South Side Fireworks Man

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Apr 8, 2017 -> 03:55 PM) If Raburn comes up and replaces him, who starts in CF and who is the backup? I know you're not suggesting Raburn but if they really wanted to call him up soon is the scenario I'm giving. Let Avi play CF. He can't be any worse there than he is in RF and he may actually be better. Some players find it easier to play CF than a corner OF spot. Plus his bat plays better in CF than in RF.

Ugly.

Leury hits one Buxton can't get to.

Nice play, Saladino.

Where's our Byron Buxton?

It's always good when the Sox win.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Apr 4, 2017 -> 02:06 PM) Abreu needs to be a full time DH. Yep.

QUOTE (Sox-35th @ Apr 1, 2017 -> 06:21 PM) Those are the two options? Stick to fireworks, dude. OK, "dude."

I wish we had Caray and Piersall to get us through this rebuild.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 1, 2017 -> 02:16 PM) You are going to hate the next two seasons Sox should be a .500 in 2018 and a contender by 2019. If not, they'll probably suck for another decade.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Mar 31, 2017 -> 11:08 AM) I think the infield defense will be better than last year. Catching will be better. CF defense will be much better. Melky is Melky in LF. RF is a big downgrade, but I expect Avi will DH his fair share (Melky too). I don't think the defense will be THAT bad, at least initially. Pitching? Meh. Bullpen is fine to pretty solid. Q and Rodon are just fine as 1 and 2. I think Gonzalez is fine as a #5. Shields will be better, but not good. I think Holland will be a fine #4. Basically we have a #1, and #3 (with the chance to be a #1 as well), and three #4/#5 types. You have contract years from both Melky and Frazier. I expect both to be pretty solid, and Frazier to be much better than last year. They should both be motivated. Abreu was awful in the first half last year - I expect him to be much better. I am excited to see Saladino out there most days and think at worst he is a 1 WAR player. Managing will be better. I think the team may have a bit of a chip on its shoulder with how bad everyone thinks they will be. Really only subtracted 2 players off last years team, and while they were both very good, one only impacted 20% of the games, and both were questionable clubhouse guys (I admittedly loved them both). I just don't think this team is that bad. I don't think they're going to compete for the division or anything, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see they get off to a decent start. I know I for one will be rooting for wins and hoping for good performances for all team members until its obvious that they suck. I just can't root for my team to lose. The chances of us getting Seth Beer are minimal. I pretty much agree with all of this.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Mar 31, 2017 -> 10:35 AM) You think managers matter a hell of a lot more than I do. They traded away their 2 best players (Roughly 11 WAR) and added nothing to replace them. 70 wins absolute best record possible for me. I expect better production from every infield position, catcher, and similar to last year's production from LF and CF. Maybe Avi will surprise us by having a halfway decent season. Pitching is going to be a problem and DH is a big question mark but the managing and clubhouse should be better so I'll say the Sox turn in a pretty meh season with between 75 - 79 wins. That's not taking into account any trades of regulars for prospects that aren't ready to contribute to the major league roster.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Mar 31, 2017 -> 10:14 AM) Everyone is entitled to their opinion but how? I think they are a bottom 5 team in league right now and haven't subtracted more yet. Addition by subtraction. No more Ventura for one.

Probably somewhere between 75 to 79 wins. I'll say 77.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Mar 10, 2017 -> 06:21 PM) A hot start from Q and if the right teams (Yanks, Boston, Astros, Pitt, Cards, Dodgers, cubs) become desperate enough in July, the return on Q might meet or exceed the Sale trade. Well, it certainly should.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 20, 2017 -> 05:48 AM) Of all the things in a Quintana deal, the surest thing is Q. If you are worried not trading him will screw everything up, you should be more worried trading him asap and just taking what they can get, will screw everything up. All the guys the Wox received for Sale and Eaton look great on paper, but as of now we really don't know if any of them can really play, let alone as well as Sale or Eaton. Can you imagine if the Sox traded Quintana for the "prospects" Borchard, Reed, Anderson and Beckham? Most of Soxtalk would be ecstatic about the haul Hahn got for Q. As KW always said, prospects are "suspects" until proven otherwise.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 02:34 PM) Sox have no inclination to move him either, unless they were to get a package GREATER than the Sale return. As it should be.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 01:24 PM) Yankees get: Cutch and Glasnow Pirates get: Quintana and Adujar Sox get: Frazier, Rutherford, Newman, and Keller Thoughts? Pretty good for the Sox.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 08:12 PM) Yes, I would be very angry with that return, getting back three guys who are not going to be able to hit major league pitching would be a tremendous fail. Judge is built like Adam Dunn, and has power to similar to Dunn and also the extreme swing and miss Dunn had to his game. The difference is that Dunn had a better track record of contact before cracking the majors. Frazier has pitch recognition issues that will make it much more difficult to handle major league breaking balls, and Garcia might as well be Rondon 2.0. That would be an epic fail of a trade. A package from the Yankees starts with Torres, then you can sprinkle in a combination of players to make a deal. I think Torres, Rutherford, Acevedo, and Frecier Perez would be a good deal for both sides. The Yankees have to give up two top 50 prospects, but they are both pretty far away from the majors. Acevedo fits in with the pitching staff that the Sox are putting together as another impact arm, albeit with questions. Perez is a lottery ticket arm. Yes, the Yankees package is going to have to be a little heavier than what the Red Sox gave up because the Red Sox package is closer to the majors and with that carries less risk of busting. I'd be happy with a return of Torres, Frazier and Judge.

I'd like Frazier and Judge.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 13, 2016 -> 12:02 AM) The argument always made was that almost none of our prospects came back to bite us. The problem with that line of argument is that it led to a continual erosion of depth, to the point where we never had the right pieces after that 1998-2001 cycle to get someone like Miguel Cabrera via trade. We were always on the short end. As I recall, the Sox lost out on Cabrera because they wouldn't take Dontrell Willis.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 10, 2016 -> 01:59 PM) Saw someone on Twitter saying that Buster Olney said that he could see the Rockies offer Rodgers/Tapia/Pint for Q and the Pirates offer Glasnow/Meadows/Bell or Newman. I'd take either.... I'd love that Pirates offer.

QUOTE (Moncada @ Dec 10, 2016 -> 11:14 AM) Sox have NO power at any level in the organization. Reed has to be included I agree.

QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Dec 10, 2016 -> 05:46 AM) If we've learned anything from Cashman over the years, it's that he HATES playing 2nd fiddle to the Red Sox in the AL East. The Holiday & Chapman signings tell me that they definitely do NOT intend on rebuilding. They do have a stock pile of really nice prospects-- thanks to in part of the Chapman and Miller deals. With that said, I'm sure Hahn would LOVE to get his hands on Clint Frazier, Gleybor Torres AND Gary Sanchez. If the Yankees really want Quintana back, they better pony up. Hell, i'm sure Hahn would even throw David Robertson into the package. With the Astros seemingly holding onto their prospects like a creepy crazy cat woman hoarding wild felines, I expect the Yankees coming out of the woodwork for Q and this would be a tremendous scenario for the White Sox' system. I'll take Frazier, Torres and Judge.

I want Reed, Martes, Tucker and Fisher for Q. I think that's fair value for both sides.