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QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jan 26, 2014 -> 05:35 PM) Thanks UC, I appreciate the kind words especially since we've had our differences in the past. You never have enough pitching and I don't understand the idea of when we need it, we'll spend the money then. It's like buying a furnace in the winter even though you have money for it in the summer. I agree you can never have too much pitching. However, I also trust the Sox to know if the prospects are ready for a chance at the MLB. If they are ready let them have the chance to grow.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 26, 2014 -> 07:43 AM) First time ever in the TV Thread. Just looking for new shows to check out, I'm stuck in the apartment for two weeks over Chinese New Year's before I can fly to Indonesia. Here's my current list. Elementary Sons of Anarchy Breaking Bad NCIS NCIS/LA CSI/Las Vegas Modern Family Big Bang Theory Scandal House of Cards Hostages Marvel's Agents of SHIELD Entourage Larry David/Curb Your Enthusiasm I've heard some recommendations for Homefront, Boss (Kelsey Grammar), The Newsroom, The Blacklist and Betrayal. Someone else mentioned The Good Wife but I'm not much of a Juliana Margulies fan. Person of Interest, too. Any other great shows out there that are reminiscent of the ones on my list? Orphan Black is one worth watching

QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jan 25, 2014 -> 06:36 PM) Someone's paycheck is totally relevant in this case because a good portion of the revenue the White Sox bring in to pay those salaries come from the wallets of those fans. And it's not like Dunn's dog is being kicked, they're just words and it comes with the territory. Also, I don't know where you come off trying to put words in my mouth. I already said s***ting on people in a situation like soxfest isn't my thing. But again, I'm not gonna act like I have any right to tell people how to act as you so apparently feel like you have the right to do. It does not come with the territory to treat people like that. You can say they played bad, I;m sure he knows that, but to constantly treat him like that is wrong. Maybe it's just the parent in me but when people behave that poorly, you do have the right to tell them they should treat others with respect. It's just being civilized.

QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jan 25, 2014 -> 05:54 PM) This is just silly. Lets act like casual fans won't speak their mind if given the chance. And lets act all high and mighty and talk down to those classless fans, we're white sox fans, we're better than those people who can't resist speaking their mind! Give me a break, there is no code for being a white sox fan, or a cubs fan, or a fan of anything. People are gonna always act like people have done for thousands of year. So while you might disagree with it, that's fine, but get off your pedastals of looking down at others like your so high and mighty and never disrespect or insult anyone. I can honestly say I have never treated anyone like that. I may have told them I disagree with them but not in that manner. You can speak your mind without treating other people like garbage.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jan 24, 2014 -> 05:14 PM) You act like we don't hear a drunk Hawk everyday during the summer. Good point but in the pubs they tend to get even better.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 24, 2014 -> 04:40 PM) SUCK ME COWLEY! A drunk Hawk could be fun to listen to. Bob Eucker was an absoluteblast to listen to after a few in a bar.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 24, 2014 -> 04:30 PM) This reminds me of that movie Joe Versus The Volcano. One of my favorites. A young Meg Ryan playing 3 different roles. Not quite Orphan Black but still characters.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 24, 2014 -> 03:48 PM) He did have a minor shoulder injury late in the regular season, that I saw in person. He dove in short RF and fell hard on his throwing shoulder, same arm as the nerve thing. Any chance that could be what triggered the problem coming back and needing a second surgery? Very possible. The injury starts as an overuse injury and poor throwing mechanics. The ulnar collateral ligament (UCL) loosens and the inside of the elbow creates too much of an angle when throwing due to the forces. The ulnar nerve is then stretched as he throws causing the numbness or tingling. Now once it is already predisposed to being irritated, if you slam it on the ground and aggravate it (as well as possibly injuring the UCL again) it may cause enough problems that the surgeon just decide to move it to keep it from getting aggravated again. The surgery is really to prevent it from happening again not to help the current pain or numbness.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 24, 2014 -> 03:47 PM) Seriously, great having that kind of poster here. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 24, 2014 -> 03:18 PM) I love the fact that you post here. Thanks again. No problems. I like reading about various injuries and interventions. Occupational hazzard.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 24, 2014 -> 03:24 PM) "Cuban Bomber" "Cuban Cannon" "Cuban Galactus, Destroyer of Worlds" "Cuban Mayan Calendar" "Cuban Cuban" "Cuban Hulk" "Cuban Konerko" "Island Strong" "Cuban Thome" "Cuban Frank" "Cuban Hurt" "Cuban Giant" "Asesino del Tocino" Grande Duele, The Spanish version of the Big Hurt.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 24, 2014 -> 02:17 PM) I believe it is the same arm. Again, I get the impression that once it is moved, as long as it stays put, he's 100% fine and normal. It is only a question of, will it or could it move again? Because then he's out for a few months at a shot. It was apparently 5 years or so between instances in this case. OK. Makes sense now. It is a very common and low risk surgery. He will not have any problems later. The first surgery was probably to release it from an entrapment and the second is called an ulnar nerve transposition where they take the nerve out of it's tunnel under the arm and move it on top and secure it with fascial tissue. He probably has some damage to his ulnar collateral ligament and the joint is a little loose.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 23, 2014 -> 09:41 AM) And his terrific start was in a league he was too old for. At 22 he would have to be one of the oldest guys on Kanny's team who is/was still considered a prospect. I am definitely not as bullish on Johnson as everyone else around here. I like him a lot though funny kid with some nice tools. Should be interesting to see where he starts the season. I don't think he's earned a spot at Birmingham but considering the Sox track record he probably does start there. In the review, it said he was shut down to have a nerve removed in his arm. Does anyone have more information on that? It sound very peculiar.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jan 24, 2014 -> 12:00 PM) I obviously don't know the ins and outs of Stanford as well as I do Notre Dame, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that's not at all true. You probably don't have to meet the same standards as the other students applying for admission, but I have to believe there are plenty of DI-FBS players that Stanford would not touch. I'm not disagreeing. That is just where the discussion went and why some people assumed others were saying he lacked intelligence.

