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well the thread title was truer than we knew.

I'm really just gonna assume it's lip service because I cant handle how bad the bulls could be another year with him. https://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2019/02/06/nba-team-values-2019-knicks-on-top-at-4-billion/#123b8bde6671 I don't know if anyone saw this. But imagine if the Knicks actually pull off their offseason. The bulls will be alone among that top 15 teams for inadequate front office.

Was just laughing thinking about if I could go back in time and tell suddenly optimistic me that with all of that cap space I realized bulls had, with a top pick coming and a nice group with Markannen, that it would basically turn into zach lavine and otto porter.

Yeah my Reds fan friend thought they were getting Realmuto with India and I was pessimistic that the Marlins would trade Realmuto for a player that had only really performed at an elite level for 3 months of his career.

I understand this view but it also predicates itself on valuing the full 6 years of a young pitching prospect. I'd rather get the predictable hitters long term, and use the flexibility in money and additional prospects to get professional pitchers as I need them.

I find it too believable that a guy can be fixed when he looks for help outside of our organization.

Realmuto was their one big chip though, I'm not using it to acquire a 19 year old pitcher, much as I love him. I would have definitely tried to get more position players.

Look at the top 5 from 2017: https://www.mlb.com/yankees/news/top-international-prospects-sign-on-july-2/c-239881502 Franco may be top prospect in baseball by July Flores was very highly thought of before tragically dying Marte had vision issues that voided that contract, not even sure if he was considered top 5 after that Pereira is already top 15 in the yankees system Pardinho is ranked 7th in Jays system and had 64ks in 50 IP in Rookie league. All this to say, these kids are still mostly 18 and already important prospects! Not "maybe we'll see them in A ball after 7 years" type prospects, but legit value guys. So, basically, sign the top guys. That's complicated though, because the scouts start these relationships when these guys are 14 and it just happens that the yanks, rays, twins, cubs ( in past) have been better about getting on these guys earlier. Now money isn't everything, and if sox have a list that looks like yankees last year I'll be pretty happy: https://www.mlb.com/news/july-2-international-prospects-signing-tracker/c-283495622

I was fine with the Joc trade but will have some fomo on seeing if driveline fixed Fulmer.

I don't think this is true, they still want to win this year and just upgraded their catcher and then some, at a cost of a tremendous but young pitcher whom could get injured at any point.

No I don't think the positions would translate so cleanly. Cease, Basabe or Adolfo, Flores sure, maybe pilkington. Would be close.

Ha, just thought about if the Marlins now have enough to sign that Cuban SS prospect. Would be brutal for Os fans. Last year they thought they had victor victor and he went to marlins right? THis would be a hilarious double gut punch.

I think it could affect Joc Pederson if the dodgers pulled out to see what could be done to get Realmuto. Weird though, if they were preparing to send Verdugo you'd think that would trump Phillies deal. I like Sixto more, but he's a few years away and a pitcher.

Sixto is really good but yeah. I still like Alfaro. Lighter than I expected for sure.

And they guy they hold up to show they improved (Adolfo) was one of the top three signings in the class.

Honestly I think it's more likely based off of the people I know that they are aware sox are going after some big free agents and may not know much about either.

If the Phillies sign Harper, I am really not that worried about being squeezed by Manny. His market will be sox vs. pads...sox are even better positioned there than sox vs. phils.

Also it's a crime that LM hasn't been allowed to try and develop as a 5 more often.

I mean if you get Zion and get a good point guard, a team construction of PG/lavine/porter/zion/markannen with WCJ as the backup big (can guard 4s and 5s) is really nice actually because markannens spacing helps facilitate zion's lack of shot initially. Lavine Porter and Markannen should create nice spacing. You basically need a PG that can play some defense though.

Sure, but within white sox fans, casual fans pay attention to what hardcore sox fans pay attention to. The idea that a casual fan doesn't know that sox are trying to get one of the best players in the league I'm not very convinced of.

It's interesting for the whole league though, not just the white sox. Like it's not surprising at all to me that mets ended up so well, they have an incredible amount of redundancy in position players with at least league average guys, and it showed up that way. I see many scenarios they don't perform well, but a good way to the playoffs has been not ending up having to play charlie tilson and adam engel in the same outfield for a month.

Maybe I'm crazy but I'm not sure I would ever want to give up that much for a catcher. Feels like a position you either make fit with free agents or get lucky with your own prospect (or as other teams call it: player development) and don't let them go. Realmuto is awesome, but who knows when it all takes its toll. I really liked sixto and alfaro.

I don't know, the yankees cubs rangers braves seem to go after the top talents every year and they seem to get good production, while the sox keep saying they are playing the quantity game and we have 1 player in the last 6 years that might be in AA that wasn't a professional cuban player to show for it.

I think it's a good signal of depth.

Yeah, I think underrated his at this point this still isn’t a very deep team, especially pitching. The help is still too far.