After being told this, the Obama campaign announced yesterday that it had decided it was "inappropriate" to make the visit as part of a campaign trip. It's unclear how Obama could have made the visit at all, given the Pentagon's directives. No Senate staff was on the trip, and the Obama camp says they received the Pentagon's directives on Wednesday, after they were already abroad.

Yeah, spoiler tags are such a hassle, you have to...highlight something. What a relief.

Well, if it was really important to Obama to see injured troops, he should've just landed his plane in a field somewhere and coaxed some local boy with a cocacola to rickshaw him to the military base. What's his deal?

you are absurd, they make the trips for weeks than the day before, on a trip planned to the hour, they weren't even sure if his plane could land on the base. Grow up.

The DoD essentially canceled his trip with the troops, but nice try. Actually half the s*** on there doesn't even makes sense.

QUOTE (santo=dorf @ Jul 25, 2008 -> 02:41 PM) Are we expected to put a spoiler tag around every key point in every movie ever made? I watched Gone with the Wind last night, I think it's fair to expect not to have no country for old men ruined for me when I go into a dark knight thread. But I realize hitting a button is pretty tough.

maybe this oil spill in the gulf should be of concern right now?

considerable questions would've been raised if Colin Powell resigned suddenly during the run-up to the war, to say the least.

you should thank your lucky stars this isn't american idol. All those McCain supporters having to figure out text messaging, it'd be a disaster.

btw, just cause it isn't the dark knight doesn't mean you shouldn't put other movies in the spoiler tags.

tomatoes

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 25, 2008 -> 02:09 AM) Does this mean he could be the next Josh Hamilton? this is hilarious

how much money does hester make for the bears thou?

I was so mad we gave up Miguel Olivo in that deal. KW totally got fleeced!

All this talk of duscherer and were gonna end up with someone nobody thought was going to get traded from a team nobody is talking about. book it.

it wasn't as good a speech, but the parallels to this and the race speech are there.

Yes, who would want to learn from the past and emulate successes!

Someone else would have to take the stance for him, then he could repeat it.

QUOTE (Cknolls @ Jul 24, 2008 -> 08:26 PM) Give me a qoute of MCCain claiming he is an expert on IRAQ. I'll raise you his campaign.

those Quinnepac polls were pretty whacky.

The funniest part about this whole thing is the allusion to Obama's speech that it was all about how America sucks. What a baseless thought. If you could just admit, that you knew, going into this speech, that you had your mind made up already that whatever Obama said it would fit your own narrative that he's a Euro-lovin, American-hatin liberal, this would all be a lot easier. There was one line in the speech - about how America hasn't always lived up to its ideals - a statement completely true - undeniably true, in a speech that trumpeted America's role in modern Europe. How, in a speech where he trumpets the Berlin air raids, America's role in freeing Berlin, religious race gender equality, be seen as an "America Sucks" speech. A speech where he isolates and gives a long pre and post pause to "I love America" that is then met by cheers, that is an "America sucks" speech. what a joke.

Hahahaha

How dare Obama use his time oversees to improve American foreign relations!