RockRaines

Read the title of the thread. Go bash Swish and Konerko somewhere else, this is a positive thread. If you have something positive to say, say it, otherwise dont hit the reply button. Got it?

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 28, 2008 -> 08:57 PM) I'm rarely ever this hard on one of our players, but he's an utter f***ing joke at the plate. This is for positive karma only

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 28, 2008 -> 07:28 PM) Since Konerko has come off the DL, Paulie is hitting a pathetic .218 coming into tonight. Swisher, during that same time period, is hitting .180. Yeah, he' still hitting alright. Ah, so since swish moved from 1B he is in a slump.....Good to know the team is better with Kong out, thanks for verifying that.

QUOTE (kwolf68 @ Jul 28, 2008 -> 07:27 PM) Whatever. Konerko brought us a world title. I know he sucks now, but without him we dont have a flag. Swisher didn't bring us crap except a depleted farm system. SO did Geoff Blum lets go get him. Stop living in the past, this Konerko is hitting for less power than OC.

Hoping to bring good karma to Paulie's bat and get his head out of his ass!!!

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 28, 2008 -> 08:22 PM) If Konerko needs to be benched, Swisher should be sitting next to him. Dirty thirty has been horrible. His glove has gone farther than any fair ball he's hit tonight. Swish is still hitting and getting on base better than Konerko.

Why is this thread even open. We have ZERO corner OF spots and ZERO DH spots. We are probably one of the worst fits for Manny in the league. Stop trying to put Konerko etc in a deal for a player that doesnt fit on our team.

QUOTE (quickman @ Jul 28, 2008 -> 04:08 PM) sorry Rock I will take Erin Andrews over her, in fact I would take some of the girls you used to have in your avatar over her. Oh trust me, I agree with you. I was trying to say she wasnt all that. In fact her pics out of her spandex and in normal clothes arent very good either.

Man, I f***ing hate that guy

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Jul 28, 2008 -> 04:10 PM) AJ's 2-seamer is better than Javy's as well. I disagree on that, they have fairly comparable 2-seemers. AJ throws his about 4-5 mph harder as well.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 28, 2008 -> 03:00 PM) I find it hard to believe that AJ Burnett has better stuff than Javy Vazquez. Perhaps my untrained eye is blinded by love and sickass movement, but I see 2 good fastballs, a good change, a good curve, and a good slider from Javy. Is AJ Burnett's stuff really that good? And along the same lines, even coming from Javy's biggest fan, stuff alone does not make a pitcher. I might very well prefer Contreras to Burnett. Perhaps potential rumors would light a fire under Jose's ass and he'll come out guns blazing. Aj has a better fastball, better curve, not nearly as good of a change.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 28, 2008 -> 02:45 PM) A 4.76 ERA this season seems to indicate he isn't on most nights. Right, about a run up from last season. His problem is that his fastball has such good movement that if he doesnt hit the corners, it drifts over the heart of the plate and gets hit hard. That seems to be a little bit of his problem this season. I actually see Gavin Floyd as being a younger Burnett without that crazy 2 seemer. Gavin has both the mid-90's fastball, great curve and good ancillary stuff, but lacks consistency.

There it is. I was waiting for it.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 28, 2008 -> 02:43 PM) Or maybe just maybe Contreras comes back with no elbow pain and pitches like he did through mid June when his ERA was under 3.00. Totally possible. Though his age and last season point to him being somewhere in between of the two stages of this year, while AJ Burnett has been putting up some solid seasons here for a few years and is younger. Though he is also a giant injury risk.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 28, 2008 -> 02:26 PM) Amazing how many people think this would be a great deal for the White Sox. The guy still would have to be paid a lot this year which to us is nothing, but, this year, his ERA and WHIP are higher than Jose Contreras. Soxtalk wanted to replace Contreras with Burnett in 2005, and thank God KW didn't agree. To be fair, Contreras's stats are influenced alot by his early run. AJ would be better than the COunt of late: June 6.83 ERA July 8.62 ERA. Or last year's 5.57 ERA . This is AJ's first season since 2003 with an ERA over 4.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Jul 28, 2008 -> 02:21 PM) Haven't seen those, but as long as they go in the right places it's all good. Meh, not as good a once was IMO.

Did someone post his stats yet, because thats the next step to trying to show Marte is dominant. Thats also the same reason people sign David Riske when fans in Cleveland and Chicago laugh. NYC will eat him alive once he blows a game. Nady is having a tough time already.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 28, 2008 -> 02:19 PM) its even funnier because, while he does have a great looking fastball, his breaking ball doesn't look anything near as good as Joba's splitter or K-Rod's slider (though it's a good pitch if he keeps it down). On top of that, Joba's fastball is way better too. He could have a big impact for the Cubs, but I don't see him doing anything monumental. It's his first go around the league and teams don't have any idea what he offers yet. His secondary stuff is mediocre. Check out his peripherals in the minors, how bout his K-rate compare to those two guys. Give me a break tribune company, Samadardizjai is not even K-rod lite.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 28, 2008 -> 03:19 PM) $13 million or more for a back of the rotation starter who while he has his moments is usually mediocre? I don't think JR would like you much. I was just editing my post, I didnt realize he was already making that much. The picks we would get for him would be better than Allen and Eggy IMO.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Jul 25, 2008 -> 10:15 AM) Allison Stokke. An olympian and the hottest woman in the world. Erin Andrews can't even sniff her panties, although I'd love to see her try Google that s***. Shes put on a few lbs in recent pics.

QUOTE (DBAH0 @ Jul 28, 2008 -> 01:45 PM) Apologies if posted somewhere else, but there was a deadline article, saying he thought we would get Burnett for Jack Egbert and Brandon Allen. Thoughts if that actually happened? Would you want A.J to opt out after this season? Thats a hell of a deal for us. And we could throw some money at him and make him our back of the rotation guy for the next couple of years. I like it.

Boone walked off the mound in Detroit and very clearly looked up and said thank you after his first good outing in awhile. I think he will be fine.

Wsise/BA in CF with Kong on the bench rules. Sorry Konerko but you are a black hole.

Basically a long post saying that Gavin has been good, but you dont think he's that good.

Moving Alexei to CF would be a gross misuse of his defensive skills. He is flashing gg caliber defense at 2B. I would keep him there for at least the near future, including next season.