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I mean, regardless of what this dude thinks of fields, if he really thinks nfl teams are going to see fields drop all the way to 32, bypassing totally sensible backup roles in PIT and NO... whatever. Simms family.

Not sold on this at all. You remove velocity from the pitcher they may have never made it to begin with, regardless of moxy. And if anything letting him develop in the bullpen is an old school move, that used to be a lot more common. And it's really hard to use this frame of reference for Garret Crochet when it no longer appears he is throwing at max effort. And what else can we see from Crochet this year? Last year, his pitch mix was 85% fastball, 10% slider, 5% changeup. f This year it is 69% fastball, 19% slider, 12% changeup. His movement has improved, with his fastball riding better and slider improved. I don't see the signs that Garret Crochet isn't learning how to be a pitcher this year in the bullpen, this would make more sense to me if he was still just out there riding 101 mph fastballs 85% of the time like last year.

uhh ok

peeps think denvers trading for Bridgewater. Cue draft night, where they trade up for fields and dash my heart.

Yeah I think package was basically agreed to and then haggling over money owed let Dombrowski and Illitch sweep in. Pretty sure Illitch made back the money by taking MIGUEL FREAKING CABRERA jerry. Oh well.

My favorite article was a review of that trade that showed the sox package would have actually been the best for the Marlins, though obviously at the time the tigers blew everyone away. I feel like that trade def puts us in in 2012, and in 2010 as well, when we cratered after manny ramirez corpse was acquired.

LOL this actually pulls him ahead of Trout I think (.428 vs. .426?)

I'll defend Tigers trying to make it last with a great group as long as possible. They aren't here because of Miggy. They just had horrible talent evals over and over. But the Royals did too, yet look in much better shape because Dayton Moore can scout and Avila just really seems to suck as GM. Mize was so great in college but I think that's last time a GM goes with a splitty guy so high. Glad Giolito is gonna have a hot night, should help him warm up faster.

Yeah haha for me the reason I posted this is because I felt like sox were underperforming than learned that we were one of the best offenses, and teams like the braves have been ice cold. But also it just matched what felt like was happening in college baseball where the top hitters have just not felt near as prolific and really struggling with k rates relative to prior. I'd gather a part of it is I'm sure many avoided winter leagues, and it is much easier for hitters to train in isolation than hitters.

Hadn’t thought about that, would be interesting if that is the case re: drag

I think there is a strong argument that relative to his time periods offense he is the greatest hitter of all time.

Something that underscores this, we’d all say abreus had a really weak start, but even prior to yesterday’s home run he was actually an above average offensive player this season. Just a ton of bad so far.

this has felt like same issue in college baseball as well, contact way harder for bats right now. I wonder if this is a product of fresher arms that will eventually deaden, or if pitching dev and tech has taken a leap and hitters haven’t adjusted yet.

I wasn't a fan for how Dayton Moore maintained their window, but he definitely can scout. They have collected some great talent, and they don't seem to g.a.f. about industry trends which is kinda fun, honestly. We better get used to it. There is a fast expiration date on being the young exciting team.

I agree on Fields, I am prepping myself to be devastated in a scenario where he falls past falcons, falls past bengals, start dreaming about swapping with panthers only for broncos/pats swapping with dolphins for him. But while I agree on the traits, I think you would also look at that and say Jones isn't it, but I'm not even sure on that. The skills of lance, fields, lawrence and wilson give them a greater vareity of skills to be valuable in (scrambling, buying time, broken down plays), but we've also seen QBs with those abilities that when they are only delivering as average teams are ready to move on anyway. Jones has to be exceptional in his passing accuracy and decisionmaking, but we do know that a Matt Ryan is valuable even as a statuesque passer. Drew Brees, Brady are obvious. But it has limited Cousins, it was obvious how it hurt a Foles. And much of those guys were not top ten, except Ryan. So I also get the people who wouldn't want to take Jones top ten, as planning on someone being extremely elite in one or two skills as they move up a level feels like you are making a bigger gamble. There is a possibility that the players playing QB are more athletic now, and more physically capable of mechanical adjustments, footwork adjustments, from the time when maybe qb was being self selected for more tall, right-handed white dudes with strong arms that interviewed well. So basically we are in the middle of a time where the rules are being re-written for what it means to be a successful QB. That's pretty exciting. And overall I think I would lean more toward a model like Bill Parcells which allows for a QB to get there any number of ways, it just requires that they showed prodigious talent early. It will miss outliers, like Allen and Brady, but would have also guided you to Watson over Trubisky. Regardless,

having a first rounder makes realy draws me in. Listening to NFL draft podcasts and such, man what a bunch of shameless front runners. You'd never think groups like this got Josh Allen so wrong by way they talk about it. And now they shame teams for thinking they could find next Josh Allen when they apparently didn't learn any real lesson from him. To me, the lesson from Josh Allen they seem to push is now just raw lower-competition level guys can improve, but not the thing they laughed at him about was nobody with accuracy completion level that low would succeed. So for me, what should be revised is if ANY of the heuristics people had for judging QBs pre-draft are at all helpful. What is the "accuracy"-like criticism that will be applied to a QB that you'll safely fall back on that will cause you to miss? Is it this decision-making stuff with Fields - causing you to look over the incredible package of talent? The lack of attempts for Lance? The talent around Jones? And by same token, is hitting some of these heuristics that were suppose to matter making you overrate some others? I don't really know, but the success of Mahomes vs. Allen vs. Jackson vs. Watson were all soooooo different in the last several years that if anything it should have caused this groups confidence to crater but it seems like they just act like it was obvious and became more confident. baseball and basketball media >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> football

One thing that has helped me this year is realizing how frustrating every other team has been unless you are a dodgers or, to this point, royals fan. And Dodgers maybe join the list with their injuries soon. It seems sox aren't only ones that have been like "starters good, bullpens bad" so far. Feels good to crush the bad teams, gotta say.

I'm also very happy with his 6% walk rate. If his continued hitting success gets him to an 8% walk rate he really has give himself a good baseline to be productive even in his power range. Narvaez was always kind of a template for me there. Pre-power narvaez. He never had the contact skills of Nick, but he had no reason for pitchers to be afraid of him yet he maintained a crazy high OBP his first two years despite a paltry iso. Pitchers in MLB are very good but most of em can't hit their spots, so Nick can still take advantage of that.

He took a home run cut yesterday. That's the evolution, when he gets into favorable counts where he feels good about what's coming, he should feel okay to take a big cut. Nick is playing fantastic ball and I'm glad when he comes up to the plate. Fine if the dude keeps flipping off the haters (me) for his whole career.

Hell yeah

Steps of caulfield posting: 1. See a players name in yahoo news binge 2. Regurgitate all players names in wherever thread you happen to post 3. get pushback on why player you don’t really know was mentioned 4. furiously, quickly research to try and create a reason why it makes sense 5. dig deeper hole 6. Never back down

Yeah we should have traded Betts for Verdugo.

this is interesting, you don’t often hear Denver trading out of top ten

As Chicago fans, we are in this position constantly, no guarantees next regime is any better so all I can do as a fan is hope they make the next best decision. I don’t really think Paces evaluation here matters as much to me here, Fields especially has enough of the great QBs qualities that you hope you get lucky. Not like nfl as a whole is crushing the QB evaluation beat.