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QUOTE(Frankensteiner @ Nov 1, 2005 -> 03:46 PM) Yeah, I thought that too. Then I realized how pissed I'd be when Dunn strikes out swinging with a runner on 3rd and less than 2 outs because he's trying to jack the ball out of the park. No thanks, at least not for the #1 playoff starter of a World Series winning team. That's part of the reason he bugs me as well. He hits around .200 with both risp and risp and 2 outs. If he's the big bat in the middle of the lineup well one of these years he's going to have to drive in big runs in big situations. The walks are nice but you also need your middle of the order hitters to well..drive in important runs. Also he hits .220 against lefties...so basically we're trading maybe our best pitcher for a guy that can't hit lhp, no thanks.

QUOTE(Felix @ Nov 1, 2005 -> 03:41 PM) According to numbers, he's the worst, and has been for awhile now. You said he should have won it in your original post. EDIT: Ok, I see what you meant, the way you had it worded just confused me.

QUOTE(Felix @ Nov 1, 2005 -> 03:37 PM) AJ has no shot. Uribe has no shot since they already said Jeter won it (although he should have won it). Crede is extremely unlikely because A-Rod plays in New York. And Buehrle/Garland likely won't win it, but should. I think Rowand will win one though. Jeter is probably the 4th best defensive ss in the al.

QUOTE(iWiN4PreP @ Nov 1, 2005 -> 03:35 PM) . bah i hate that. After watching a season like that and them not getting some recognition, it sucks . Id at least like to see rowand get it, but also IMO buehrle and crede are well-deservant in it. The others mayb im being a bit biased on. AJ doesnt throw out enough runners to get a gold glove though he obviously calls an awesome game. Joe is almost there but not quite up there yet, he looked like he had a shot but then had a stretch of games that bumped him down just below gg status imo. You can make a good argument for Juan, Aaron, Mark, and Jon imo but none of them are going to win them so oh well.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Nov 1, 2005 -> 09:56 AM) If only the Brewers kept Pods, then they would have won the WS Amazing the ex-player bashing that goes on. I figured since Lee didn't leave via free agency, there would have been less venom :headshake I can't wait to find out what a greedy bastard Konerko is and how it will suck for him in LA, NY, or elsewhere You do know Maggs leaving for more money is not the reason a lot of us hate his guts?

Aaron is the only one with a chance, I'd still bet on him not getting one.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Nov 1, 2005 -> 02:56 PM) I'll never understand why people are so down on Dunn. I don't give a s*** if he strikes out 170 times as long as he hits 40/100 walks 100 times with a .920+ OPS Cause he hits under .250, that's why I personally don't like the guy that much.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Nov 1, 2005 -> 11:03 AM) No...I want to make one thing clear and I think this is how KW feels. The 5 man rotation is off limits (Garland, Buehrle, Garcia, Contreras, and Bmac). The Sox got here with pitching and they aren't about to give it up. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

QUOTE(qwerty @ Nov 1, 2005 -> 12:52 AM) I hate loogy's. If you cannot get a right hander out i do not want you on my team. If he was the last man in the pen ( extra inning game) the game would be over once he enters. Right handers absolutely obliterate him. You don't take into consideration ozzie's style of managing, whether you hate them or not Ozzie wants a loogy and he's managed like that both years he's been here. Myers would be an absolute perfect fit.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2005 @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 09:08 PM) Damnit, I was hoping everybody forgot that I said that. I didn't mean it. That was just my emotions talking. LOL, I did and I was just real bored a few nights ago and was just surfing the site looking at random game threads and there it was.

QUOTE(SnB @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 11:51 PM) when kevin walker came in during a close game in like the 8th or 9th in 1 game. That was not funny.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 11:32 PM) http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2209832 "Boston reliever Mike Myers also filed for free agency. The left-hander was 3-1 last season with a 3.13 ERA in 65 appearances spanning 37 1/3 innings." Trade Marte for offensive help and sign Myers! Myers has become a guy I really want, he's so perfect for Ozzie's managerial style.

