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QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Feb 14, 2006 -> 09:42 AM) Arow is 6 feet, Neal Cotts is 6'2"-6'3" depending on where you look. Either way, Arow is a short dude and needs to be in the front row. AJ, Crede, Blum, Contreras, they are all around 6'4"-6'5", they definitely need to be in the back. Cotts isnt even close to 6'2". Have you ever met the guy? He is no taller than me and I am 6'

seriously, if anyone needs me to grab them some, PM me in the next 10 min.

QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Feb 14, 2006 -> 10:53 AM) No doubt. Just glad 27 of my games are lower. I have row 21 for opening day, in the UD. I know this, that ain't where I'll be sitting. I guess some of my buddies will find out where they lie on the totem pole. I had to grab UD opening day extras and 5 for the 2nd game. I will have to sell my 2 tix for one of those dates. I absolutley hate sitting in the UD after being in the LL all this time.

QUOTE(Allsox @ Feb 14, 2006 -> 10:36 AM) There is absolutely nothing wrong with Upper Deck Box either. People may grumble about not having lower level access but I couldn't care less. The beer is just as cold and the Polish is just as good up there as it is downstairs and the bathroom lines aren't as bad. Its not as good as sitting on the lower level.

opening night, all cubs games, boston, st louis, houston. Anyone else need some?

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Feb 14, 2006 -> 09:37 AM) you obviously didnt sense his sarcasm. nope, and im not the only one.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Feb 14, 2006 -> 09:30 AM) Rowand is pretty damn short, if you put him in the back row with Crede and Pierz he'd be covered by Dye or McCarthy. You have to put Aaron in the first row. Ok, but I will counter that with Cotts in the back row. He is about the same height as a-row. I just think its weird that Neal, AJ, Crede are all standing together in the back row, while their good friend Aaron is far away from them.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Feb 14, 2006 -> 08:38 AM) The 'Dutch oven' is sure to give the evening an international flare. Post of the month material right there.

QUOTE(klaus kinski @ Feb 14, 2006 -> 08:45 AM) At last it is upon us-and though it flew by, I'm excited about getting to know a team thats changed by 1/3 wow, your sig pic presents some interesting social questions. Look how far A-row is standing from his best friends on the team.

QUOTE(q\/\/3r+y @ Feb 14, 2006 -> 12:42 AM) I think you are just not very smart for not wanting to get rid of him. He sucks and pargo is better. You must have been dropped on your head as an infant i swear. Deng is so young its hard to gauge anything about him, but I do know that he may turn out to be the best player on this team. Comparing him to a lifetime bench player is pretty silly IMO. Pargo is lucky he has a team to play on.

QUOTE(CluelessJoe1919 @ Feb 14, 2006 -> 12:00 AM) I love Sweeney, but I doubt he's THAT good! Not yet, but when Dye's contract is up, thats their hope. Right now he needs some more pop in the bat, and to get a bit older.

QUOTE(CluelessJoe1919 @ Feb 13, 2006 -> 11:45 PM) That's what you pussies said last time...I'll be back under another name...And, hey, I can always find Jeckle at one of those Core of the Core of the Nerd nite. wow dude, why not come back and actually not be a total douche. Then maybe you would be the better man. Who knows?

QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Feb 13, 2006 -> 10:58 PM) Clueless is the same troll Rich McKinney.... Just to let you know... Sorry to out ya trolly but I just can't stand ya... One of the names I was thinking. Nice.

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Feb 13, 2006 -> 09:04 PM) How is it not rational? January 21st is the date that Skiles finally got his head out of his ass and stuck Chandler in the starting PF slot. Since then, he has been playing with confidence. January 21 was the turning point. Maybe you did not know that. And again, Tyson wreaking havoc on the boards is a bad thing. :headshake It obvious to me and many others that you cannot even be a bit subjective on the subject of your man-crush. Its ok, some people just arent capable of it. I will make sure to compare players only from the moment they "get confidence", because thats when the REAL season begins. Of course starting makes a huge difference in Tyson's performance. I mean last year he only had 10 starts, yet had more rebounds per game, blocks per game, points per game, and less turnovers. But yeah, he is improving , and now that he is starting (32 starts) he is a owning people. s*** from now on, lets just compare players' hot streaks to talk about how great they are. Joe Crede loves that idea, I know it. Good luck on the fan club. Have a nice day.

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Feb 13, 2006 -> 08:40 PM) In the end, it's pretty f***ing sad that I have to defend a BULL with this much potential. :headshake I show people Rebounds Per Minute figures, and it's a bad thing. Chandler owning motherf***ers is a bad thing. Who'd have thunk it? I love how leading in Rebounds per minute for a 2 week span is owning people.

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Feb 13, 2006 -> 08:24 PM) Here, I'll post this here as well for some of the gifted basketball minds amongst you who might not catch it in the NBA thread. Rock, how does it feel to be on the same level as White Sox Josh? You have established yourself as a pretty terrible poster today IMHO. Why the personal attack? Did your cherry picking of stats not satisfy you enough? I guess we should just ignore the rest of the season when comparing player's worth. I am a huge bulls fan, and I like Tyson. But you are now making outrageous claims. Based on your timeframe, Ben Gordon would be one of the most prolific scorers in the entire NBA. Does that mean he is a great player? No. Come back when you can present a rational argument. In case you are in need of a new avatar;

