Rowand44

No, no he's not.

I disagree, the guy batted .322 last year, the problem is his obp was .335. I'm not sure if he finished with the most bunts hit this year but he was leading that category for most of the year, he's one of the best bunters I've ever seen. If someone could teach this guy to be a little more patient he'd be one hell of a leadoff hitter, imo.

Damn, that guy is a pest, he can hit, he can run, he can bunt, problem is he can't walk. I'd absolutely love to get this guy though, damn that got me excited, what an addition he'd be.

:headshake :banghead

I definitely think they're going to move Pauly before carlos. I got a question for you jas, if carl got back in shape do you think he's capable of playing right field?? I mean he was fat and slow last year, if he sheds some pounds and comes to camp in shape do you think he's capable of playing the outfield??

Another guy I think will have a big year for the sox . Anyways I think it's smarter to hold on to Jose anyways, because of his contract and his down year I don't think his trade value is that high and it would be better for the sox to hold onto him, jmo.

I honestly believe Carl is going to come to camp in shape and have a huge year for us. I think he can be that power lefty bat in our lineup for this year. So I'd kind of like to see how Carl comes to camp but I still wouldn't mind shawn. The obvious plus with green over carl is the defensive abilities of the two.

Having Kendall and Vizquel at the top of the order would be something special. All these rumors are making my head spin.

^^Yeah, that^^

I like the idea of Dye, I love the idea of Pavano . I hate the idea of Ortiz.

Stats for Wes this year: In Kanny: 4 and 1, 3.38 era, 45.1 ip's, 52 hits, 11 walks, 28 k's. Hitting in Kanny: .289 ba, .308 obp, .421 slugging, 11 hits, 1 homer, 5 rbi's, 7 k's, 1 walk in 38 ab's. For Winston Salem: 2 and 1, 3.38 era, 26.2 ip's, 17 hits, 7 walks and 13 k's. All this from baseball america.

