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QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ May 7, 2008 -> 01:03 AM) A note on Lucy's injury...he's f***ed. But then again, there are team doctors and this is modern medicine. But, with this injury, if it happens once, the likelihood of it happening again increases every time. I would know, it's happened to me 6 times since 2005. If it was a serious dislocation, as it seems to be with him being carted off, he'll be out for a month minimum (meaning he'll have trouble walking), and wont be back to 100% for quite a while. A dislocation of the kneecap will provide no damage to major ligaments, but with each time, it creates tons and tons of micro-tears on the patella ligament connecting it to the thigh and shin as well as some cartilage/meniscus damage, and with that, I find it hard to believe he'll be catching much more. It's a pretty gruesome injury from the outside, but underneath the kneecap sitting on the side of your leg, it isn't too terrible. It's a dull pain when it pops out, but when it snaps back in, often times when the leg is straightened, it is painful as s***. It's nothing compared to Livingston's injury. He literally BROKE his knee. All ligaments torn and kneecap dislocated. I don't recall if there was bones involved though. Lucy's injury is nothing like Livingston's. This is the same as what happened to Jason Campbell of the Redskins. If Lucy does play again, it'll be difficult for him to be a catcher, and he'll definitely need to wear a brace all the time to keep the patella in line as much as possible. Also BearSox, if it did pop back in right away (which I doubt since he got carted off), it could reduce the time to about 2-3 weeks. This is what happened to me the last time I dislocated it. I was playing basketball, got a rebound, then landed on my teammates foot and twisted awkwardly. Luckily, with my step, it popped back in, thus only making me "immobile" for about a week and a half to 2 weeks. This happened nearly a month ago, and I'm ok for physical activity now but I'm still not 100%. The patellar ligament (tendon) can get stretched but it's rare that the meniscal cartilage is damaged. Those tissues are between the femur and the tibia as cushions. The hyaline cartilage which covers the joint surfaces of bone can get damaged on the back of the patella. This is referred to as chondromalaicia or softening of the hyaline cartilage. His future as catcher will depend on the damage to each. Whenever this happens to someone they will cart him off in preparation for healing regardless if it pooped back to position or not so I wouldn't read too much into that.

Dislocating the patella (kneecap) is not as serious as it sounds. I didn't see the injury but generally all of the major ligaments are intact and the patella slides off the lateral (outside) of the knee. It can spontaneously pop right back in as someone mentioned earlier. I don't know if this is the case or not. It is worse if it stayed out. The major concern here is the rupturing of the medial structures that hold the patella in place including the muscles. Surgery tends not to help this problem as attempting to reattach these structures is like tying pieces of spaghetti together. The most common form of treatment is to brace it and hopefully the structures will heal tightly on thier own. He will most likely be out for the year. The immobilization period is a minimum of 6-8 weeks but probably longer. He will probably always wear a brace to hold the patella in line. The problem is that the patella needs to move up and down when you bend your knee, especially true for a catcher) so the braces aren't always very effect. His career as a catcher is in jeopardy but I wouldn't rule it out, especially if he has the work ethic that someone stated earlier.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 1, 2008 -> 10:54 AM) If Buehrle gets hit around, you leave him in there until he throws 110-120 pitches. And then you tell him to start throwing with his right hand. If the Sox are down by 9, they odds of them coming back are like 50:1; you may as well just throw Buehrle until he's fatigued and let him get through 5-6 innings, even if he gives up 12 runs. Past that, there will always be a starter who is on his throwing day - have him come in and get some work done in the game rather than on the side. Not really a huge deal if you ask me. They aren't going to risk an arm they just signed to a long term deal who hasn't been thorwing very well anyway. This scenario will not play out.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 09:58 PM) back problems are something that generally sticks with a person for most of their life. With the type of surgery he had and if he really follows the rehab, which by all indications he does, he probably has 4-6 good years with the back while playing baseball. He will have problems and will need some time off for inflammation but I wouldn't chance a 5 year deal with him, but I'm biased and don't think very many long term deals are a good idea. Edit: The next contract will not be with the White Sox.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 24, 2008 -> 07:37 PM) After seeing Floyd struggle with the Yankees due to their patience, I'm still baffled as to why we set our rotation so that Buehrle wouldn't face the Yankees. I think there is a little problem with MB's shoulder. They've been skipping him using the "keep his innings down" excuse. And I've noticed he lowers his arm angle a bit which is common with shoulder impairments. I don't know if it's serious but I wouldn't be surprised if we hear more about it this year.