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Feb 13, 2006 -> 06:28 PM) So, you watched the game??? Then why did you say that Brand torched him? I don't know, man. You're kind of sounding like White Sox Josh all of a sudden. Will you get your story straight, please? And I think that qwerty said it best. Chandler is making b****es look stupid. Really, I think that says it all. "His only true skill is height". Since when is height a skill? If we're talking tools and intangibles, Chandler possesses all of these: quickness, height, wingspan, leaping ability, work ethic, mean streak, passion to win, etc. Combine all of those things. He has the makings of a defensive legend, or am I wrong? And I don't know if anyone has noticed, but Chandler has proven to be a pretty good passer. Anyway :rolly , I'll post some OREB and REB numbers in a little while. Not for you, obviously. Start watching some games, please. I understand that its hard for you to take an logical approach to your man-crush, as I have seen you flame out on the subject multiple times. Go ahead and post numbers all you want. His reb numbers are down from last year, his pts, his blocks, yeah hes a superstar. I loooove it when 2nd overall picks average single digits in all categories. Saying that his height was skill was sarcastic man, pick up on it. Lets talk about players with tools and intagibles huh? Lets forget all raw stats, and actual numbers. Please, you sound like a guy who is trying to rationalize his dog of a girlfriend to his buddies. But he has a wingspan, hes kinda mean, he hits his chest with his fist every time he dunks. Please. He is a dissapointment of a 2nd overall pick. He has no offensive skill whatsoever, yet we are trying to retionalize his talent by comparing "potential" or his numbers for the last 2 weeks. This season, he has started more games than ever before, yet all of his numbers have gone down. He's 17th in rebounds per game? Damn. Maybe you were just ignoring his 24 ranking in Def RPG with a stellar 5.6. I bet you were going to focus on his #7 ranking for ORPG, still isnt making many people look like fools on his "strength." But he must be "swattin" the ball away as defensive masters should right? I guess being 31st in blocks doesnt tell the whole story. The guy could be a good complimentary player, maybe a defensive specialist. But comparing him to Ben Wallace? Please. At this point in his career. It was a bad move to acquire him, and he is a dissapointment at the #2 guy selected in the draft. Go ahead and flame, get personal, whatever you think is neccessary to guard your man-crush from criticism. The facts are facts. If potential was what mattered most in sports, Joe Borchard would be the MVP.

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Feb 13, 2006 -> 12:40 PM) God damn man, did you even bother to watch this game??? Brand abused Songalia and Sweetney. When Chandler was on him, he couldn't do a god damn thing. If you're not going to watch these games, don't bother commenting on them. You're usually a better poster than this. Seriously, get your head out of your ass. Chandler played great. He was mostly on Kaman, but he switched over to Brand at times. Hahaha, you would think you are dating him or something. Yes I watched him, yes he played like he always does. Leaping and swinging his arms on defense, worthless on offense. He got into double digit rebounds well into the 4th quarter, wow, what a beast he is. He is an average player IMO, and will stay that way. He only true skill is that he was born with height. You want to evaluate him based on tools huh? Thats the most ridiculous thing I have heard. You know how many "players with potential" bow out of the NBA every year? Steve Nash was slated to have average potential, and now he is an MVP.

QUOTE(thedoctor @ Feb 13, 2006 -> 02:56 PM) fields was something to see. up until i saw bill walker a few months back he was far and away the best leaper i'd ever seen. Both Fields and KG dunked on me in HS. Fields was head and shoulders above KG in HS, he was the star on the team. His test scores were terrible and he wrecked his car, and now is abust. I also played again Maggette and I thought he would be in the NBA too. Oden is better.

QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Feb 13, 2006 -> 09:16 AM) id like to see him go with some kind of knuckleball pitch. Just think he could go from 50mph to 100mph. danger!! Maybe a floater as well? Just throw it underhand like in Rookie of the year. They have no chance!!!

QUOTE(CluelessJoe1919 @ Feb 13, 2006 -> 12:03 PM) There's no question that he hasn't cut it, yet. But, that has nothing to do with his approach to the game. Umm, his approach to the game is why he hasnt cut it yet. The guy has nothing but talent, and hasnt used it to his advantage.

QUOTE(Middle Buffalo @ Feb 13, 2006 -> 10:04 AM) Another difference is that in Vegas you pay up front. When you go through a bookie, you have credit. Lose enough and you can get seriously behind. When you are involved in sports, that opens the door to throwing games. I doubt that happened in this case, but that's the fear for league commisioners. I think it's time that it becomes a standard part of player contracts that they refrain from gambling (even legally) on sports and from any type of illegal gambling on cards, etc. You can use credit in any casino I have ever been in. I didnt know they are now cash-only?

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 13, 2006 -> 11:44 AM) I think that trade epitomized the last few years of our previous GM, who's name will not be spoken here so as to avoid further cursing. In fact, that trade and that draft say a lot about his work. When people criticize Pax for things like Drafting Gordon, I sometimes just sit here and think "Gordon, Deng, and Hinrich, or Curry, Chandler, and Fizer." Jay Williams wasn't exactly his fault, and Brand was a good but obvious pick, but man we missed some chances with those picks and trades. I wondered at the time of the trade why everyone was so down on Brand. One of the main critcism's is that he is only a 20-10 player. We wanted a star who could score 30 pts. But isnt 20-10 basically the ideal post man? Chandler is an ok player, blocks a few shots, gets a few boards. But the guy has NO offensive weapons, plays weak post defense against strong post players, and gets into foul trouble and has to be yanked. Pair that with his health questions, and he is a huge dissapointment.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Feb 13, 2006 -> 11:25 AM) I think you should have gotten it a while ago. We were emailed ours, however, our ticket rep has been awesome with us. You are supposed to get it tomorrow morning.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 13, 2006 -> 11:18 AM) Well, they probably should put up better than 3 points and 10 rebounds in 30+ minutes to be considered a beast, so you're right on that. Just don't take away from how well Brand has really been playing this year. Man it'd be nice to somehow have him in the middle with Chandler. Brand is the man. One of the worst trades we ever made.