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QUOTE (mmmmmbeeer @ Sep 16, 2009 -> 07:15 PM) So a back fracture is on what bone in your back? From your description it sounds like it's actually on his spine?!?!? Jesus, that HAS to be painful as all hell. I'm sure it is in the spine. Your vertebrae, which make up the spine, are irregular bones with thick bodies and thin projections to which muscles and ligaments attach. They protect the spinal cord but also serve as a guidance mechanism for movement. The facets joints are on the thin projections and are susceptible to stress fracture and cracks. it will hurts with any rotation (hitting) or with bending to extreme ranges. If the fractures progress far enough the vertebra can begin to slide on one another and in severe cases pinch the spinal cord. This extreme case rarely happens. It's best to rest and let it heal if a fracture can be detected because that is a sign of too much stress in the area and it will only continue to get worse. It will probably take 4-12 weeks to heal.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 15, 2009 -> 10:39 AM) So, doctor people...what's the long-term implications of a stress fracture in one's back? If it's truly a stress fracture, there will not be any long term effects. However, if it expands into a larger "crack" so to speak and is near the facets joint of a vertebrae, it can lead to instability and have a lasting effect. Im' sure this is why they are shutting him down, to prevent the problem from expanding into a larger fracture.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Aug 31, 2009 -> 11:22 PM) Starting Freddy doesn't make sense if we're rebuilding though. It does if the Sox don't think anyones else is ready yet.

QUOTE (dmbjeff @ Aug 31, 2009 -> 11:08 PM) you ought to ask Carlton Fisk about that Yeah, I hate it when an organization keeps a player around who can't hit or catch just so he can break a meaningless record which turns out only lasted a few years.

QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Aug 25, 2009 -> 08:53 PM) Most of Allagash's stuff is outstanding. When Austin's legendary Celis Brewery closed after selling their soul to Miller, Alagash Witbier was easily the best wit made in North America. Their Double and Grand Cru are also among the standout beers to emerge in the early 1990s before most of the country had a clue what craft beer was. I have a 750 ml bottle of the Allagash Hugh Malone Ale that I have been waiting to crack, and now that this wonderful brewery has come up in conversation i think I'll have to dig into this one soon. I have not exhaustively sampled the most recent offerings from Ommegang, New Belgium, Unibroue , or Allagash, but past encounters always led me to conclude Allagash was the best of the North American upstart Belgian-style breweries. Now of course, there are a couple more players on the scene, and a comprehensive comparative beer hunt may be in order. I agree. I've been to both the Ommegang and Allagash breweries and tried them fresh. I like both but the Allagash is the better of the two.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Aug 25, 2009 -> 02:44 PM) Expect Getz to hit 40 points higher now. I may have asked this before, but why isn't Hriniak the hitting coach? We seem to send our guys with continual hitting problems to him, and he seems better than Walker. Also, how do you pronounce his name? I have just figured it was her-nee-ack. I believe it was health problems but I'm not positive. He didn't want the grind of a full season schedule.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Aug 25, 2009 -> 05:51 PM) I blame the team's constant lackadaisical play and lack of any emotion/sense of urgency on the fact that we have no punishment for guys who perform well below any reasonable standards for a significant amount of time. I believe making an example of Contreras, along with letting Dye walk after this year, would go a long way in showing them that they can't get too comfortable. This is an awful reason to punish someone in general. Being emotional has absolutely zero correlation with playing well or caring for the game. Some people have mellow personalities and deal with stress by internalizing it. Not caring about playing is a very difficult thing to judge from the outside. If you begin to puclicly do this to players you will lose them qucikly. This is not high school or even college where emotions can help a lesser talented player play a little better. All of these players are talented. Emotions in baseball usually have a deletorious effect. If you're amped up you will squeeze the bat or ball tighter and not perform at the optimal level. In baseball the most important factor for a player is comfort and consistency. We aren't talking about unproven rookies. We are talking about established veterans. They may be past thier prime or even time but the only way to decide that is to let them play and decide. Punishment on a perceived lack of emotion is not a good way to get respect from the players. If they performing poorly that's one thing. Players slump. Even for 1/2 or full seasons. We've seen what nagging injuries and slumps have done to guys like Konerko. We didn't know the extent of his injuires at the time. So before you call for players heads for "lack of emotion" Let it play out