QUOTE (DBAH0 @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 09:35 PM) Broadway simply got people's hopes up after his start at the end of last season. He wasn't a good pick at that spot, and that's been established. I think for an NL Team he could certainly be a back end starter in a rotation, but I don't think he's going to have that chance here unless something happens. I don't think that's been established. If he becomes an effective MLB starting pitcher is it a poor pick?

QUOTE (Gakman23 @ Apr 21, 2008 -> 03:32 PM) Fox power rankings Looks like people are starting to realize this is a good baseball team. This is good since most people on this board don't realize it.

QUOTE (WSoxMatt @ Apr 20, 2008 -> 05:45 PM) All these guys struggling and yet we are in 1st place...ths baseball season has started well!! Don't you know that wins and loses aren't important stats. There are many others that are more important.

Ivan Calderon (RIP) Dan Pasqua, Salome Barojas, Warren Newson, Wilson Alvarez, Dave Gallagher Some my favorites from times gone by Edit: forgot million dollar Floyd (Bannister)

QUOTE (Wedge @ Apr 9, 2008 -> 04:22 PM) dumb question: can I hear sox games on the Score website? I believe mlb has exclusive rights for broadcasts over the internet. Edit: Dang beat me by a few seconds

Thanks to everyone who updates the affiliates' performance each day. I enjoy reading the summaries and keeping up with the prospects.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Apr 8, 2008 -> 12:19 PM) I think a better measure of success using K's is to compare how many K's to BB's a pitcher has. Then have a glance over at their ERA. I agree. K/BB ratio is the better measure than just K isolated or K/9inn. I think K/BB is important for the hitter also. For example, Thome Ks alot but offsets it with BB. Fields doesn't have the BB to go with the K and will struggle at times.

QUOTE (Texsox @ Apr 8, 2008 -> 10:10 AM) I would never use wiki as a cited source, but I do look at the discussion pages and their sources for good ideas. Usually credibility is just two clicks away. I've given students failing grades on papers a few years ago for inaccurate information with wikipedia as sources. I now tell them if it's referenced as a source they will fail. The best source of information is primary research anyway not research cited in another report.

QUOTE(robinventura23 @ Apr 7, 2008 -> 02:12 PM) That's great and also kinda funny, considering McDonough came from the Cubs. But grew up a Sox fan.

QUOTE(hi8is @ Apr 7, 2008 -> 11:06 AM) he's one of the only sox on the roster that im extreemly interested in, if only for the fact that i know very little about him i got the basics down, safe bet to translate to a solid everyday pro productive minor league numbers top draft pick yada yada yada but as you guys know, its much different reading about someone and seeing them do their thing this kids has excited me. i wanna see him play until he faulters, and im not sure if he will. No it's not!!!! All you need to do is see their career minor and major league stats. It will tell you everything.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Apr 5, 2008 -> 02:16 AM) I wouldn't be surprised if we did. This was a guy who wasn't the strongest mentally (he almost called it quits after his first taste of the big leagues). And then after KW says Fields would start and Crede would be traded earlier in the offseason, Kw sends Fields down and has Crede start. Also, Fields had a very good rookie season to build off of, and out preformed Crede in ST, yet he gets sent down. That's not what KW said. KW said that Crede and Fields will not be on the same team. We all assumed that meant Crede would be traded and it looks like he tried. Fields has always been a strikeout waiting to happen. Maybe he is depressed a bit which he should be and doesn't have the focus right now. That's understandable however he needs to pull himself out of it. He needs to be tough mentality for dealing with the tough times in the majors as well. Maybe this will get him some good experience with dealing with dissappointment because other than the strikeouts he hasn't had much difficulty in the minors.

