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QUOTE (beck72 @ Aug 6, 2008 -> 12:40 PM) I think it's also a matter of keeping fresh. Both guys have had some days off [which Swish has needed more than PK, who was off during his injury]. Rotating PK, Swish, Dye, Thome and Griff during the heat of August may see some dividends in Sept. with everyone being stronger. I agree. With the end of the season the older players will tire, more mentally than physically and the days off will help. It gives Ozzie a good balance to chose from. 2 lefties Griffey, Thome, 2 Righties Dye Konerko and one switch Swish (aliteration with the sw!!!). Now we just need the strating pitching to return to form and we're sitting pretty well.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Aug 6, 2008 -> 12:48 PM) To ptatc and thedoctor, agree to disagree. I am more a believer that, with the age of our players and lack of depth in our farm system, we should look to rebuild if we don't find the promised land again this year. I felt this way last year, and so far it seems like I was definitely wrong. But, the team is definitely getting older and I don't see that solving itself. Sooner or later it will probably have to be done, and that might just be my own opinion. And again, let me clarify that I'm not talking about a total rebuild, but more of sacrificing a couple of years to dump the older players, replace them with younger guys that may need some time to adjust, and keep the young guys we already have (Buehrle, Jenks, Quentin, Ramirez, Swisher, etc.). I'm not saying your wrong. Sometimes that is the best plan. I was just commenting on how this board would react and I'm not sure if most fans would agree with you.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Aug 5, 2008 -> 09:20 PM) Yes, we can deal with having a couple bad seasons to replace the old guys. Not a total rebuild from the ground up, but sacrifice a few seasons for the bigger gain. Oh, I can't wait to see this board if KW allows this team to have a couple of down season's. Under his watch they have won a world series and only had one losing season and many on this board screams about how awful he is. Most people here tend to forget the decades of losing for the Sox and don't realize how good they've been lately. this really is a "what have you done for me today board." All that being said it is some of the most entertaining reading around...we going to the series....we suck....KW was good to CQ....KW sucks......we suck.....we're going to the series!!!!!!!!!!!

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Aug 5, 2008 -> 02:35 PM) That was Howry. Or both, but I'm pretty sure it was Howry. It was both. Although Howry was pretty good for awhile here. Erye wasn't very good at all. That was before the ADHD meds though. Of course, the meds are stimulants. What helps him more the increased concentration or the legal stimulant?

QUOTE (kwolf68 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 08:07 PM) Unbelievable. CF is easier health wise than RF or LF? Then why the hell isn't Griffey still there? Or is Kenny the only one with this esteemed information? Whatever, I don't care about it anymore...lets just see what happens with the last two months of the season. The division is so there for the taking and after that anything can happen. Again, The point is not that CF is not difficult but the main attribute for a CF is to cover ground. The corner outfielders do not need to cover as much ground however the ball tends to hook or slice more thus making the read of the ball more difficult. It remains to be seen if Griffey can do that. As I stated when this started, you COULD make a case that the corners are tougher because of the more difficult read of the ball. In center the read of the ball is more true due to the lessened spin, you just need the speed to get there. I never said this was fact, just that from one perspective, it MAY be more difficult.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 05:30 PM) This is just from your experience, which I'm sorry to say is wrong. CF is the most difficult OF position to field and there shouldn't be any debate. Lets just throw Dye or Quentin in CF and see what happens. Remember Mackowiak, or Podsednik? They were LFers who failed miserably in CF. It's not from my playing experience, I've never played at a high level. It's from talking with major and minor league players in the dugout. Most told me that at the corners it can be tougher to judge the ball off the bat due to the hooks and slices the ball takes. The only part of CF that is tougher is you need to cover more ground and bad jumps make it look even worse. Dye and Q could n't play CF because they don't have the speed to cover the ground. It's not that it's a more difficult position they just don't have the skill set to play it. LF's who fail in CF just can't cover the ground to be effective. That is speed not difficulty.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 05:12 PM) Ask Carlos Gomez about how easy it is to field a ball in CF at the Cell. Torri Hunter even made some terrible plays there. i never said any of them is easy. I just said that LF and RF tend to be more difficult. I've tried fielding balls during batting practice and while I'm a decent athlete I didn't have a chance reading the balls off the bat correctly.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 05:02 PM) Anyone hear Williams quotes concerning this trade? ESPN had a quick segment from him where he said CF is the easiest of the positions to field. There's something wrong with someone who belives that. And no, I don't believe he was "purposely doing this to deceive the media" or any other excuse some of you may come up with. Depends on your perspective. It's easier because you get a more true read on the ball. Balls hit to center tend to be hit straigher with less spin. Balls hit to right or left tend to have more spin and will hook or slice more. With how hard the MLB players hit the ball, that spin causes a great deal of movement. On the other hand the CF needs to cover more ground and needs to get a better jump. So as a great philosopher once said "it is true, from a certain point of view."

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 11:02 AM) The M's have really hurt John in the past. It's really about time for John to show them what's up. I thought we were playing the twins again not the Mariners.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 04:40 PM) I have a feeling we're going to be big time Furcal players in Free Agency. Furcal and Alexei is slick in the IF. Alexei will be at SS next year. If furcal agrees to play 2B it could be possible but that's as likely as Griffey will win the GG is CF this year.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 01:08 PM) Have you actually seen Lannan? Because I just can't full believe that Richard has better stuff than him, not when Lannan has an ERA in the low 3's. Even in a pitcher's park and in the NL, that's still a damn good ERA. "Stuff" does not make a pitcher. Take MLB results over stuff. Although, Lannan did his work in the NL so I'm not sure how that would equate to the AL. The deal would depend on the other pieces.

