Hangar18

Tailgate this past Saturday was Excellent, met lots more new SOX fans ........

Hey y'all. Just wanted to say HEY, heading out to SanDiego tomorrow morning, meeting up with fellow SOX fans in SD area tomorrow nite, then driving up to LA for the Sox vs. Halos. Throwing a tailgate Saturday Morning before the afternoon game. Friday AFTER THE GAME, I know some of us are heading to some sports bar corner of State College Blvd & Orangewood, its at the base of an office building, SW corner (see map) Stop by and meet fellow SOX FANS. This is a map of where we will be Saturday morning. That little pinkdot you see, with the black dot in the middle, thats actual entrance to get into the lot. They charge $15 bucks per car I think, but your free to drink and tailgate

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Feb 16, 2007 -> 08:09 PM) That Cubs hat is just hideous. The Cubs hat ..............ecchhhhhhhhhhhh. reminds me of a highschool teams hat. Same with the Black Jays.

QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ Feb 14, 2007 -> 06:49 AM) Zito has a Cy Young and more playoff experience. That gives him more leverage in $$$. ahhhhhh, Not so fast cowboy. This is how the media thinks. lets not forget some IMPORTANT facts here. Zito has a Cy Young because everyone knows a teams Winning Pct usually is the determining factor. Zambozo plays for the Cubs. Advantage ZITO. Zito has more playoff experience because he plays for the A's, a consistently good team. Zambozo plays for the Cubs .... a Consistently BAD team. Advantage ZITO. So ........ If Big 'Bozo were on another team, he would've easily had a couple of Cy Youngs by now, and alot more Playoff appearances. Zambozo is a better pitcher in my eyes. If Zito = 7 years - $126 Million than Zambozo = 7 years - $150 Million. If Big 'Bozo takes less, hes a CHUMP. Its not his fault right now that hes a Cub, but this is the time where he can step up and 1: Be Paid what hes worth OR 2: Leave so he can finally win some Cy Youngs and Playoff Games. We'll see whats more important to him ......... Free Drinks in Wrigleyville & Big Money or a World Series appearance

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Feb 13, 2007 -> 06:38 AM) And Jim Hendry, well you dug your own grave with this one, so enjoy the consequences. HAHAHHHAHAA. Yup Hangar predicted this on another site a few months ago, was told he was a heretic, that Zambozo would not ask for more money, how could he/not worth it, I said he will want at LEAST $100 Million Plus People laughed said no, Hangar said with Jim Spendry spending like he is, Big 'bozo will want to GET PAID, and I couldnt wait for him to come out and say it ..... Big Bozo ............."PAY ME!" And you know what? He most definitely DESERVES $150 Million easily.

QUOTE(joeynach @ Jan 23, 2007 -> 12:54 PM) It boggles my mind why they think limiting their broadcasts to Directv only subscribers which is only like 5 or 10 million out of 300 Mil in this country anyway is a good thing. Yes they will get a lump sum of cash but they are making it more difficult to view MLB games for tens of millions across the country, why would they want to do that. Why would they want to limit their exposure to so many fans. Any common sense will tell you this would hurt them in the long run. The League of Extraordinarily Dumb Gentleman hard at work again I see .........

QUOTE(tony72 @ Feb 2, 2007 -> 11:14 AM) Punchinello's on 31st.. only prob with Punchinellos, is that it doesnt make sense for those getting off the L at 35th. nobody will walk to 31st, have a beer, then walk all the way back for the game.

QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Feb 2, 2007 -> 11:22 AM) From what I remember last year there was talk of doing our own patio party but the mods knew with the minimum required to make it worthwhile for the Sox, we wouldn't have enough. I was at COTC this year for the first time--the A's game which was Frank's first back at the Cell. You know, the one with the squirrel, LOL? I have no problem with them or what the event is called. We're all in the same boat. Or, as Al Sharpton said on TV last night: "Since we're all in the same ark let's try not to crap on the floor." You only need 20 to start your own party, not quite sure why we Couldnt get it off the ground last year, but since last summer, this board has grown quite a bit. This board can EASILY do their own now if we want. Just say the word GO and we can do it ........ I already have that same FORM downloaded, and we simply need to pick a Date. Ive been to a couple of these "Core" events, and there was a bit of uneasiness at one of the Core events. Not worth re-hashing all over again, but when I was a member of that other board, I do remember feeling uneasy about things, and wondering why we couldnt all get along. We're all Sox fans

