SleepyWhiteSox

Big East vs. ACC would be interesting...

QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 22, 2005 -> 03:28 PM) As usual.. dips***

QUOTE(Winnin Ugly @ Jun 22, 2005 -> 03:25 PM) Steff- you must care if you called your dad about it lol...

eat s*** biatches?

Was there a gong intro?

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Jun 22, 2005 -> 12:35 AM) I never thought in my life I could actually use Doogie Howser in an argument, but it paid off. Paid off?

QUOTE(knightni @ Jun 22, 2005 -> 12:25 AM) No biggie. But, there was a difference. Just sayin'. Dem sound like fightin' words...

I agree completely, zoom.

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Jun 22, 2005 -> 12:14 AM) But to suggest that being a basketball player is on par with being a Dr is ridiculous. SB This from someone who used a doogie houser reference?

SB, When top talent went to college and then the NBA, it worked. Now, they don't, and the NBA is on a decline. The NBA must feel that college does the trick, and I tend to agree, so this is the rule they've come up with. What would your suggestion be to fix it, since you don't agree? Edit: And I'm curious about your thoughts on the NFL having a rule pertaining to age.

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 11:51 PM) Sleepywhitesox, Sorry I do not agree with if they get hurt tough luck. I think if the NBA is going to enforce an age limit, then they need to do something to make sure those players are protected in case of a career changing injury. What other line of work does that? If you lose your abilities to do some line of work BEFORE you started in it, you don't magically get compensated for what you could have done. Bad analogy alert: If I'm a math whiz and bump my head and lose my smarts before NASA hires me, they're not going to pay me for the job I could have done but can't do. QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 11:51 PM) And the reason I do not agree with this, is I do not believe that any arbitrary rule should ever be able to deny a person an opportunity that they wish to seek. SB They are employees of the NBA. Most employers have rules. The NBA just wants to make their product better, and they think this is a step in that direction. 2nd bad analogy alert: If I was smart enough to be a doctor and had great potential, I still wouldn't get hired straight out of high school because it would ruin the integrity and high standards of being a doctor and whatever association they're under. The point of that horrible analogy is that the NBA realizes the product is not as good as it can be so they are taking steps to implement rules to make it better. Players are employees of the NBA, and companies will sometimes implement rules to make their company better even if it seems slightly unfair to the individual employee. It does happen.

I still say quality of product is the bigger factor. While most all other sports seem to be evolving for the better as athletes are becoming stronger and more athletic, the NBA seems to be going down in quality... Fundamentals need to be stressed instead of relying on the raw athleticism of immature (basketball-wise, and, unfortunately, sometimes overall) high-schoolers. Everbody can dunk and cross-over, but nobody can play solid D or hit a jumper, it seems. Elite college coaches are probably the best at teaching these fundamentals, in my opinion... And by the way, "thug" basketball was around during the second 3-peat, but the Bulls were playing such great basketball that it didn't matter.

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 11:14 PM) It is not that I do not think there are benefits for raising the age, I just think those that benefit are the ones that need it the least. Will my life really be better if the NCAA and NBA have a little better competition? Do owners like Mark Cuban or Reinsdorf really need the extra insulation? NBA players are compensated EXTREMELY well, regardless of whether they go in at 18, 19, or 20. They will still end up making a s***load more than a vast majority of us ever will. Quite frankly, it is an opportunity of a lifetime. One of the sacrifices for living this sort of dream is abiding by the rules of the NBA. This is why I am very hesitant to argue in favor of players. The fact of the matter is that players are treated like royalty in college. It's a great experience for them. We're not in a third-world country where anyone is in such dire need that they cannot sacrifice a couple of years earning a college education (which is a privilege for many) until they make their megamillions. And if they get hurt, tough luck. Worse things can happen to a person. You'll have the opportunity to fall back on a free education, if you choose to do so.

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 02:39 PM) The kids aren't the problem. I think they're a BIG part of it, hence my being glad that an adequate age limit has been set...

Why are you guys so concerned with dissecting stats and trying to come up with who you might think is most deserving??? That's certainly not what All-Star selections are always about, and since Buehrle and Garland have comparable stats to who many of you think deserves it, halladay, I say go with one of the guys on the best team in baseball. It's never very fair and balanced, and in a close selection I'm going with my team. We've lost out enough times when our guys seemed to be the more deserving...

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 03:43 PM) well, either way, sox are running away with it... i'll start a new topic anytime i want.

blue and gold (De La Salle) garnett and gold (FSU) blue and red (DePaul)

"Wait'll they get a load of me."

To me, the funniest part still is that you did it after a win over the royals, of all teams...

QUOTE(ChiSoxyGirl @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 10:26 PM) I saved up my bonus points from my debit card and cashed in my change jar (okay, okay, it's a piggy bank shaped like a baseball, but you know...) and bought a digital camera. I got a Canon A520. So far it's pretty good. Hooooooray!

Once I saw "rocket science," that was my cue to officially retire..

25 over and 8 up...Wow, hadn't realized that....

QUOTE(KevHead0881 @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 05:23 PM) Don't know how long it will last, but Viscaino has actually been throwing well as of late. Not long... :banghead

Kinda sad that Duncan was useless in the clutch and horry had to carry the team...

100-110 Players can't shoot anymore. :headshake