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while I agree, come on, we all know why Leury has had to play so much this year. The reason he is valuable is because he can step in for pretty much any injured player.

So I just want to be real and clear. I loved Fields and really, really was amazed when it became clear there was a possibility bears could get him without needing to go up to like 4. That really only happened a few weeks ago. He played the top competition, started for multiple years, and has a tantalizing package of arm strength, accuracy and mobility. It's the kind of guy you go after. But, if he does fail, it is likely due to struggling to read coverages and decisionmaking. That is also most quarterbacks. But I also think this criticism is too harshly applied to Fields mainly because he was one of the few QBs to have lots and lots of reps over multiple years for teams to adjust. Can I think of a QB who succeeded despite questions around their decisionmaking and ability to read coverages? Yes, his name was Deshaun Watson, and he was also getting crushed with similar comments. I don't think people accurately remember pre-nfl draft chatter about Watson, but Bears fans online weren't enamored at all with him. They wanted jamal adams. He had poor ball placement, and made bad decisions. Would just pull the ball down after his first read. Mahomes could get through progressions but was critiqued for his field vision and decision making. He succeeded, and it doesn't mean Fields will. Fields was in an offense that prioritized the deep ball, and there were reasons why fields processed the way he did. He had some examples of really missing how teams were disguising coverages, but also incredible examples of reading what happens and taking advantage. He will need to improve and if he doesn't he'll fail. There's no guarantee Fields is great. There's no guarantee on any of these guys. But after the last 5 years, if you haven't revised your views on what is necessary for QBs to succeed you are overconfident. Josh Allen was crushed. Nobody with accuracy that poor could succeed. He improved it. Kyler Murray/Mayfield are succeeding despite height. Lamar Jackson became accurate downfield over an offseason.

I like him because he's one of the few that people think could be an LT.

No doubt, had a bunch of wings with my buddies and saw the trade with the bears and lost my mind. Had no doubt.

The run on CBs has left a nice OT board in round 2

Also, that’s Georgia that fucked up. They chose the guy that paid his dues, and lost a natty because of it.

Glad Parkman is ruining a perfectly good night. Nobody cares.

Lol, all you talked about was how you knew the bears would take jones since you hate him, they take field and you adjust to same bullshit. Those are two great defenses and Indiana does a lot of difficult coverages, show me when Lance or Wilson saw those.

I don’t know about overpay, I’m thrilled we have our second and third this year. this is interesting:

I feel a victory lap. The national media was so obtuse about what bears would do and how board would shape out. Im thrilled.

Start a new one I say

Love the 7 innings

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For Rodgers, San Fran is clearly best, and they'll have a decent package only pre-draft. For Packers, I feel like Denver would definitely be one of the more attractive packages in getting him out of NFC, getting top 10 pick and the potential they still aren't that good for the next (realistically) 2 years of picks. But I think every nfl fan has to feel like he just ends up in NE because that's just how stuff works for them.

For sure, or even post-draft. But boy it sure has escalated from Rodgers is unhappy, to rappaport saying it was just contract drama, to then it being a whole bunch of people clearly from rodgers side being like no I thought I was being traded get me out. But the lesson of the offseason so far has just been if the teams don't want to trade, just hold on, it eventually gets tenable.

AmichaelsNBA huh

I think he could very well be right on how good each QB ends up, I just think it is a huge huge unlikelihood that Fields would end up drafted at 32.

No it does not.

For the record I was team chatroom. I had a blast. I was an obnoxious teenager though and I can't imagine reading what I wrote lol. But, I would say to everyone that a big difference from back then (sports illustrated episode aside), is that when you wrote stuff on soxtalk it was in its own world. We know the beat writers read soxtalk, we know players read soxtalk. We know of all the snitch tweeters on twitter. I know when someone says something heated it's more venting and they'd never mean it to escalate or get seen by a player and actually hurt someone. But it like, really really could now. Ok, that's me being empathetic to shitposters, I need to go take a shower. No more death threats!

I don't find the "the bears are terrible now so should rebuild because if they don't they'll be terrible, but they already are terrible, so they Who cares, that is literally the same thing to me. You already believe they are terrible. If they rebuild next year, they can trade roquan, jackson, get comp picks for robinson, leno. They can trade this QB they acquire for a 2nd. They can do whatever they want.

so take the bet.

Despite game threads being miserable unless I'm posting in them, I would say people don't really remember mid-00s soxtalk. It was a lot younger, and there was consistently pretty terrible jokey stuff insinuated about why ozzie chose players. There was a split where gamethreads were a bit more positive because all the negative stuff went into the chat, which was a nihilists playpen. Thank god that does not exist.

I will bet $10 this is wrong. Players will throw a fit after the TV deals. There is no way this happens.

I'll take the aggressive contrarian and point out an option many of the "it will be too hard for bears to trade up" people seem to miss. There have been notes of vikes/chargers possibly looking to trade down, I think many teams would prefer it since this was such a difficult year for scouting. But pace and nagy clearly want to go after a guy, I think national media are underselling their aggressiveness, and the board is lining up their way in a way it didn't look like a month ago, where it felt like falcons would take a QB at 4 and bengals could trade out to the broncos. Rich Hill value chart: Bears trade #20 and #83 to Vikings for #14 (one spot ahead of NE) Bears trade #14 and 2022 first round pick +2022 third round pick to Carolina Panthers for pick #8. Bears select Fields/Lance. Trade 1: bears give up 321 points, minnesota gives up 325 Trade 2: Bears recreate Philly/Dolphins trade Bears can then trade back in 2nd or select a mayfield/radunz

Yep, but at least Notre Dame had some legit defenses. And I guess I'd say how many QBs looked not notable vs. Notre Dame then kept their first round pick status and panned out? That's part of it too. Indiana and Northwestern's defenses were pretty cool and complex this year, so I think that's great experience for fields. If you couldn't beat Mizzou's defense that was fine, then I don't think that much of you.