QUOTE (ScottyDo @ Jan 24, 2014 -> 12:04 PM) I mostly just think the manager isn't super-important so I guess I feel very 'meh' about it. The manager is very important in managing the clubhouse and players egos/personalities. On the field not so much.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jan 24, 2014 -> 11:55 AM) FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Friday, January 24, 2014 CHICAGO – The Chicago White Sox have agreed to terms on a multiyear contract extension with manager Robin Ventura. Terms of the contract were not released by the club. Ventura, 46, has gone 148-176 in two seasons with the White Sox after being hired as the 39th manager in franchise history on October 6, 2011. He was one of three finalists for American League Manager of the Year in 2012 after guiding the White Sox to an 85-77 record and second-place finish in the Central division. “Jerry, Kenny, Robin and I have had many conversations about our objectives in both the short and long term,” said Rick Hahn, White Sox senior vice president/general manager. “We are in complete agreement with the direction and vision for this organization in 2014 and beyond. I have great confidence that Robin’s leadership and direction will help us reach our goals, and there was never really any question in our minds as to who we wanted in the White Sox dugout now and into the future.” “We have been on the same page since day one, but I’m very happy to have this behind us so we can continue to keep our focus on the playing field,” said Ventura. “I’m excited about the direction of the club and the moves we have made this offseason, but there is still a lot of work to be done so I think we’re all ready to get to spring training and get started.” Ventura spent 16 major-league seasons with the White Sox (1989-98), New York Mets (1999-2001), New York Yankees (2002-03) and Los Angeles Dodgers (2003-2004), hitting .267 (1,885-7,064) with 294 home runs and 1,182 RBI in 2,079 games. He didn't push for a lifetime contract so I really don't think he is committed to being the manager.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jan 24, 2014 -> 11:32 AM) Smart, intelligent people say stupid s*** all the time. Poking fun at a guy for being dumb once doesn't mean you're saying he's an unintelligent person generally. I think it all stems for subsequent discussions. It was either me or someone else you said that he is not an idiot because he got into Stanford and got a GPA of 3.7. Which in turn lead to the discussion of grades meaning nothing and anyone can get into Stanford if they can play football.