I'll add another: What about when Pablo swung at a pitch after it was already in the catchers glove on a hit and run.

When JC nailed Craig Monroe in the cup with a fork ball.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 10:57 PM) That doesn't make it right. Also the Michigan baksetball program got what they deserved. However this has never happened for the football program. Coach Carr runs a clean program. OSU doesn't. In fact most of Michigan's players are high character players who do a ton of stuff for Ann Arbor outside of football. A lot of OSU players have acted like thugs who should be punished more severly/ I don't think there is such thing as "clean" program on that level. Coach Carr just hasn't got caught yet.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 10:59 PM) All I ask is for the White Sox to give him a good offer.... if he doesnt take it thats fine thanks for helping us win the WS and good luck to you.... He'll get a good offer: 4 yrs 48 and I think Kenny would even go 4 yrs 52. The problem is going to be that 5th year I think. I dont think Kenny will go 5 and I think the Angels might.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 10:48 PM) And what if he decides he wants those last few million? I just hope we don't d*ck around with Paulie and try to offer him something crazy like money deferred to 2030. At some point, the difference between a $48 million contract and a $50 million contract isn't nearly as important as keeping the guy. Hopefully he'll be nice enough to give us the chance to match any other offer he receives, and if it is a sensible offer and not something obscene like Ordonez's deal, we should immediately match. I've always wanted to know this but if your Paul Konerko what the hell is the difference between 48 and 50 million dollars?

QUOTE(fathom @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 08:23 PM) A man with Frank's size doesn't just drastically recover from two major injuries like that to be 100 pct. He even talked this season about how he could barely run, and how much it hurt him. I think we're fooling ourselves to think he can be as healthy as a 25 year old player. If KW brings him back next season, he better have a contingency plan if Thomas gets hurt again. And he will, I guarantee it. If Frank is back there will be a backup plan in place.

QUOTE(WinninUgly @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 07:37 PM) What is the possibility of Dye and Anderson splitting time between RF and DH? Not very good.

Meh, they might have just got that out of his speech at the parade, who knows. None of this stuff means anything to me until he signs here or somewhere else. Hopefully here.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 07:21 PM) I agree with you that the rotation will be that, but I'm not sure I'm thrilled about it, for this reason: Jose Contreras in 2006 as far as I know will be in the final year of his contract. Depending on how you count the money the Yankees sent us, he's being paid something like $6-$7 million. Right now, he looks like #1 starter material, after a nearly Cy Young worthy 2nd half. If he puts up those exact same numbers in 2006, there isn't a chance in Hell we'll be able to resign him. Not without spending an absolute fortune. On the other hand, if he can't put up numbers like he did in the 2nd half...well, we probably won't want him anyway at that point. Contreras's value is almost at its peak right now...the only way it could go higher is if he comes out and continues dominating in the first few months next year. If we could sign him to some sort of an extension it might be a good idea...but here's the question...do you want to let him walk at the end of 06 when right now he could be dealt for an all-star caliber player? I don't know if I have a good answer myself. Btw, does anyone know what Buehrle's contract status at the end of 06 is? He's got a team option for 07. 9.5 million I believe. Not sure about the exact dollars on the option.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 07:15 PM) Teixeira's a Bora$$ client don't forget now Jason. Tracy or Overbay more likely I'd say. Jim Thome the wildcard. Am I invited to the party if we trade for Tracy?

QUOTE(Texsox @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 06:16 PM) Cominsky This should be an automatic ban.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 06:09 PM) And then again it can be severely underrated. Look at the Los Angeles Dodgers. I wonder if Paul DePodesta if he ever gets another GM position, is going to have team chemistry a little bit higher up on his mind next time. You have to play on a team with great chemistry to really know how much it can help with some players and teams.

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 05:57 PM) Seriously though, some people's love for Joe Crede is confusing. Nice avatar. :rolly Joe's a damn solid player, he's no superstar but he was huge for this team when it counted.