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QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 19, 2012 -> 08:06 PM) That is waaaaay different and you know it. But I'm glad we agree. I don't think it is all that different. Alcohol related deaths outnumber gun related deaths so why is one OK and not the other?

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 19, 2012 -> 03:20 PM) Oh what the f*** man. Also, my friend put on facebook "No thanks Obama, I'll keep my AK-47." WHY THE f*** DOES A 19 YEAR OLD GIRL IN COLLEGE NEED A GODDAMN AK-47. It's the same argument about needing a beer. You don't need one but want one. How many drunk drivers kill people each year? So let's go back to prohibition to save all of the people which could possibly die in a drunk driving accident. However, I do agree that automatic weapons should be illegal, they do not serve a legal purpose.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Dec 19, 2012 -> 11:07 AM) It was a joke, because lacrosse players are often labeled as being annoying douchebags. Got it. Personally I love them they are the 2nd nuttiest group to work with. Second only to wrestlers. They are also one of the best athletes and extremely fun to watch.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 19, 2012 -> 06:48 AM) Adopting the Chained CPI across the board would effectively be a middle-class tax increase on top of cuts to Social Security and Medicare. Write your Senators and Representatives. You're right in that this was a completely fabricated 'issue' of our own doing in the first place. And like you said, why not just go over the damn cliff if you're getting less tax increases above $250k than you wanted, having to unnecessarily cut entitlement programs and getting little or nothing in return? Obama really does seem to be terrible at negotiating with Republicans, but I'll wait until an official deal is actually presented before completely melting down. I have no problem with tax increases as long as there are spending cuts to go along with it. There is too much of a gap between how much they want to spend and the current revenue. They need to bring it closer togther.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Dec 19, 2012 -> 01:37 AM) Dual sport athlete. Baseball and lacrosse. How is that possible? They are played at the same time in the Spring.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 18, 2012 -> 06:06 PM) Must be awful living life with such paranoia. I think alot of it is just how much control should the government have. I know it's not on the same scale but a good example is the seat belt. When the government mandated them, I remember the commercials the government put out saying "it's for the good and safety for everyone, we will never fine people for not wearing them, it's just too make everyone safer." Fast forward 30 years and there are fines for not wearing them.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 18, 2012 -> 03:03 PM) they're not even subtle about the "compensating" angle Why should they be. They are using an advertising ploy to get people to buy one of their products which is legal. Don't blame a company for trying to make money legally.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Dec 17, 2012 -> 04:21 PM) Depends on your definition of "need". All of the examples you used could be solved through other methods (compound bow, fence, trap, etc.) But the gun is an effective tool. Most reasonable people recognize this. Its just there needs to be some recognition that you dont need a 30 clip magazine to effectively prevent squirrels or any other animal. A bolt loading rifle could handle many of those jobs, and unless someone has great proficiency they are unlikely to get as many shots off as they would with a semi-auto. I agree with the concept. Your other options are not as effective as a gun. I use a lever action personally. Semi-auto aren't as much fun either in my view. This is why I would not be in favor of an overall gun ban or restriction.

QUOTE (Lamar Johnson 23 @ Dec 18, 2012 -> 03:34 PM) Alejandro DeAza is no Mike Trout! Are you old enough to remember Mark "The Bird" Fidrych? Google him, look at his rookie numbers, then look what he did after. See also Kerry Wood, Dwight Gooden, Jerome Walton, Mark Prior, etc. The prime example is "Super" Joe Charbeneau. THE ROY in 1980 I think. He won the ROY and was out of baseball in just a couple of years. I doubt it happens to Trout as it doesnt happen often. However, it does happen.

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Dec 18, 2012 -> 04:20 PM) Pickle juice? I'm going to switch to a glass of 1% chocolate milk and a bowl of oatmeal after my morning workout and a protein shake before bed and go from there. Pickle juice is the original gatorade. It has the sodium and such that muscle need for energy. The basis of the krebs cycle is the Na and K (potassium). This is how energy is developed. It works well and many colleges use it because it's cheap (the leftovers that the cafeteria would throw away). Your routine looks good. Just make sure it's well rounded.

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Dec 18, 2012 -> 03:54 PM) Thanks for the suggestions everyone. Chocolate milk is a good suggestion because it has a little of everything in it. Another good suggestion is the recovery drinks or pickle juice. For a person training for a triathalon who is going from one to the next this type of nutrition is important.

QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 18, 2012 -> 03:08 PM) Not super new references and one redundant one, but this source is a Ph.D who specializes in protein in the athlete's diet. He's also a pro natural bodybuilder, but that by no means makes you an authority. Posting from tablet so I'm not very prepared with references. The main point is that we have nothing to worry about with the amount of protein we might eat, even when we are pushing it past conservative recommendations. http://www.biolayne.com/uncategorized/myth...in-diet-safety/ I also think that worrying about nutrient timing, particularly carbs and fats, is a waste of time unless you're doing endurance training (like a marathoner, not 30 minutes on an elliptical) or otherwise totally depleting glycogen. I might speculate that CrossFit and P90x training could deplete glycogen, fwiw. I'm not necessarily saying that excess protein WILL cause kidney dysfunction However, it can be a contributing factor and alot of research shows this. This latest information isn't research but someone who has picked some articles that are old. The most recent is 8 years old. Another factor he states is the high level athlete. His examples are body builders and elite athletes who workout for a living. This is still the type of information that you need to be careful with. It's a person trying to promote an idea and doesn't have recent information.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 18, 2012 -> 01:02 PM) IMO, yes. Frankly, chocolate milk may work for you. ALso, I dont know about this "peeing" out protein BS I saw earlier. I s*** out spare protein, and its quite nasty. After you workout hard and pee it can get brownish and smelly. This is some protein from muscle. However, ingested protein does get filtered in the kidneys this is why an excess can cause problems.

QUOTE (103 mph screwball @ Dec 18, 2012 -> 12:10 PM) All I want for Christmas is a good juicy trade rumor. I don't care if it is real or not. Anything plausible that has a uncertain source like Gavin's cousin's husband or Rich Hahn's cable guy. Anything for Soxtalk to discuss and start thinking about even if we all know it only has a small chance of happening. I miss KW already. Something big was always possible at any time with KW so the Sox could always be the mystery team in all of the rumors. Besides, this would be a good time to notice my sig. Hopefully Hahn is just good at working behind the scenes and we don't go back to the days of Schueler where non one is traded because they believe that our prospects are better than everyone else's and they seems afraid to trade anyone..

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Dec 18, 2012 -> 11:40 AM) Not a why me at all. I wasn't even arguing. Is it so out of the realm of possibility, that Danks does not come back as good as before, to warrant being jumped on? I don't think so. The significance is saying this is like saying "the Sox will suck." Most posters want to know the reason why you think Danks will not be good, just like when others want to know why posters think what they think. There is not much good discussion from a blanket statement without a supporting statement. That's why it leads to the perceived attacks.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Dec 18, 2012 -> 09:44 AM) So it's the messenger not the message. I thought the message board guidelines frowned upon that sort of thing. i think it was more your comment that he won't throw 190 due to the surgery because all pitcher's who have surgery will have problems. I was trying to clarify the type of surgery and why there is hope for him to well this year compared to other types of surgery. There obviously is no guarantee however the "he had surgery so he cannot do well this year" is the far other end of the spectrum.

QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 18, 2012 -> 11:28 AM) http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition...troversies.html No offense but the reference is from one person's view and all of his references are at least 7 years out of date. There are many articles related to excess protein and possible damage to the body. Here is an abstract from the journal Toxicology, a well-respected research journal: Recent studies have revealed that trichloroethylene (TCE) can induce occupational medicamentosa-like dermatitis (OMLD) with multi-system injuries, including liver, kidney and skin injuries, which can subsequently cause multiple organ failure later. But the mechanism of immune dysfunction leading to organ injury was rarely clarified. The present study was initiated to analyze the influence of trichloroethylene on renal injury and study the relevant mechanism in guinea pigs. Guinea pig maximization test (GPMT) was carried out. Inflammation on the guinea pigs' skin was scored. Kidney function, urine protein and ultra-structural change of kidney were determined by biochemical detection and electron microscope. Deposition of complement 3 and membrane attack complex (MAC, C5b-9) were determined by immunohistochemistry. Erythema and edema of skin impairment were observed in TCE sensitized groups, and sensitization rate was 63.16%. Through electron microscope, tubular epithelial cell mitochondrial swelling, vacuolar degeneration and atrophy of microvillus were observed in TCE sensitized groups. The parameters of urease and urinary protein elevated markedly, and a high degree of C3 and MAC deposition was found in the renal tubular epithelial cells in TCE sensitized groups. By demonstrating that TCE and its metabolites can cause the deposition of C3 and MAC in renal epithelial cells, we found that activated complement system may be the mechanism of the acceleration and the development of TCE-induced kidney disease. Again I don't take any one source and put much weight on it. However, too much of any one thing is usually not good. Something as toxic as protein can cause problems. As long as you monitor the extra protein you are probably fine but it needs to be monitored.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 17, 2012 -> 04:15 PM) Right, and that's why balta's talking about different restrictions based on where you live making sense. Correct but it also means that guns do have a use and people not only have a right but need them for various reasons.

QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ Dec 17, 2012 -> 03:58 PM) It is not false. A car has a purpose outside of deadly harm. I agree with you about drinking and driving. But...a gun has no other purpose. Guns serve an important purpose for livelyhood of many people. I use them to keep the coyotes away from the chickens. The ground squrriels and rodents who destroy crops also fall in this category. There was a cougar once that was threatening the cattle. This is why you need local laws. Weapons do serve a purpose other than killing for fun as many people are stating.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 05:23 PM) So we can expect 190 innings from Danks next year. This is possible but I doubt it. He will suffer from missing so much time last year. I don't have the exact numbers in front of me but I know he missed most of the year. With this type of surgery it depends on accurrate the surgeon was and if the medical staff needed to stretch out the capsule. As I stated earlier it's a big advantage not having the primary problem being the rotator cuff or bicep tendon. No surgery is a sure thing but this one is a "lesser of the evils." You are being too pessimistic about his chances.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 10:28 AM) <!--quoteo(post=2737934:date=Dec 16, 2012 -> 07:58 AM:name=Alpha Dog)-->QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 07:58 AM) <!--quotec-->Is the answer to make them safer take away MY guns? Seriously, because some people are f*cked in the head, do you think the solution is to stop ME from having a gun? And Tex, your suicide story would have happened anyway. He didn't just decide to do it because he had access to a gun. That is a whole different bag of issue. I'd like to hear your honest opinion on gun policy. We all know this guy suffered from mental illness. Every single person that does one of these cowardly attacks is either sick or just plain stupid. Unfortunately, it's going to be hard to identify all these people and even if you did there's nothing you can do them to guarantee they won't do something crazy. What we can control is their ability to kill people in large quantities as best we can. What purpose does an assault rifle serve other than making some hillbilly feel powerful? It's not used for sport and it's not used for self-defense unless China decides to invade at some point. It's intended to be a killing machine and should not be allowed for purchase in this country. I don't even understand how they were ever legal in the first place. Banning them would be a small and simple way to possibly limit the amount of deaths in an attack like we saw this week. Obviously such a ban doesn't truly guarantee anyone safety, but I see no benefit to this country by allowing its citizens to purchase assault rifles. Do you disagree on this? I will bet there are more assault rifles in the city than there are in "hillbilly" country. It's amazing the sterotypes that come out.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Dec 15, 2012 -> 12:32 PM) this is my point though, after than FIRST shot isn't the likelihood you hit your target close to nil unless you're an expert marksman? (if i'm wrong you can let me know too, i'm not all that experienced with hunting. shooting yes, but hunting no) No, you have the time to take the three shots. Depending on the choke set on the shotgun you can have it set for wider or narrow shot pattern. With the narrow shot pattern you can hit the bird from 100 yards. Again, the shotgun has a limit of three so it's not the semi-auto handgun with a 15 round clip. Those are intended for shooting ranges and are the most common in violent crimes. I don't have handguns just for that reason.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Dec 15, 2012 -> 09:34 AM) as a hunter i've got a question - when is a semi-automatic rifle useful in a hunting scenario? the moment you fire, unless your aim was on, that game is bounding off through the woods, leaving you plenty of time to reload, no? I hunt mostly pheasant, quail, ducks and such, so there is no time to reload. However, I personally use a double barrel so I do not have a semi automatic.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 15, 2012 -> 07:08 AM) IMO there is a far greater chance a loved one gets injured by your gun through an accident than its presence will actually protect your family. A night doesn't go by in Chicago where multiple people don't get shot, it's just very rare a home invasion winds up with people shot. It does happen obviously, but most residential burglars don't carry a gun with them. It seems to me more people get injured cleaning a gun or finding daddy's gun, than people using a gun to successfully defend their home, although some 80 year old guy did it a month or so ago. This is the part that is unacceptable to me. There is no reason for a child to be able to access a gun. I have a number of rifles and shotguns. We go shooting and hunting on a regular basis. The guns are never out of the safe at home. I have the key in a spot they cannot find let alone reach. You read about this thing happening so often and it's the parent's fault for not teaching the children properly and not securing them.

QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 08:05 PM) I bought his ebook before I even finished reading So did I.