RockRaines

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Dec 12, 2013 -> 03:52 PM) If shes ballooning now wait until shes nesting. Jettison the lunar module, bro. Awesome. Wait till she hits 30's and the weight has to be continuously worked on.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Dec 12, 2013 -> 04:05 PM) I gave him a chance against Detroit and he lied to me. I dont give second chances. Danny O'Brien says different. He said you gave a few chances.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Dec 12, 2013 -> 04:01 PM) Im fine with this reasoning, just dont say its because Cutler was injured. Its about your lack of faith in McCown and your belief that Cutler is better. I just think its irrational to keep a player X as a starter if you believe that player Y is better, just because player X happened to get injured and thats how you found out about player Y. Of course I believe that Cutler is the more talented, better player, absolutely. A talented starting QB doesnt lose his job to an injury, especially when he comes back that season. They almost ALWAYS get a chance to prove themselves again.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 12, 2013 -> 03:58 PM) Rich Gannon was a completely mediocre nobody until he went to Oakland at age 33 and began playing under Trestman. Pre-Trestman, Gannon never had more than 16 TDs (he also had 16 INT that year). Never more than 2300 yards passing. Gannon threw 24, 28, 27, and 26 TDs in his first 4 years with Trestman and became a pro-bowl QB. Averaged 3947 yards those 4 seasons too. You're right, Jon Gruden's offense was key to Gannon beating out the dynamic Bobby Hoying.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Dec 12, 2013 -> 03:47 PM) So if McCown was 25 then its different? Either starters dont lose their job to injury, or its just a meaningless cliche that people use when they dont want to make a tough decision. I vote the latter. Yup, younger and unproven, absolutely. Old with a long track record, back to the bench.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 12, 2013 -> 03:39 PM) Nick Foles is a semi decent example as well. Not sure if you can compare young unproven guys who get a chance to a 34 year old journeyman who was coaching HS football a year ago.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Dec 12, 2013 -> 03:31 PM) Joe Montana was injured so Steve Young took over. When Joe Montana was healthy in 1992 he played one half of the last game of the season against Detroit. They then replaced him with Young for the playoffs. Or is the rule that if you get injured and then there is an offseason, all bets are off? I guess I just dont know what the sacred "if youre injured you dont lose your starting job" rule is. Montana's arm was f***ed up when he came back. (He missed all of 1991 and all but one game of 1992) Then they traded him. Not a good example. If anything Young could be used as an example of the incumbent losing his job temporarily when Steve Bono took it. Then that would work.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 12, 2013 -> 03:29 PM) Then technically shouldn't he have come back the next year as the starter? Not when they found out Warner was immensely more talented. ha looking it up, Green was brought in to replace Steve Young's usurper, Bono. Yeah, you dont replace that.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 12, 2013 -> 03:26 PM) He played in, nay, WON the AFC Championship, and was then replaced by Tom Brady in the Superbowl. Because of a Brady injury IIRC.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 12, 2013 -> 03:25 PM) Ya, from what I remember he ended up sticking with Brady over Bledsoe at the end of the season and through the playoffs. By that time I believe Brady had started almost 10 games and there was no going back. Bledsoe did get a playoff appearance.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 12, 2013 -> 03:11 PM) Then we'd have no Tom Brady. Only if Bledsoe's insides didnt explode.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Dec 12, 2013 -> 03:16 PM) Steve Young says hi too. But Rocks statement is exactly my point. Its just safer to say "Starters dont lose their job to injuries" and not really take a risk. What?

A starting QB doesnt lose his job to injury, especially a starting QB that is as talented at Cutler.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 12, 2013 -> 12:38 PM) No way. He was just a college kid partying. And a lot of people wanted to unload him at the time because of it. That would have been a beyond stupid move.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 12, 2013 -> 11:35 AM) Apparently P90X3 just came out. Looks like it's a return to a lot of the things in the original, but the workouts have been reduced to about 30 minutes each. Whoa.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Dec 12, 2013 -> 12:23 PM) Very creepy. I would have feared for flying objects being thrown in my general direction lmao. Well, she'd bought me an 83 fisk jersey for my bday a few months earlier and I wore it, so Im sure I wasnt being the most sensitive person.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Dec 12, 2013 -> 11:28 AM) I think you're cleared there. LMAO. Shades of Parks and Rec. He broke up with me so nicely that I didn't think he actually was. I was like, what are you doing here? "Taking you to my party." Uh. She also bought tickets to that weekend's Cubs/Sox game at the Cell (shes a cubs fan) and she sat in her seat a section above us and stared down the whole time.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Dec 12, 2013 -> 11:08 AM) I hope you were extremely young when that happened. Yikes. 23-24 I think. The back story is I thought we'd already broken up and then she showed up to my house to take me to her bday party and I had to dump her again.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 12, 2013 -> 11:01 AM) Take a break. 1 week, 2 week, whatever, go without contact for a period of time and see how you feel afterwards (aside from the intial blow of not being with her). Even just that amount of time will give you an idea as to what the right decision is. Sometimes people are the way they are because they lack the motivation. I'm sure she still cares a great deal about you, but maybe the thought of losing you will trigger the idea that maybe she should do something more to support you trying to lose weight and look good. Maybe she starts preparing meals or buying and eating more nutritiously or going to the gym with you now and then, and in turn maybe she finds that she really likes it. You might find some things you can change too. And then maybe not, and you find that being without her is better and more conducive to improving yourself. Timing is bad though, holidays are the WORST time to do this. Then again, I dumped a girl on her birthday once....

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Dec 12, 2013 -> 10:59 AM) I know you guys are all right about this. It's just hard because I just know my image will be tainted. I really wish she would just wake the f*** up (I have been transparent about this numerous times). I think I'm just going to have to talk to her again about this and if things get dicey, I might just end it. I am also uneasy because since she lives with her parents, that really limits the amount of time we can see each other. I have been to her parents place several times but I can't really sleep over there. She's so oblivious to how awkward it is too. So it feels like my relationship is one giant routine. Weird I know. Frankly I have more respect for guys that know its over and do it up front and honest than ones that wait, take it or cheat. My ex's family probably isnt fond of me but my entire family and friends circle love the direction I went.

Illinois was a pretty darn good offensive team this year.

I disagree that Flowers is the starting catcher, I'm fairly sure they are more confident in Phegley.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Dec 12, 2013 -> 10:11 AM) Seriously? My biggest concern would be the fall out. A lot of friends and family have met this girl and I the same of hers. To break it off over something like this, I'm sure I'd be judged to kingdom come (from my family too). I don't want to force her but I also feel myself not being attracted to her anymore. I probably just need to man up and get it over with but I just feel like I would be a s***ty person for doing this. Ive broken up with girls ive lived with. At the end of the day you cant stay with someone just because of the "fall out" or because other people like her. It's your life. If you arent attracted to her anymore, time to bail.

Tressel is about to be the president at the University of Akron. I think his coaching days are ova.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 11, 2013 -> 01:10 PM) The same Urlacher who threw a temper tantrum when the Bears replaced him. lol. He's an idiot.