QUOTE (Jimbo's Drinker @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 10:52 AM) ESPN News its on...they are panning the sox using Grif in CF. According to them the sox are possibly finishing the season in forth place behind the Royals. If you look at the comments before the season.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 08:34 AM) Andruw Jones says hi I think there was a different reason for that one (chemical) which I don't think is involved with PK. He could be washed up but I think it's unlikely.

QUOTE (quickman @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 08:12 AM) this whole thign is becuase konerko is washed up. If konerko was hitting this would never happen. Konerko is done. Konerko is not washed up. I think he is still hurt and you'll see him go on the DL when this deal goes through. You don't see a drop off like this at 32.

QUOTE (tommy @ Jul 26, 2008 -> 11:38 AM) inflammation of the posterior of his right shoulder - does anyone know if that's serious or will he be back in 15 days throwing strikes? I assume the inflammation is in the rotator cuff. That's usually where it is. If that's the case it is a waste basket term for "well there's a problem but we can't pin point it." MR scans will show any fluid as white. It can find a large tear in the rotator cuff but not small ones or undersurface ones. The MR probably showed a little fluid and that's why they are saying inflammation. It's a good sign in that nothing major was found. Hopefully, he'll get this break and not have one of his post-ASB disasters. i haven't heard anything definite so I'm betting that's what it is. 15 days should calm down the inflammation. He will then need to work back some strength.

Some of my professional credentials Part Time Air Traffic Controller (actually its Physical Therapist, Athletic Trainer Certified but the other sounds better)

QUOTE (smalls2598 @ Jul 10, 2008 -> 08:37 AM) Isn't Hawk the one who nicknamed Barry Jones the Vulture? Or did Jones have that nickname before coming to the Sox? The original "Vulture" was a pitcher named Phil Regan. He pitched in relief in the 70's (and 60's I think). Back when the relief pitchers pitched more than one inning and rarely got the win. He had years when he seemed to get these types of wins and was given the nickname due to swooping in and getting the opportunistic win. Hawk did call Barry Jones this as well.

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Jul 9, 2008 -> 11:20 AM) I do not get some of you guys. If you really cannot understand how somebody could be upset when a person he worked with for 3 1/2 years and became close friends with is suddenly and somewhat surprisingly let go then you must have never established any close friendships in your lives. Jose is a professional and he will get over it, but to be upset over it is a natural initial reaction. I think sometimes people forget these players are humans and have actual feelings. I mean some people on here were seriously depressed when Rowand was traded and they never even met the guy. i couldn't agree more. Relationships on baseball teams go very deep. These guys travel together go out to dinner together almost every night on the road. The are together all of the time. While someone compared it to having a co-worker laid off, that is a fair example but it goes much deeper because of all of the time the spend together even after work. Baseball is a game of routines before during and after games. I'm not saying it should be an excuse for a season or multiple starts but I can see it for a day or that start. He needs to put it behind him now.

QUOTE (bighurt4life @ Jul 8, 2008 -> 08:09 PM) To get him PK or Thome would have to be part of the deal and there's no way the braves would take on either of those contracts PK's contract is very reasonable. He is signed for 12 mil per year. If he shows he is heathy he would be a good pickup depending on what else we offer Atlanta. Of course PK is a 10/5 guy so KW couldn't do it without permission.

QUOTE (juddling @ Jul 3, 2008 -> 01:34 PM) Michael Barret Maybe it's payback for the fight he started with AJ...maybe it's just one of those things. Looks like it caught him in the forehead not in the nose so he should be ok Had a soccer player one time collide heads with another player. It was his forehead and when I went to palpate it, it moved like when you push on a ballon. It was one of the more creepy injuries, I've felt. The guy ended up getting a metal screen implanted in his forehead because the bone shattered into too many pieces. He also walked a little crooked after the injury. (just kidding about the last part)

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 3, 2008 -> 04:51 PM) I've feared all day of logging on and seeing title "Bobby Jenks out for season". When I saw the title of this thread, my heart dropped for a second. The reports I've heard say it's near his left scapula. This is a pretty odd injury, if they are truthful. The strain shouldn't take more than a few days to resolve itself.

QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Jul 3, 2008 -> 03:14 PM) Hawk was nothing but respectful of Steve Stone when they were paired together last year. He didnt disagree with him, they shared many stories(even stuff Hawk hadnt talked much about before), and he genuinely appreciated what Stone had to offer. Im not advocating that DJ should be let go or reassigned because I do like him, but I dont think that Hawk and Stone would present an ego war problem That was because it was temporary and on the air. Maybe Hawk has mellowed with age but the behind the scenes issues with Paciorek has always lead me to believe he could not have another strong personality in the booth with him for an extended period of time. And they were a very good pair together.

I'm not sure if there is enough room in a booth for both egos of Hawk and Stone. It should be interesting to see how long it lasts,if it happens. Singleton does a very good job in the studio. It's where he belongs with prepared material at his own pace. He was always a little off beat and slow when reacting to plays on the field. I enjoy Farmer's stories as well as the banter between him and Stone. I will miss the pair. It is much better than what Hawk and stone will be.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 2, 2008 -> 04:35 PM) One. Last. Time. ALEXEI People just don't respect his Russian heritage.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Jul 2, 2008 -> 09:39 AM) Is Ozzie's plan of attack automatically to always sit back and hope for a home run, no matter who is up? This situation has come up so many times recently and it baffles me why we aren't doing some fundamental things. Last night, I think it was 6th inning - JD up with 1st and 2nd nobody out - and then GIDPs. There has to be a better plan of attack for this situation with our atrocious RISP batting average. I think Ozzie is the Venezuelan Earl Weaver. Hopefully we can win as much as they did in their prime.