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Aug 25, 2009 -> 05:24 PM) My issue here is, sure, proven veteran deserve to hit out of slumps; but they shouldn't be hitting out of slumps at spots in the order where production is crucial, such as the third or fourth. With Dye, especially, it's inexcusable that after 100+ ABs of sub .200, sub .600 ops production out of our #3 hitter he was finally moved. If these guys are grown men, surely they understand that when you're not producing (and not just over a week, but a month), you should be moved down in the lineup. My reply was to the point of the DFA for Contrereas. Moving players down in the lineup or to the bullpen is different than getting rid of them to make a point. I fully support moving players down in a lineup.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Aug 25, 2009 -> 03:00 PM) Fine, we can keep being pussies and allowing our players to perform like utter s*** with absolutely no consequence. We can't move a guy out of the third spot in the order because it would offend him. We can't take a guy out of the rotation until he becomes a complete embarrassment. Sign with the White Sox and you'll never be held to a decent standard again! You perform, you keep playing regularly. You don't perform, you keep playing regularly. You win either way, plus you get all of the money you're not earning. With this ideal in mind, no one is allowed to have an off year. Beleive it or not these are people. They have slumps and difficulties. Some the public know about, others such as injuries, we don't. You don't earn the respect of grown men by intimitading them into playing well. If anything baseball is a sport that if you are too wound up you play poorly. If a player is truly giving 100% effort you can demote them but you don't treat them like crap. This is all under the assumption that they are giving 100%. This was always the problem Gullien had with BA. The team didn't feel he was giving his team 100% and that his focus was elsewhere. The White Sox management will give a player every chance to do well, especially if they have given the team everything they have. Contreras has shown some signs of putting it together in some starts. I'm sure that's why they stayed with him. It just hasn't happened. In a case like Contreras he not only played well for them but busted his rear to return from injury to help the team. He deserves respect for his efforts. Demoting him is warranted. Treating him like a 2 year old is not.

QUOTE (daa84 @ Aug 21, 2009 -> 08:56 PM) student now and for a while...unfortunately its not the fun undergrad stuff anymore What do you mean? The graduate degrees are at least more interesting. There are alot more work however. Good Luck!

QUOTE (WCSox @ Aug 21, 2009 -> 09:01 PM) Since when was Reinsdorf "more aggressive" in the '90s? What a poorly-written and factually-incorrect piece of crap. I think that is in reference to the supposed involvement in MLB management. Things such as pushing for pay-for -play contracts, pushing for the mid-90's strike, concsulting with Selig on breaking the union.....etc. I don't think it is reference to being aggressive with the Sox but the overall landscape of baseball. It's this reputation that caused players like Schilling to say he would never play for him.

University professor in a physical therapy program (also the chair of the admission committee if anyone is interested). I teach the biomechanics (how the body works and moves), the orthopedics rehabilitation (musculoskeletal injuries) and health and wellness courses. Also work on the side as an athletic trainer covering athletic events at various high school and kid leagues in the southern suburbs.

QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Aug 21, 2009 -> 08:48 AM) As per my original post, lets say we have 15M to spend on some combo of Pods/Thome/Dye Would you bring back say two of those three with money to spare for a who-knows relief arm......... ........... or would ya bring in one guy like a Holliday (unlikely) or Jason Bay. Then you have your outfield and probably only have to cobble together a DH out of Flowers and/or Kotsay if he returns. Bay could DH actually. Lets make Figgins/Thome not an option for that $15M as most would probably choose that. IF KW signs an outfielder as a free agent it will be a leadoff type player. That's all the lineup needs and it looks like it needs to be in the outfield. They already like the infield.

QUOTE (greasywheels121 @ Aug 20, 2009 -> 05:52 PM) I feel great right now. I started running a little bit to work out a couple years ago, but I've really gotten obsessed and taken it to another level this year. The extra mileage has started to take a little bit of a toll on me of late, as my legs have been tighter (feeling like I haven't stretched) and a little sore, despite making a conscious effort to make time for stretching afterward. However, today's inaugural ice bath has done wonders for how I feel post-run right now. I'm a believer now. General ice baths work wonders as you've said for rejuvenating the legs. Another trick for the legs, especially feet, is to add rubbing alcohol to a bucket of ice and water to lower the freezing point. This can reaqlly take away many overuse sorenesses. The key with any of the ice baths is no more than 20-30 minutes. If you go more than that the capillaries in the area go from contriction to dialation (the body's attempt to warm the area). This will do the opposite of the effect for which you are looking. I've used ice baths after every run of 12 miles or more and seem to bounce back faster. I also use them whenever my legs start to feel too fatigued after shorter runs.