I know ............ I cant tell you how much of SHOCK its going to be for me, when that place isnt there anymore. Its easily been years and years that its my pre-game ritual, walk by, say hello, grab a beer, and when the games got more crowded, meet up with whomever, grab a beer, and walk in to the park. I still think that its ridiculous that Jimbos is the closest bar to the ballpark ......... there really needs to be a couple places added across the street I also love the fact that when former SOX pre-game host Dave Wills is in town, he makes sure to stop in and say hello too

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Feb 2, 2007 -> 08:11 AM) That doesn't make any less petty. Why would you be so insecure as to care about what the event is called? That is the part I don't get. I think this stemmed from a party a couple of years ago, someone from the SOX made mention that "nobody" from this board bothered to show up, but I think a couple people here were there (I remember seeing a couple) I think the SOX (no fault on their part) think that this board doesnt participate. Didnt we try to do a patio party last year, and couldnt get anyone to commit?

Im going to see about WHERE this could take place, hopefully right by the park before the game, maybe an Afternoon contest. I'll have someone else contact the other site once we can finalize this. Id love to see a 20-3 pounding, heh heh!

QUOTE(shipps @ Jan 30, 2007 -> 03:16 AM) Dude,Crede certainly has gold glove caliber defense.Just because he hasnt won one doesnt mean anything especially with that award.And as far as Fields being athletic enough is not the question, its just a matter of having the natural ability which Joe has. Tell me about it. During the playoffs/WS in 05, stupid National Media kept being surprised at how "good" Joe Crede was. I kept saying to myself "yeah idiots, if you would've paid more attention to the Winning Team around here, you wouldnt have missed the Crede boat"

Who is in, so far I have 4 (counting me) already committed ....

QUOTE(Vance Law @ Jan 30, 2007 -> 12:35 PM) More aging left-handed outfielders, this one with with no power or speed or ability to play centerfield and with injury issues to their feet? And who already asked for too much money .... Hmmmmmmmmmmm, Let me dial Jim Hendry here really quick .....

QUOTE(Steff @ Jan 29, 2007 -> 05:52 PM) To speak on this matter it might have been nice if you at least tried to get a ticket yourself rather than relying on others and could speak first hand. Not one person we know that called TM the morning they went on sale didn't get tickets. Calling 3 hours later and then b****ing because you didn't get any to too damn bad. I even commented on how it would likely sell out as fast as the hotel rooms. Brooks came over and wasn't there 12 seconds and you were b****ing at him. For what they had to work with and the time to prepare, ONE year versus THIRTEEN at the Hyatt, things were pretty damn good. Hmmmm, you seem to forget that when he point blank asked me what I thought, I told him there was too much confusion, "but thats probably the fact that were in a new place-just the growing pains". Im the one that said that. He agreed. Everything was good natured ....... I wasnt going to lie and say it was the Best SoxFest ever, and I loved how they there were 4 separate floors for the sessions, etc. Again, everything was good natured. How I got my ticket is insignificant. I know plenty of people that wanted to go but couldnt get tickets and thats who I was speaking for ......

QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Jan 29, 2007 -> 04:44 PM) Great to hear they got it right after last year's embarassment. Question: do you think it was simply that they're on the ball again, or that all the bandwagon jumpers fell off after '06, LOL? Or both? Actually, there was a lot of confusion as to what was going on and where. Garage sale, things last year that were $10, now were $20. My impression was that the place was TOO SMALL to host a SOX CONVENTION. Too much walking up and down stairs (thats because the bank of elevators wasnt adequate to shuttle this many people around) People got tired of waiting and started using the Stairwells, which were clearly not meant to be used. I still think it was pretty crowded, only because the space they were using was just not adequate. The overall mood of the fest was very subdued, ala 1998. I didnt like that. I dont miss the crowds from last year, but to tell you the truth, that was to be expected. The SOX just didnt staff last year correctly ..... Some lines gave out wristbands for autograph lines, others didnt. Some people told me they had no idea Konerko wristbands were given out hours before ............ I know that this year was going to be a trial-run for this .......... but I do hope they get More Space, and sell more tickets, there were lots of people I know that wanted to go, but couldnt get tickets.

