Rowand44

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 10:59 PM) All I ask is for the White Sox to give him a good offer.... if he doesnt take it thats fine thanks for helping us win the WS and good luck to you.... He'll get a good offer: 4 yrs 48 and I think Kenny would even go 4 yrs 52. The problem is going to be that 5th year I think. I dont think Kenny will go 5 and I think the Angels might.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 10:48 PM) And what if he decides he wants those last few million? I just hope we don't d*ck around with Paulie and try to offer him something crazy like money deferred to 2030. At some point, the difference between a $48 million contract and a $50 million contract isn't nearly as important as keeping the guy. Hopefully he'll be nice enough to give us the chance to match any other offer he receives, and if it is a sensible offer and not something obscene like Ordonez's deal, we should immediately match. I've always wanted to know this but if your Paul Konerko what the hell is the difference between 48 and 50 million dollars?

QUOTE(fathom @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 08:23 PM) A man with Frank's size doesn't just drastically recover from two major injuries like that to be 100 pct. He even talked this season about how he could barely run, and how much it hurt him. I think we're fooling ourselves to think he can be as healthy as a 25 year old player. If KW brings him back next season, he better have a contingency plan if Thomas gets hurt again. And he will, I guarantee it. If Frank is back there will be a backup plan in place.

QUOTE(WinninUgly @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 07:37 PM) What is the possibility of Dye and Anderson splitting time between RF and DH? Not very good.

Meh, they might have just got that out of his speech at the parade, who knows. None of this stuff means anything to me until he signs here or somewhere else. Hopefully here.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 07:21 PM) I agree with you that the rotation will be that, but I'm not sure I'm thrilled about it, for this reason: Jose Contreras in 2006 as far as I know will be in the final year of his contract. Depending on how you count the money the Yankees sent us, he's being paid something like $6-$7 million. Right now, he looks like #1 starter material, after a nearly Cy Young worthy 2nd half. If he puts up those exact same numbers in 2006, there isn't a chance in Hell we'll be able to resign him. Not without spending an absolute fortune. On the other hand, if he can't put up numbers like he did in the 2nd half...well, we probably won't want him anyway at that point. Contreras's value is almost at its peak right now...the only way it could go higher is if he comes out and continues dominating in the first few months next year. If we could sign him to some sort of an extension it might be a good idea...but here's the question...do you want to let him walk at the end of 06 when right now he could be dealt for an all-star caliber player? I don't know if I have a good answer myself. Btw, does anyone know what Buehrle's contract status at the end of 06 is? He's got a team option for 07. 9.5 million I believe. Not sure about the exact dollars on the option.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 07:15 PM) Teixeira's a Bora$$ client don't forget now Jason. Tracy or Overbay more likely I'd say. Jim Thome the wildcard. Am I invited to the party if we trade for Tracy?

QUOTE(Texsox @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 06:16 PM) Cominsky This should be an automatic ban.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 06:09 PM) And then again it can be severely underrated. Look at the Los Angeles Dodgers. I wonder if Paul DePodesta if he ever gets another GM position, is going to have team chemistry a little bit higher up on his mind next time. You have to play on a team with great chemistry to really know how much it can help with some players and teams.

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 05:57 PM) Seriously though, some people's love for Joe Crede is confusing. Nice avatar. :rolly Joe's a damn solid player, he's no superstar but he was huge for this team when it counted.

QUOTE(DePloderer @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 05:53 PM) If you want it.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2005 @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 02:41 PM) I'm guilty of doubting this whole team. I'm ashamed of myself for being so negative during the tailspin in September. I'm just glad they made a fool out of me in the end. I remember someone said that he didn't even want the sox to make the playoffs at one point.

QUOTE(SnB @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 04:44 PM) The Snb and greasy show will never be matched. That show pretty much sucked, not gonna lie.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 03:07 PM) Zoom no offense.... even though Randar can be a jackass sometimes he is one of the most knowledgable people when it comes to the minors for the White Sox and Rowand was really lousy this season..... For people that have actually seen Anderson they know he is a better defensive CF too.... Anderson isn't a better defensive cf then Aaron. Brian's good but he's not better, anyways if a trade came along where we could get a big bat with Aaron being the centerpiece I'd definitely do it and let Brian play CF.

QUOTE(Steff @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 02:39 PM) Perhaps he'll want to play with a team with some recient post season success... Astros?

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 02:29 PM) I'm sorry, but even a very reduced salary for Carl just is still going to wind up being like 5-10 times what Anderson or Borchard would make for the same role. And with at least Anderson being a better defensive replacement, I just can't see that making business sense. We're talking about being a dh though. I still think Brian is starting in center here next year or someone else just don't see him back in aaa and I definitely don't see him as a backup. We'll see what happens, I'm just saying it wouldnt completely surprise me if Carl was back next year.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 02:24 PM) I think we have plenty of backup plans available as minor leaguers, whether it be Joe Borchard, Brian Anderson, or one of the speedy guys. Once again if Frank is brought back with his health concerns I highly doubt that Kenny relies on Anderson or Borch to be a fulltime dh if something happened to big Frank. We'll see but I'm just saying it wouldn't surprise me to see Carl kept as a bench player and the backup plan to Frank just in case for a very reduced salary.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 02:21 PM) I have to disagree there. I honestly think Carl's done here, whether Frank's back or not. Thank you for your services though Jurassic. You certainly did your part in getting us that ring. Well, if Frank is brought back Kenny is going to have a backup plan as well, it might not be Carl but it wouldn't surprise me if it was.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 02:16 PM) Is there anyone on here who believes that Carl Everett will be a White Sox next year? My best guess is that his situation depends on the Frank situation. If Frank is brought back I believe Carl will be as well.

Kap, ban yourself for making this thread.

QUOTE(Wedge @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 10:35 AM) What about bringing in Cal Eldred for help in the bullpen as middle/long relief and mop-up duty? He pitched pretty well for the Cardinals last season. I think the duke is going to be our long man in 06. I expect our bullpen to look something like: Bobby, Neal, Cliff, Dustin, Duke, Myers/Eyre, then maybe Viz.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Oct 30, 2005 -> 07:26 PM) Contreras This thread shows just how reactionary people can be. That thread is pretty damn funny.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Oct 30, 2005 -> 11:30 PM) the tribe I think. Correct.

QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Oct 30, 2005 -> 03:54 PM) It's comments like these that drive me bananas. Yes, there is luck involved when you are a pitcher. But whether a hit ball or not becomes an out is often due to the pitcher hitting his spots and setting up the hitter. Sometimes hitters hit good pitches hard or they bloop them for a base hit, but hitting the proper part of the strike zone and keeping hitter's guessing accounts for more than pure luck. Anyone that doesn't get this, just doesn't understand baseball. Or at least hasn't pitched. I'm sure he was generalizing there, but let's not be afraid to give the pitcher a little credit when ratios improve. Strikeouts and walks are not the only part of an at bat a pitcher controls.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Oct 30, 2005 -> 03:28 PM) I'm smelling tie. ^