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I guess I would say that one of the reasons to want Hinch is because he has experience with the role of manager integrated with a more top down structure. Him being used to not having full control of personnel on field decisions and development is a feature not a bug. But it was in a skeezy, but successful org, and he’s coming from that. I just don’t want Sox hiring the last of the superstar managers. Get a guy that will get out of your way, even if he is so spineless he doesn’t object to cheating he felt was wrong.

Id be fine with Hinch managing Sox. But it is so weird watching sox fans, with the opportunity to get him now real, starting to talk like his role in the scandal was almost a positive good.

Which makes them expensive to acquire and not a great option for the Sox. I’m not throwing away a bunch of prospect currency to pry Mike Yaz away from SFG

When that trade happened we all opined for Liberatore. Rays are just such a good org.

This TBSproduction is excellent

Soxtalk routinely acts like mets and giants are sellers despite all evidence to contrary.

They went ice cold with this strategy in the 10s though. But there are plenty of decent stop gaps I agree.

So outside the obvious, I’d really love if we heard the Sox call Chris Fetter from Michigan. He’s been pursued a lot recently, and you know, Hahn and Michigan.

It’s one of those things where it’s fine if it meant we got premium upgrades in pitching.

It’s been 5 days. Get a grip.

Edwin Encarnacion?

I don’t think it’s good but his metrics go up and down each year so hard to tell

I see no indication that any of this is true. The likelihood is multiple of their targets cannot be interviewed currently.

All the outfielders I didn’t want last year because I wanted them to swing for a long term elite player look good this year because I just want all focus on pitching. (well except for Mazara, did not want him).

I wonder about the braves and intentions with a player like Duvall. Pache has arrived, and Waters isn’t far behind. Duvall isn’t expensive if our pitching acquisitions are. OTOH, he is pretty all or nothing but the power is crazy. More of a backup acquisition if we do well with FA pitching.

This is just so dependent on who they hire and the relationships they have. I imagine with sox going after more experienced guys, and letting go of cooper, they didn't do so to then tell them who their pitching coach will be.

That was nice of him to say, but he completely revamped his entire motion over the course of an offseason that was not overseen by Cooper. I'm sure cooper taught him stuff about pitching but I'd put more of his success to Farquhar teaching him about pitching his fastball high in the zone and the team that re-designed his motion than coop keeping him prepared or whatever.

Yeah, so I stand by what I said that you are using the results of a silly best of 3 series to justify a bunch of meatbally takes on "championship blood" and "momentum". At the end of 60 games, a bunch of teams were closely grouped together. Some won the next few games. Therefore, the white sox and central divisions are terrible, they didn't have to play amazing teams like the angels, rangers, mets or diamondbacks and it inflated their records. Had the sox and As been in a play-in game and sox won, then according to you they'd clearly be the better team and justification that the years of playoff ineptitude shows the As just need to learn how to win. Had the Rays/Astros been in a best of 5, they'd have swept the Astros and you'd not be hyping them up now as championship blood that (lol) proved it wasn't because of cheating and faced a favorable schedule to get to the ALCS. Sox just need to learn how to win. Their third starter situation was no match for the As situation of Mike Fiers and Sean Manaea. That winning 2 games out of 3 against the white sox clearly shows how big of a gulf there was between the two franchises.

If the cubs and marlins played 100 3-game series, I'd expect the Cubs to win >50% of them If the Reds and Braves played 100 3-game series, I'd expect the braves to win >50% of them If the Twins and Astros played 100 3-game series, I'd expect the twins to win >50% of them If the As and White Sox played 100 3-game series, I'd expect the White Sox to win >50% of them If the Yankees and Indians played 100 3-game series, I'm 50-50. But I don't think Bieber would get rocked more than 1-2x out of 10. I don't find the cards/brewers to be very good, but I didn't think the Padres were very good either. But in a 60 game sample, the padres were better. 60 games even limited is > 2 games no matter if it's the playoffs.

Develop in AAA. None of the pitchers you mentioned are good enough to demand a starting spot on a playoff team. I remember just 6 months ago when people argued the 2020 white Sox were deep at starting rotation

I mean, read the last sentence of what you quoted. The reason they are fine is because they are not an obstacle to any of what you said.

On the other hand, sox really seem to be in a groove with ground ball pitchers. OTOH, will we have to deal with a pitcher in stroman that might not be able to complete the season due to no pitches thrown this year? I think I'd be okay with Gausman, I don't like how poor his fastball does even though it should be better but I always love splitfinger pitchers since Jose Contreras. Some combo of gausman, Stroman, Odorizzi is entirely acceptable to me. Especially because they are so easy to spin off if a better pitcher becomes available.

The good news is because the white sox won a playoff game that proves they were better than all the other Central teams regardless of the regular season so they are fine.

This is skip bayless quality stuff.

This is non-sense, the winner of the world series this year should be able to hang its flag high as anyone, but the turnout of a bunch of 3-game series is random as hell.