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Listen, the talent may end up being fine. I'll check again, but before it was only the cardinals that overspent the slot on multiple college players. I don't give the sox the benefit of the doubt when they veer from the rest that they executed well and it was all part of a new brilliant plan. It may very well be that they had a small group of players and they walked them down the board with higher slot bonuses. But even then I'd wonder if we were overconfident in these evaluations.

Yeah, and this losing streak is happening after it was "stabilized". Pham was brought in, Eloy is back. Vaughn isn't ice cold (maybe he is I can't bother to look). Our pitching has 3 legit starting pitchers. Despite that, it's still same old garbage where the team built for improved fundamentals is still getting laughed at on defense with baserunning miscues and poor choices. It's a joke.

Some people you can just smell the loser all over them. I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a plume of Grifols stink that can be seen on Doppler. God…how much weight was haber pulling for this org? Guy may have been worth 30 wins.

It is astonishing how bad this season is. Like you think you think there isn't much difference between a bad season and a terrible one, but then you get this historically bad run (without even getting a #1 pick) and it is just horrendous. When we had that run of around .500 there was this thought that we were stabilizing and turning around. But every team has runs in the season of .500. It's just bad teams surround it by losing streaks and good teams with winning streaks. White sox are surrounding it with month long losing streaks. I don't even remember winning in july?

Maybe we could confuse a team looking for tanner scott

Flush it

He’s solid but too low ceiling for me. Seems like a guy the dodgers maxed out with their pixie dust.

Go to the fangraphs or whatever your choice is of website's leaderboards. Go to the pitchers and look on the first page for players that signed for cheap this year that are now a top pitcher. Now go to the position players. You'll have to go to page 3. Who is the Eric Fedde of position players this year? There are Fedde's every year. Building an offense out of FA would be committing to Rangers level of spending. You build your rotation first, they'll have atrophied by time you get the hitting. Twins/rangers...Baltimore. So many build their rotations later.

all the more reason to not stock up on it first

It will be a lot more expensive to get hitting. It made no sense to specifically plug anything on an org that was about to win 40 games. He should have been looking for the best package.

If offense is going down…obviously hitting would be more valuable. Babe Ruth wasn’t less valuable in his era because fewer home runs were hit

absolutely.

The cease return was stupid because of their demand to focus it on pitching. Absolutely idiotic then and now.

He only went 7th, not like he dropped out of the first round.

I will say - similar to our last blow up and trade, we do have somewhat good timing in that a lot of the top teams have good to great farms.

exactly.

I was coming here hoping a birdie would drop what was written. Heartening to see. Terrified to see Getz trade.

It’s not about college players being lucrative, it’s about boosters with a lot of car dealer-…er money that like to spend on college athletics.

Not saying this is a package i'd take for crochet but while the top has positions and profiles that aren't great fits for sox, Zyhir Hope and Joendry Vargas would be guys I'd love to have on the sox.

I would like Won-Bin Cho as an add-on with the hope he still has some power to find.

So the only other team that this happened to a bit so far is the Cardinals, who paid overslot for college players in the 7th, 8th and 9th rounds, as well as slightly over on Wetherholt in the 1st. Their biggest overage was Jack Findlay in the 8th who got 400k vs the slotted amount of 229k. That 171k difference is the most comparable to the 165k overage the White Sox gave Saucke. They paid their 8th rounder like a 5th round pick, sox paid their fourth rounder like a third rounder.

yeah…I see no other teams struggling with this. Just Sox. Well see if that’s the case after more numbers come in.

I’m thru round 4 and saucke is the first over slot college player I’ve seen.

Ok you are saying these particular players didn’t maximize their earnings immediately. But is an MLB scouting director worse off that he gets to take Stovall after seeing him three years at Arkansas, which does a pretty damn good job developing, and seeing his weaknesses and strengths develop rather than paying him $2.1 out of high school? Id say no it’s a benefit. As for players getting hurt by it, we don’t know how much Stovall got paid during his years, it was unlikely $1.4 million, but was probably significant. The difference may not be as much of a gamble as $2.1 mill vs nothing. It’s 4th round slot ($650ish) + NIL. And three years as a baseball player in college rather than some podunk town. it all seems like it’s working fine for everyone.

(Not that he’d never make majors, but at this age that he’d be here dominating)