QUOTE (dasox24 @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 10:58 PM) I'm quite curious what's going to happen to the Bears' defensive scheme. It would seem a 3-4 is becoming more likely, but both of these coaches have plenty of experience in 4-3 defense so I still wouldn't look too much into it. Regardless, Trestman/Emery aren't helping us figure it out. I'm sure we'll just be more multiple next year. That's basically how it is in the NFL anyway. It seems like "being multiple" has been the hot catch-phrase for coaches the last couple years, and I'm sure Trestman will say the same generic coach-speak when it comes to it. Emery said in an interview on the radio that he envisioned the Bears to have a "hybrid" defense similar to the Patriots where they could go from 2 to 5 players with their hands down with the same personnel. He compared McClelland to Ninkovich (LW Central grad) where he would be all over the place depending on the defense called. I think they are going to a match up type defense instead of the current defense where it is very basic and they just rely on the players to stay in their gap beat the other players.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 09:32 AM) Really the only time it's worth mentioning state income tax in regards to professional contracts such as these is when a player goes to a state like Texas or Florida that has no income tax. Then roughly half their contract is state income tax free and that can be significant, but if you're talking a state being a couple percentage points higher than another it really doesn't make much difference to a player when they're making the kind of money they're making. There are also "short term employment taxes" in many cities. This is when you work in the city or county for less than a week there are added taxes. This is in addition to the normal taxes. This is targeted at sports teams obviously. I hated them when I worked in the leagues because we didn't make as much but still had those dumb taxes taken out.

QUOTE (Tex @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 08:33 AM) Quite a dream, no? Restless are the Sox fans

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 21, 2014 -> 09:34 PM) Oops. I was thinking of the current Roberto Hernandez. Completely forgot about that one. I didn't reply because I though you were joking.

QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Jan 21, 2014 -> 09:09 PM) Roberto Hernandez says hi I've got an autographed game worn jersey of that in gray. When I brought it to a signing he laughed and said "if you were dumb enough to get it, I'm dumb enough to sign it." I told him I bought it and he said "you really are dumb." It sounded alot funnier with his accent.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 20, 2013 -> 09:44 AM) I would delete Baines & Guillen from that list. And I've never heard of Charley Lau. Without Charley Lau there wouldn't be the player in your avatar. He is the man who basically came up with the style of hitting that led to the success of the Red Sox in the 80's. Guys like wade Boggs and Frank Thomas went to the HOF with his help. He came to the White Sox then died of I believe brain cancer not long after he left. You know how JR likes his loyal employees.

QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 20, 2013 -> 07:54 AM) Agreed. It irks me more that a dead hitting coach from 30 years ago has a retired number too. I think they have some type plaque up somewhere for Charley Lau. That's good enough. Without officially retiring his number, there's no real point to it. Give 6 to somebody that wants it. Blasphemy!!!! Harold was one of the greatest Sox players of all time. Kind of like Gayle Sayers (don't freak out yet) in that if he hadn't hurt his knees he could have been an outstanding all around player for a long time. Before the injuries there were few that could match his all around game. He was one that you would stop to watch hit.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 21, 2014 -> 08:42 PM) Nope. I have more faith in Q building his arm strength and being helped by Herm and Coop to pitch effectively and avoid fatigue and injury throughout the year. Last year they were pretty even in stats with Bailey having way more K's. Give me the 24 year old left hander who has improved each year at the major league level who performed similarly in the AL with the better pitching coach and better athletic trainer over the 28 year old who despite his great stuff took forever to figure it out in the NL. Yea a shout out to an athletic trainer. We dont get those often from the outside.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jan 21, 2014 -> 07:31 PM) I loved Kenny, but he was a dick very often. Hahn is direct and non-dickish. Both are geniuses & we're lucky to have them. Remeber KW started that wayas well. He did every radio show and was interviewed alot until he was burned a few times by a couple of radio shows then he stopped doing all of them.