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One reason I'm starting to lean Lance over Fields even though I'm not there yet is the smart football people are being very arrogant about fields and they have been so aggressively wrong about QBs recently.

I'm just going to speak as a mizzou fan: it's always hard to give an endorsement of QBs who don't tear up Mizzou or feel like monsters who can't be stopped. Even though Trask it never felt like "holy crap Kyle Trask" as much as their crazy skill positions. And just watching SEC it was never that scary like "oh no we're facing Mond or Franks". Feels a lot like Josh Dobbs to me. No doubt great college qbs. But I thought Arkansas looked better offensively without franks But I never thought Gabbert or Lock would be that great though I rooted for them. Everything looked easy to Jones, that final score was way closer, and Jones sat out the fourth. Trask had a great statline, but toney and pitts just ran through our defenders and his two years vs us they made him work a decent amount. Like Kyle Allen always seemed like a bigger star than Mond. This is probably dumb college fan stuff, but after the trubisky experience plus seeing both mizzou QBs fail and like Josh Freeman fail after never seeing him dominate mizzou, it's like a small heuristic I can't let go of.

Who is that? Just Jones? I would be thrilled walking away with Lance or Fields and I don't think there is a real argument either would be a 2nd or 3rd rounder a few months back. I'd also be happy in the scenario jones falls and we can get him for a single pick. I know I'm in minority there but I always thought the level of talent around him critique was not helpful. Bears would definitely be committed to non-mobile QBs at that point, with Dalton, Foles and Jones, but maybe that's good to have a clear future on what's needed to build around.

While there are going to be varying degrees which we won't lay out to allow interpretations, I think personal attacks should be more interpreted as bringing in stuff outside the field (family, etc) to be critical just because they made a bad play. But there are degrees of this, drake laroche posts were family but he also brought the kid into the white sox business. So, I know people want firm guidance but we aren't going to provide it, you aren't going to be banned if a player airballs a throw to first and you call them a moron, no.

No it was when you posted a dramatic goodbye post and quit because you couldn't take @ron883's joke. I just find it weird how often you lecture people when they respond to critical posts from you for not understanding "jokes" but then you had to write a pity letter and quit due to a poster's actions.

Remember when you quit the site?

I kinda think the Broncos still saying they could go QB is more to encourage teams to jump them and guarantee they can get a top 5 player on their board

It would be a major miracle. But if NE scoffs at 4, I do think bears should go all out. See if teams like LAC or MN would trade to #20 for this years 2nd. Then to move from 6/7/8 is more palatable to trade out team, they pick up a future first and 2022 third like the eagles trade

I don't think this is true, they kept these guys on. Ted Phillips has not shown himself to do anything other than rubber stamp stuff like that.

wellp

what does this mean?

Things lining up well. If we are staring at a top 4 with Lance AND fields available bears should go for it. Maybe seek a safe landing at vikes 14 spot first, then jump from there.

albright's final mock has 49ers choosing Lance and Jones falling all the way to the Bears. Seems plausible with his reporting that it seems like broncos have other plans.

So I watched Godzilla v. Kong, was really fun but that screenplay was super sloppy. I could have gone without the entire sidestory with stranger things folks. I'm not even quite sure what they accomplished at the end? Why was he still fighting after the drink was spilled? The gravity stuff in hollow earth was fun, I kinda wish they'd have played around with kong fighting something where he's going in between the gravity poles. But yeah to me compared to the two otehrs in the series, the plot seemed especially contrived this time, but they made clear they didn't care, so I didn't care too much. However still feels like godzilla is pulling his punches with kong. Dude just shoot your fire breath at him the whole time, don't even bother with hand to hand combat!

the latest mock draft from BA has andrew painter for the sox at 22, jobe at 11.

This isn’t true.

I mean, regardless of what this dude thinks of fields, if he really thinks nfl teams are going to see fields drop all the way to 32, bypassing totally sensible backup roles in PIT and NO... whatever. Simms family.

Not sold on this at all. You remove velocity from the pitcher they may have never made it to begin with, regardless of moxy. And if anything letting him develop in the bullpen is an old school move, that used to be a lot more common. And it's really hard to use this frame of reference for Garret Crochet when it no longer appears he is throwing at max effort. And what else can we see from Crochet this year? Last year, his pitch mix was 85% fastball, 10% slider, 5% changeup. f This year it is 69% fastball, 19% slider, 12% changeup. His movement has improved, with his fastball riding better and slider improved. I don't see the signs that Garret Crochet isn't learning how to be a pitcher this year in the bullpen, this would make more sense to me if he was still just out there riding 101 mph fastballs 85% of the time like last year.

uhh ok

peeps think denvers trading for Bridgewater. Cue draft night, where they trade up for fields and dash my heart.

Yeah I think package was basically agreed to and then haggling over money owed let Dombrowski and Illitch sweep in. Pretty sure Illitch made back the money by taking MIGUEL FREAKING CABRERA jerry. Oh well.

My favorite article was a review of that trade that showed the sox package would have actually been the best for the Marlins, though obviously at the time the tigers blew everyone away. I feel like that trade def puts us in in 2012, and in 2010 as well, when we cratered after manny ramirez corpse was acquired.

LOL this actually pulls him ahead of Trout I think (.428 vs. .426?)

I'll defend Tigers trying to make it last with a great group as long as possible. They aren't here because of Miggy. They just had horrible talent evals over and over. But the Royals did too, yet look in much better shape because Dayton Moore can scout and Avila just really seems to suck as GM. Mize was so great in college but I think that's last time a GM goes with a splitty guy so high. Glad Giolito is gonna have a hot night, should help him warm up faster.

Yeah haha for me the reason I posted this is because I felt like sox were underperforming than learned that we were one of the best offenses, and teams like the braves have been ice cold. But also it just matched what felt like was happening in college baseball where the top hitters have just not felt near as prolific and really struggling with k rates relative to prior. I'd gather a part of it is I'm sure many avoided winter leagues, and it is much easier for hitters to train in isolation than hitters.