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Only if the surgeon put one of the portals in the wrong place. This would have been an arthroscopic procedure not an open one so they don't cut through tissue. Even if they did an open procedure the UCL is extrarticular and would not be involved in the process. Even with inflammation it would effect the joint capsule but not the ligaments. When they remove the bone spurs they don't change the shape. of the joint. If the surgeons made that significant of an error he would not have been pitching.

Correct. Hahn had his chance, had a short lived successful run. It ultimately failed and he was rightly fired. Same thing applies to Getz. Everyone gets a chance. If it doesn't work they get fired. It's the way of sports.

From the reports on how Hahn and Williams ran it, they may not have included him. Shirley was the director of amateur scouting and had a say on who they traded for. Regardless, it wasn't his plan nor his execution. I know you don't like him or the organization as a whole and think he should have won the world series last year. I for one, will watch what he does and give him a chance to execute his plan.

By that logic, if those trades are bad you blame Getz for them? Mike Shirley as he was in the organization too? He probably had as much input as Getz. I look at the person who is responsible for the plan and whether he executes it or not. He gets 4-5 years to make a team his way. If it doesn't work, he gets the walking papers.

I would define it differently. I would define it when the new guy took over and started making the decisions. Regardless of what Hahn did it wasn't Getz’s plan.

Yeah, he has an extensive injury. Smith had his UCL reconstruction but it was 5 years ago or so. Schultz with those long levers is a risk. Odds are you can count on him having one at some point.

Negativity sells. Chicago is a big sports market. Parkins has a national TV show.

Rebuild II is in its second year. Patience grasshopper.

Possible. It has happened.

Thus us a very generous way to put it. He tried to make them feel uncomfortable and then make them believe they could know more because of his gift of knowledge to them so they could know more than the people who run the teams or played. There is no doubt he was a good hire and made them money as controversy sells. Just too bad he finally started to believe his shtick too much

The fractures thumb is an issue. Won't be able to grip for a few weeks. My guess is he'll miss at least a month probably 6 weeks.

At least everyone will have company on the training room. No one will feel lonely or not part of a team while away at rehab. 😀

Which leads one to believe that it was a significant tear.

Thus seems to be most likely. All happened during the ramp up to getting ready for this season. Need to wonder about the condition of the elbow strength prior to spring training.

It's interesting. The previous surgery was for bone spurs. Has nothing to do with the ligament.

Dang. I wonder if he did it ramping up? Either that or didn't give all of the info with the previous one. At least they are all missing a year where the team was still planning on being bad. Next up!

I don't think that will matter. I think once he shows he's healthy and gets what they feel is enough spring training at bats, he'll be called up. He would be the starting shortstop now if he was healthy.

He appealed to the non-athlete who thought they knew more about sports than the people involved as that's the way he was. He refused to have the athletes on as they didn't know enough about their sport particularly baseball. He was one of the first to really push analytics because the smart people knew more about baseball than the scouts and people who played. He made the average listener feel more important.

They do have some interesting ones. At least they are all better than average defenders as well.

Is their reporting of it really that important? Most GMs, owners, managers don't give any more information than they have to.

Yep. He will until he is ready to leave.

I think it's going to be a around 5 years give or take a couple.

Brisket curds.

Brisket curds.

Been in those too. 😆