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No doubt.

True. It could also be that they rushed them back. FO and managers get impatient.

Just because someone gets injured again does not mean they came back too soon in any injury. For pitchers, if they don't make an adjustment in mechanics that caused the injury, there is a high probability another injury occurs. They may try to change but if the pitch doesn't move the same or it's not comfortable, they don't change. Buehler talks about this in that article. Only after the second one is he willing to modify his mechanics. In position players a joint injury may be because they are too loose or muscle injury may be because they were too tight. both could be caused be muscle imbalances. The player needs to modify the root cause of the injury not just rehab the result. Unfortunately, too many don't carry it through.

Sounds familiar

Article in the Athletic about Walker Buehler returning to pitching less than 12 months after surgery. This is his second UCL reconstruction. The Sox aren't the only organization to look at this timeline, the dodgers did it.

They may as well try for individual accomplishments, the team is going nowhere.

I wasn't comparing the Sox and Cubs attendance. Just showing that even the Cubs attendance is predicated on winning. Never said the Sox would win next year. Only said that all of the factors you stated really won't change the attendance. Only winning or losing really changes attendance.

It will increase if they win. decrease if they lose. All of the rest of it really doesn't matter in the big picture for attendance. Everyone hated what the the Ricketts did with Marquee and some said they wouldn't go because of politics. They have started winning, attendance is up.

For cash? Now they are spending money!

True, the mortality rate is much lower. However, what the treatments do to the body when preparing for a baseball season is an unknown.

Very true. It didn't start in December. Also, there aren't many rehab protocols for a pitcher recovering from oncology treatment who has a 4 year history of a partially torn UCL.

I disagree. In the clubhouses I've been in the GMs ways had a spy (Boston) and they knew exactly what was happening. In today's game the GMs have even more influence.

The real question is has he been allowed to do what he wants with the team and rules. Like every other aspect we discussed here, no one makes the decisions in isolation.

The financial approach will never change. JR is set on staying under the luxury tax. He doesn't like the league of "he who has the most money wins." He's repeatedly said that is the issue with baseball. No competitive, cost controlled balance.

This makes sense. All the other stuff around it will be the interesting part.

What's there to spin. Player wanted to leave early. FO said no. Player complained and another player took offense to the complaining of wanting to leave team. All was handled in house until someone leaked it to the media.

He's not wrong here though. Probably a better way to confront Grandal though.

Sounds like they've gone too far the other way.

I agree. But they need to come up with the rules then. Do they outlaw facial hair and have a strict dress code? Does everyone have the exact same drills and stretching requirements or is it individualized?

I agree. Its where you draw the line that is difficult to figure out. It's somewhere between Not having facial hair and not sleeping in the pen. But again if they were winning no one would care. So what level of the rules make a winning team?

This is a good point. How much is personal development and how much is situational development. I could see the Sox philosophy in the low minors but you would think by the time they hit AA, that should start to change.

He's right. No one was complaining about his 2 years ago when they one 90 games. Does not having facial hair make you a better player? Or do all players need to be accountable for themselves? Or is it somewhere in the middle? I know in higher education this is a significant struggle right now. Are they adults or do we treat them like Kindergarten and have rules for everything.

Looking at the ACL stats, I see Krogman as a LHP. Wasn't there an OF that was Krogman. Did he switch to pitching?

A short time ago everyone loved his attitude he brought to the game.

I stand corrected. I missed all of the posts praising the FO anf their work.