QUOTE (Kid Gleason @ Aug 20, 2009 -> 07:54 PM) 39, but I am in the best physical condition of my entire life. If only I had a full head of hair, all would be great. Sadly, I'm bald so that makes the rest all a moot point. Hey, I resemble that remark.

QUOTE (greasywheels121 @ Aug 20, 2009 -> 04:29 PM) Any runners ever take an ice bath after a workout? I just got done taking my first ice bath; wow, that makes a world of a difference. Ice baths will help alot to decrease the post run inflammation. There is nothing as hard on the body or as beneficial to the body as running. With it comes the inflammation and studies have shown that the ice baths decrease the incidence of chronic injuries.

43 I feel old. But I know I'm not the oldest.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 20, 2009 -> 01:31 PM) I was thinking as more of a great defender and average major league hitter. Yeah, that's the weird part about it. In the minors Crede was a very good hitter and average defender. It switched in the majors. Let's hope Morel's defense stays where it is and the offense kicks ups.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 20, 2009 -> 11:42 AM) Has anyone here seen Morel? Could we be looking at another Joe Crede type 3B in the making? I don't think so. Crede was an MVP at two levels, A and AA, I believe. Morel while doing well, isn't putting up those kind of numbers.

QUOTE (Tex @ Aug 20, 2009 -> 08:29 AM) For most of my history as a Sox fan, this is as good as it gets. This team will be in the race all the way, and I honestly can not ask for more than that. By late August for at least half of the last 30 years, it was time to think about the September call ups and next year. Hell, for at least a third of those year, in your heart you knew in May the team was going nowhere. This is true. We've gotten spoiled since 2000 or so. We always seem to be at least in the running. It makes the season fun even if we don't make the playoffs. For most of the past 30 years, the Sox have been out of it early.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 19, 2009 -> 11:20 PM) Sorry if I misinterpreted. If I could summarize most of the things I've read, I'd say most realize we are a severely flawed team. I thought that was a correct interpretation. My bad if I am wrong. In the underachiever thread it was 90-20 people saying we were underachievers. I figured that it was safe to say "most" after reading that thread. I agree that the Sox are a flawed team. However, if the Sox make it into the playoffs, they could do some damage because of: Buerhle, Floyd, Danks and Peavy.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 19, 2009 -> 07:23 PM) Floyd is a flyball pitcher pitching in a bandbox and has an ERA 3.00 a game lower at home than on the road. I remember reading an article on amphetimine usage in major league baseball. The article basically said usage was rampant and with it now being tested for, one of the effects could be better home records for teams as they will be sleeping in their own beds etc. and the road teams wouldn't be quite as alert. I don't know what article said it, but from my experience it is true. The travel in the MLB is alot of mental wear and tear. The less you travel the better you will play (when the amphetamines are excluded). It's more about focus and concentration than anything else.

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The wierdest injury I've ever seen on the field was when a La Crosse player had his scrotum slit open by another player's broken stick. A testicle came rolling out but still attached. It was hanging like a yo-yo. I picked it up with a towel, handed it to him and said "I think this belongs to you." The ambulance took him to the ER and later on I found out the MD just rolled it up and sutured up the scrotum and it was fine. Moral of the story: YES,WEAR A CUP!!!

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Aug 17, 2009 -> 01:31 PM) His numbers in college were sensational. The hype was justified; the problem was that there was a huge misconception about just how “perfect” his mechanics were. I don’t think anyone can deny that he did experience significant success at the major league level when he was healthy. He was a good pitcher, a really good pitcher, but his fatal flaw was his arm slot, and the pressure his delivery exerted on his shoulder. A guy like Lincecum has developed a method that allows him to deliver the ball over-the top with minimal stress, Prior used his stress to increase velocity, which increased wear and tear. I would agree with the problem with mechanics but not it's source. The arm slot wasn't all that different. The big problem was with the manner in which he threw his breaking pitches. He followed the Tom House/ Nolan Ryan style of throwing the breaking pitch where he kept his wrist straight and "snapped" his wrist down.This is exemplified by the football toss drill to enhance the wrist movement. Most biomechancial models show how much stress this puts on the shoulder and elbow.