Complements of Uclabruins.com Class: Junior Hometown: Noblesville, IN High School: Noblesville HS Height / Weight: 6-5 / 237 Position: P/1B Birthdate: 04/07/1983 Experience: 2V Bats/Throws: L/L Overview — One of the Bruins’ top offensive threats ... Will start at first base, when not on the mound ... “We really are counting on Wes this season,” said Head Coach Gary Adams. “He will hit in the middle of our order and is capable of hitting the ball out of any ballpark in America.” ... Looks to be in the weekend rotation ... The Bruins’ premier left-handed starter ... “Wes is one of our best pitchers and we expect he can give us six to nine innings every time he goes out,” said Adams. 2003 (Summer) — Played for the Yarmouth-Dennis Red Sox of the Cape Cod League ... Posted a 2.63 ERA in 13.2 innings of work ... Also hit .167 with 13 RBI and a home run. 2003 — Only Bruin to start all 59 games (15 as a pitcher/designated hitter and 45 at first base) ... Tops on the pitching staff with 15 starts on the mound ...Named to Baseball America’s Preseason All-America First Team ... Also picked up second-team preseason All-America honors from Collegiate Baseball and the NCBWA ... Named collegiatebaseballinsider.com Third Team All-American ... First Team All Pac-10 selection ... Hit .310 with nine home runs ... Led UCLA with 70 hits ... Tops among Bruins with 21 multiple hit games ... Also posted 10 multiple RBI games ... Named to the All-tournament team at the Dominos Pizza Aggie Baseball Classic after driving in three runs on five hits in the six games ... Exploded at the Kia Baseball Bash leading UCLA to wins over defending national champion Texas and nationally-ranked Tulane ... Was 3-for-5 against the Longhorns with a home run and three runs ... Went 2-for-4 against the Green Wave with three RBI and another homer ... Honored as the Kia Baseball Bash’s Co-Outstanding Player ... Put together an eight-game hitting streak from March 29 - April 12, highlighted by a 3-for-4 performance against Arizona on March 30 ... Posted his fourth career multiple home run game on May 18 at Stanford, driving in three runs ... Drove in a season-high four runs against Washington State on May 23, going 3-for-4 with three runs and a double ... Finished the season on an eight-game hitting streak ... Did not commit an error during Pac-10 play (118 chances) ... Posted a 5.66 ERA, lowest among the Bruin weekend starters ... Threw a team-high 82.2 innings with 53 strikeouts ... Ranked sixth in the conference with 50.1 innings of Pac-10 action ... Also was tied for ninth in the Pac-10 with 31 conference strike-outs ... Dealt a six inning complete game shutout against Utah on February 23 to pick up his first win of 2003, allowing only two hits in the outing ... Notched his second win of the season against crosstown rival USC, throwing six innings and allowing one run on five hits ... Was impressive on March 29 against Arizona, lasting seven innings and giving up only two hits, without allowing an earned run ... Hurled nine innings in back-to-back outings in May ... Threw a complete game on May 10 against Washington, striking out a career-high nine batters ... On May 17, threw nine innings against Stanford to push the game into extra innings and help lift the Bruins to a victory. 2002 (Summer) - Named top-prospect from the Cape Cod League by Baseball America after playing for the Yarmouth-Dennis Red Sox ... Also named to Baseball America’s Summer All-America team as a designated hitter ... Hit .309, which ranked fourth in the league ... Recorded 38 hits, including seven doubles and six home runs ... Did not pitch for the Red Sox. 2002— Appeared in 56 games, starting 53 ... Split time at first base, designated hitter and as a weekend starter ... Named Pac-10 Freshman of the Year ... Baseball America and Collegiate Baseball All-Freshman selection ... Third-team All-American (Baseball America) ... Broke the UCLA freshman home run record with 18 ... Went 2-for-4, with first home run, 3 RBI and two runs against Loyola Marymount (Mar. 5) ... Posted first multi-home run game against Washington State (Apr. 26), going 2-for-3 with two home runs, three RBI and 2 runs ... Had best offensive performance in Bruins’ 9-4 win over Stanford (May 18), with two home runs, including a grand slam, two doubles and five RBI ... Earned Pac-10 Player of the Week honors after the Stanford series ... Put together an 11-game hit streak from Apr. 19 to May 10 ... Led the team with 15 multi-RBI games ... Also recorded 18 multi-hit games ... Moved into starting rotation at Tulane (Mar 3) ... Led the team with 4.06 ERA ... Posted a team-best 4-1 record in Pac-10 play with a 3.62 ERA ... Earned first win in first collegiate start at Hawaii-Hilo (Feb. 14) allowing no runs on three hits in seven innings ... Got off to a hot Pac-10 start allowing four earned runs in 22.1 innings ... Hurled first complete game at Oregon State (Apr. 20), earning the win after giving up only one run on four hits ... Helped lead the Bruins to a 9-4 win over the Cardinal (May 18), allowing only one earned run in six innings of work and striking out a career-high eight batters. Noblesville HS—Lettered four times each in baseball and basketball for coaches Dennis Kos and Dave McCollough, respectively … Second-team All-American and first-team all-state selections capped off stellar year … Was named “Mr. Baseball” Indiana … Hit .440 with 15 homers and 35 RBI in 2001 … Ranks second in Indiana prep baseball history with 41 career home runs … Set state single-season RBI record with 49 and hit .469 as a freshman … Named all-conference, all-area, and all-county each of his four seasons … Also collected Indianapolis Star Most Valuable Player award … Hit .390 with 10 home runs in junior season, and was named to the U.S. team at the Pan American Games … Hit .400 as a sophomore with nine homers and 28 RBI … Had a career pitching record of 12-2 with a 1.40 ERA … Earned team awards as Most Valuable Player, Offensive Player of the Year … Registered career basketball averages of 13.5 points and 6.5 rebounds per contest as a forward. Personal—Full name: Wesley Guy Whisler … Born on April 7, 1983 in Indianapolis … Parents are Mike and Kristie Whisler … Has one brother, Brandon … Loves the competition and has a profound love of the game. ----------------------------------------------------------- Also just to add, he was a 2nd round pick this year(53rd) overall. He's got a pretty low mileage arm and from what I've heard he has great mechanics and some people have even compared him to Mark Prior mechanically. While he was drafted to be a pitcher down the road he also hit while he wasn't pitching this year. All you minor league experts feel free to add anything. Also, sorry it took me so long to post this, I've been pretty busy as of late.

I remember, I tried searching for it and I couldn't find it.

I'm way to lazy to pull up the stats right now. It's been discussed before, I can't find the thread though. Ask wite I'm sure he can find it, I'm pretty sure he's the one who pulled up all the stats last time. Sorry for putting the burden on you wite.

Ditto.

Must you steal my thunder?? :headshake

I understand where you're coming from santo but the main difference between these two is Percival can pitch Koch can't and never was able to. Sure Troy has lost some velocity but he was absolutely dominate the 2nd half of the year, if the sox were able to sign him, I think the backend of our bullpen would be pretty dominate. I'd love to get troy but it obviously depends on how much money he's going to command.

Ace, just drop it man, no need to make the mods have to seperate this thread.

Sorry about that 2k, I'll stop.

That would be the hard part for me too. The physical stuff would be easy but convincing yourself to eat that should would be pretty damn hard, I'd have to actually be put in that situation to see if I could do it, I can't say for sure whether I'd be able to do it or not.

Beat ya to it willie.

So which is it, first you say it's easier then you say it's not easier. Don't go telling other people to grow up when you're so blinded by your red sox bias it's disgusting.

I disagree, he was better then most 4th starters this year and even comparable to some 3 starters.

Very true but Jon's been in the majors for quite a while now, I was almost positive he was going to get to that 15 to 18 win mark this year and instead of improving he took a step backwards. I'd also like to keep jon but to get a pitcher the caliber of Rj, cya JG.