QUOTE(daa84 @ Apr 4, 2008 -> 11:10 AM) i really liked it at the time of the trade because i thought danks would be just as good as mccarthy, was left handed, and younger, plus KW brain washed us into thinking masset was an impact arm....when i found out masset stinks, i liked the trade less, but the fact that mccarthy has arm problems makes me like the trade alot again.... im not sure if its luck or if the sox (in this aspect) are smarter than other teams, but this team should be commended at their ability to keep their starters healthy....when was the last time we had a starter miss more than a start or two to the DL? i mean last year jose missed a few starts, but for the majority of the year it was buerhle vazquez garland contreras and danks....year before that i dont remember anyone being out for very long, in 05 el duque missed a few starts, but nothing big, in 04 it was buerhle esty/jose, garland, schoenweiss and the black hole that was the 5th starter, which was up for grabs because of performance, not injury....shoney missed some time but thats about it...even in 03 everyone was healthy you have to go back to todd ritchie in 2002 and david wells in 2001 when this team had a serious injury to one of its starters....thats remarkable, and i can say with good certainty that i seriously doubt another team in the majors has had that kind of health in their rotation over the same period......not sure if thats luck, but when you look at the fact that alot of the guys the sox have cut bait with, mccarthy, garcia, colon etc. went on to have arm troubles, herm schneider, KW and the rest of the organization really deserve alot of credit for keeping/recognizing the health of our starters I'm biased as to why they stay healthy but the Sox truly value the opinions of their athletic trainers and work with them extensively in all aspects of training and prevention. They also have an outstanding athletic trainer in Herm Schneider. Again, I'm biased towards the athletic trainers but they continue to get good results.

The biggest problem so far for the hitter is hitting with two outs. Yesterday the Indians had 4 RBI with two outs. We left 4 men in scoring position. Bring up the pressure hitting a little and we're right there. Let's hope they fix it.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Mar 28, 2008 -> 02:24 PM) In terms of the Cortes/Lumsden deal, no matter how much you may dislike MMac, what has happened with those 2 pitchers that has suggested that deal will be a bad one? Cortes had a good year last year, but he's still a 20 year old in High A ball, and we've had an awful lot of jokes made here the last year or so about trading people for A-ball pitchers. And Lumsden had a pretty darn bad year last year as a 24 year old in AAA, put up a 1.7 WHIP or something like that. Can I nominate the Sammy Sosa for George Bell trade as a good one simply because it produced a dramatic reduction in the amount of used needles and cork in the White Sox locker room? Actually I like MacDougal. He has good and bad times but overall I think his is good for the team. But as I stated I dislike any trade where multiple young pitchers leave. Pitching is just too valuable.

for good Lamar Hoyt for Ozzie Guillen Luis Salazar and a relief pitcher Tim....(Studdard maybe?) Harold Baines (although he is one of my all time favorites) and Fred Manrique for Sammy Sosa, Wilson alavrez, Scott Fletcher and I think Wayne Tolleson For Bad Daniel Cortes and Tyler Lumnsden for Mike MacDougal. I really dislike dealing two young pitchers in any deal. Todd Ritchie although we didn't lose much we traded two pitchers again

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Mar 27, 2008 -> 02:43 PM) This is why anesthesiologists are paid the big bucks. When you're put under, you're essentially in a controlled coma. For all the surgeries/procedures which happen ever day using anesthesia, this is obviously a rarity. I just know I've never been comfortable with it. When I had my wisdom teeth pulled several years ago, I neglected to use local anesthesia and underwent the most painful moment of my life. It was excruciating, even with novocaine. The reason I avoided it was several years earlier, when I had broken my hand playing football and had to have several bones realligned, I was put under and felt terrible for several days afterwards. Headache, vomiting, feeling extremely weak. The head physician believed my body simply didn't respond well to it. Most people don't, which is why I'll always avoid anesthesia if at all possible. And have the highest malpractice insurance rates.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Mar 27, 2008 -> 09:17 PM) Since it's kind of on topic, I've been in my current position for two years, but tomorrow morning will be interviewing for the "next step" which will be a much more lucrative option and also 5 minutes away from home vs. the 45 I drive each way now. Some one, for the love of God, wish me a bunch of luck! :headbang Good Luck is always needed with interviews. :headbang

After a heavy night of drinking at a bar, went by some bushes to relieve myself before getting into a car (was not driving). After I started I heard Hey!! from the other side. A cop was sitting with a radar gun timing people and calling ahead to a squad waiting. I literally pissed on his back. The rest of the night didn't go so well.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Mar 26, 2008 -> 09:49 PM) If Ozuna starts at 2b on opening day and Quentin plays LF, the 3 hottest hitters in spring training, Uribe, Anderson and Ramirez all will be riding pine. That's pretty strange, but not as strange as seeing Nick Swisher in CF and BA in LF on occassion. That's just ridiculous. I am glad Swisher is leading off though. The more guys on base for Thome and Konerko and Dye, the better. Since Swisher's main quality for getting on base is walking and he doesn't run real well, there will be a lot of double plays from those three. Other than the 30-40 times out of 600 they hit the ball out of the park.

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