QUOTE(salty99 @ Jan 29, 2007 -> 03:43 PM) ....... I can't remember what you were telling your buddy at the Comcast booth. hey man, why didnt you say hello?

QUOTE(salty99 @ Jan 29, 2007 -> 01:28 PM) I had a good time, better than last year. Hangar was that you with the UCLA Jerry Owens jersey? YEAH! That was me. I walked up and he was first at the table, I put my bag down and smiled and told him he was going to trip when I showed him what I was going to have him sign, He says "oh yeah?" and sits back very curious. I pulled out his game worn UCLA football jersey and he was shocked for a second and started laughing, asking me how the heck I got his jersey. I told him I tried it on and there was no way I could fit in it, how in the world did he fit in it? Everyone laughed, including Ryan Sweeney who checked out the jersey. A photographer came up to us and took pictures of Owens admiring his old jersey, Owens was really stoked to see that and signed it for me. The photog asked my name and how I got the jersey, laughing at the reaction Owens gave and stopping the line for a bit. I was hoping they'd use the pic, but they didnt

QUOTE(103 mph screwball @ Jan 29, 2007 -> 11:59 AM) Perhaps you are right. ...... He has a well thought out argument specifically quoting the offending articles. If every Sox fan is required to have a media persecution complex, what originated that complex? Media persecution? .........what came first, The Chicken or The Egg. What is basically happening, if the SOX DONT say anything, the Media will come to their own conclusions. Its a vicious circle, the SOX are going to have to get used to trying to give out info when they can. If Kenny clams up, the Media will come up with a story no matter what, I say its best to talk with them ......

QUOTE(Steff @ Jan 29, 2007 -> 09:03 AM) H, you were sitting right next to me when it was confirmed that this was not a media creation from the horses father's mouth. Yes. But if you remember, I also said that if it gets leaked out, it always looks worse because the media can paint it anyway they like ........

QUOTE(spiderman @ Jan 29, 2007 -> 09:04 AM) I don't blame the media for this at all - they simply reported what Williams has said about Buerhle's free agent status next season. Kenny can try and downplay what he said, blame the media for overhyping it, but he said what he said. After this weekend, I can clearly see how there is 3 sides to a story ...... KW might be a bit frustrated at discussions with Buehrle on a new contract, but at the same time he has to keep on keeping on, thats his job. I do see that if thinks its going nowhere, lets go ahead and prepare for the post-Buehrle era.

QUOTE(SEALgep @ Jan 28, 2007 -> 08:19 AM) I think this is making something out of nothing. I can say this for sure .......... after discussing this very topic ............ The media is a bit responsible for making things a bit worse than they might really be .......... HOWEVER, I made sure to point out ........... that the SOX have needed to be a bit more forthcoming not only to the Media, but to the Fans as well. SOX fans wont tolerate being treated as if we dont know whats going on, and unfortuneately only few in the Media here are aware of this fact. Let us come to our conclusions and let the chips fall where they may. This person agreed.

QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Jan 26, 2007 -> 12:50 PM) The thing I dread the most about Sox 2007 is that poor choices by Ozzie will cost us the five or so games that make the difference between us getting in the postseason and finishing as an also ran again this year. And if that's the case again, a change will definitely need to be made. Ugghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Ozzies slow-to-react style already pains me. It was immediately clear at one early in 06 that Jim Thome wasnt suited for the #3 spot (with Dye coming on the way he did) and it cost us. His stubborness also led to Rob Mackowiak being in CF game after painful game. It was clear his 3rd time out there that he WASNT a CenterFielder and his poor defense cost us a number of games.

QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Jan 26, 2007 -> 11:34 AM) I'll explain. 2004: Going into '04, I was totally stoked because they hired Ozzie, which I thought was a gutsy and very unconventional move. The season didn't turn out well, but hey: it's his first year. My beef was the feast-or-famine team, capable of scoring 13 runs one game and none the next. While I liked Maggs and C. Lee, if they weren't going yard we were sunk. Clutch hitting? What's that. Jose Valentin? [shudders] 2005: It was almost like KW read our minds. Enough of this Big Ball team! We're going smallball/Ozzieball/smartball. Sure the sportswriters dubbed this the experiment doomed to fail, but having been in Minneota's rearview mirror for how many years, why not follow their recipe? I was 100% behind this and not only was psyched about the season, but still can't believe it happened, to this day. Perfect. 2006: Well now that everybody and their cousin is apparently a Sox fan (geesh!), there was a certain sense of having what was "yours" now become "everybody's." That aside, we all felt that we were bound to repeat. The team, on paper, was even "better" than the 2005 team. Thome! Vasquez! So while there was a certain WS hangover, we were assured that we're in this to win, not to be one-and-done. Anticipating 2006: exciting. 2007: ? I don't know what I feel. I really can't predict with any certainty what I think we will do. Seeing that we pretty much have the core of the '06 team--that finished third--you certainly don't expect anything. Pods out, Anderson our do-or-die CF, WTH is going on with Uribe, etc. etc. And heading into this after a dismal second half of the '06 season which was so painful I stopped watching the last month. It just feels weird, that's all. Not saying we're in bad shape, just that I can't even tell you what shape we are in. Or am I crazy? Hey man, love your retrospect. Let me add to this though ..... 2004 - What really happened: Team offensively did well, but were much too streaky and couldnt Manufacture Runs to save themselves. Team also didnt help themselves with the Revolving Door 5th Starter. Bullpen was TERRIBLE, as the 2003 Bullpen was let go, and replaced with unknowns/wanna-be's/never were's. 2005 - What really happened. Team took a number of chances, and most of them were very calculated (Iguchi/Dye/AJ), one was outright CRAZY. Finally filling out the 5th Spot, it was destined the SOX would reap dividends. The bullpen was also shored up AGAIN from 2003 purge and it proved itself mightily. The biggest surprise? Scott Podsednik. Gave the SOX their 1st legitimate leadoff hitter/Speed Threat since RayDurham (and he wasnt really a leadoff hitter) They took a HUGE GAMBLE (I ripped the trade at the time) trading a .300/30HR hitter, for a .250 slap hitter. Easy to say, without Pods incredible 1st half (hasnt been the same since then however) the SOX wouldnt have had the incredible season from Tad Iguchi. 2006 - What really happened. Team went thru great pains to add another hitter, and try to make the offense a bit more powerful. Picking up Jim Thome (rather EXPENSIVE acquisition however) Having Mackowiak off the bench, and "trading" for Javier Vazquez, certainly made this team STRONGER ON PAPER. Heck, they even RE-SIGNED Paul Konerko and paid him handsomely. The SOX did everything right in the offseason and behaved like, well, a World Champion Ballclub. SOX FANS WERE GIDDY. SOXFEST was jampacked with fans. The SOX were the buzz of the town. They Sold Out 52 Games, including all of their season-ticket packages (I remember when the Media and another website claimed the SOX didnt have enough of a Fanbase, we'd always be 2nd fiddle in this town) The one thing Kenny overlooked? The bullpen. He rightly got rid of the 2 crutches on the team ..........lefty Marte and Vizcaino. In turn, he NEVER REPLACED their bad arms with Better ARms. This proved COSTLY as the other solid arms in the bullpen, Neil Cotts and Cliff Pollitte each took 6 steps backward, and the bullpen proved to be our downfall. 2007 - What will happen? I dont know ....... the SOX have seemingly begun setting themselves up for 2008 and beyond (The "heretic" Phil Rogers predicted), and most SOX fans arent all that happy that we may not be as good in 07. Some are happy that the 2 new pitchers from Texas may help us immensely in 08. We know one thing ........ Sox fans will be pulling for them no matter what ...

QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Jan 26, 2007 -> 10:50 AM) Remember ladies and gents, we'd like--please--a full recap of how it was, what sucked, what didn't, whom you met from the team, how the Ozzie/Hawk/Kenny thing went. AND: how you liked the new venue. I didn't go last year but geez after what you guys told me I am SO glad I didn't. You got it ......... look for reports late late late tonite!