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That is a classic Heyman tweet.

Prepare to hold a jockstrap for some reason BRYCE HARPER

But, as Sharp mentioned, many shorter qbs were prematurely moved to other positions and were not given the same amount of opportunities as taller qbs. That is starting to change. The problem with rex wasn't just that he was small, he had small hands and had terrible judgment and poor accuracy. He'd have been bad at 6'4"

Actual baseball is here.

I can't tell if it's media driven due to interest or boras driven but with harper specifically that camp has seemed to do a really good job of creating the appearance of momentum each time they meet with someone (also spreading out the meetings). But obviously, it hasn't changed the actual dynamic, they aren't signing a 2 year deal apparently.

...very disappointed. They should have plunged resources into this class after Robert.

Right, I mean it's basically that the calculation for any other position beside quarterback would point you to baseball as best career choice (Samardjiza), but for QB it's actually the other way. Now if the dude was like Kris Bryant in college, it may be different, but he had a lot of development to do.

sorry to beg but If anyone is linked to sox I'd be much appreciated.

Bears, like every team in the NFL, can do quite a bit of maneuvering to lift their cap. I would not give up assets for Johnson however.

I think the last few years teams have absolutely been shifting on the "CW" ideology on prototypical QBs and what's needed. Here's a good warren sharp thread The tweets above it are even better but that's a lot of work and I'm not @Sleepy Harold level yet

But his guaranteed money from his (likely) first round deal would exceed that of his guaranteed money from baseball. And the likelihood of him getting a second, even backup, deal from football is greater than baseball. I can't think of a recent first round pick that didn't get additional contracts. Even RG3 did, adding to his money total. Plus RG3 got some very good sponsorship deals. Yeah actually even RGIII has made $30 mill in his career. I would put the likelihood of his earnings in the nfl being greater than football at a much higher percentage likelihood.

He’s a very raw baseball player, he will almost certainly make more in NFL. Backup QBs still make around 8 mill per year.

Sounds like they are dead then.

You can put Harper and machado on this team and it’s not even as good as the 2018 nats. You have a lot of upgrades to make with just your farm

The already producing studs may make money too. What if your bullpen needs to get over the top? Pitching? You limit your flexibility.

The situation Jimenez will be entering is much more favorable. If he hits under .700 OPS his first full year it will be a disaster. If he does it his first month and a half... we’ll just say it’s due to cold. This guy does have high expectations, but he welcomes them.

The specific example of Mike Trout struggling as a 19 year old was used, I took exception to that, I also quoted it. Who cares if Jimenez is not appreciated to the right degree. An .820 OPs is obviously going to be great to watch. But what if it’s .750? I certainly expect more. Not every prospect struggles right away, just ours. Juan Soto and Acuna has .920 Ops as 19 and 20 year olds. It’s fine to expect Jimenez to be good.

Yep that’s what I said!

He was also 3 years younger and only played 1.5 years of MiLB ball, not 5 years like Eloy. Also so what? Take his first 162 and it looks a lot better. This is like a “Jordan was cut from his high school basketball team” thing.

Just remember this is 5-7 AAV higher six years from now. Even if the sox have to give an asset, this is not an untenable position. What puts them in a terrible position is if the bulk of their rebuild doesn't develop, then the one asset they have (manny) will not net much of a return because he is expensive.

The sox have 6 years to find an adequate 3b replacement then that is cheaper, and can trade off manny.

Yep, having to kind of stitch together the conservative and aggressive narratives on their offer. Hopefully only a few more days of that.

One thing that I'm surprised by (and I can't wait to see if we get a full story of this courting) Is I thought the sox would start off bidding with a hard aggressive offer, try and sign quick before other teams and maybe have one counterpunch in them before they tapped out. That worried me. It feels like they actually went with a lower end offer and have just been riding this wave of the teams involved knowing there aren't many bidders (maybe 2) and them playing this prisoners dilemma game where neither wants to nudge each other too much when they can both walk away with a guy. That's all fun and games until a team like the giants or padres becomes serious and the approach may have turned off the player. So ultimately I just hope our initial offer is the passan one. I think teams can justify finding $200 mill for a 26 year old, but I think it does hit a point where it required previous planning around 250 pretty quickly.

No, not at all, I don't know it would be resolved. I just would feel more comfortable if sox had set themselves up with more room against the rest of the market. They may have! Just shooting the breeze since we have had no real info since early december.

This is probably true! I hope sox are sitting at 8 for 250! We have no idea though and if they are truly sitting at a base of 7 for 175 with some swellopt I'd rather they have upped the base. I'd have zero problem with the commitment of 8 for 250 with an opt-out at year 5 that can be triggered if sox don't pick up an option for an additional 2 years 60 million or something like that, and that's a 10 year 310 deal and everyone's happy.