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Until he took that line drive in chest, he was doing an acceptable job as a 5th starter. Afterwards, he never could get back to that level.

QUOTE(chisox2334 @ Dec 17, 2005 -> 01:31 AM) who knows what happened with vasquez and houstion situation. Their all speculaing and ya sure does seem odd accept our deal then theirs The DBacks made the offer to the Stros, therefore they didn't turn down the Lidge deal and accept ours.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Dec 17, 2005 -> 12:18 AM) Dude, I was just kidding. I thought it would be too obvious lol. I thought it was long odds, but somebody had to end up with it.

John Kass' trophy experience. The Precious

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 10:01 PM) I consider myself blessed, of all the possible numbers, I recieved none other than 2005. That was supposed to be mine! Edit: #7238

QUOTE(Mplssoxfan @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 08:05 PM) Fast as all hell, couldn't hit his hat size. Geoff Blum. OK, Rodney McCray. Wasn't he the guy that ran through the wall in the minors?

QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 12:22 PM) If they can get one more Arm in their Rotation.. It would be nice chance, I see them in 07 making a run, this year with that " rookie" INF.. They are going to struggle a tad. I still think they Finish 2nd unless Houston gets some offense. They, along with Houston and St. Louis, will rule the NL central. The rest will battle for 4th place.

QUOTE(bmags @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 12:26 PM) sure yes, tea and cake, i realize this is all fun off season speculation, but i don't think that the orioles would WANT to trade the best SS in the game right now unless he threatens not to play, and from the sounds of it, he was just saying he wants to win. Now i realize they need pitching, but they also need marketing and such and such and angelos is a bottom line type o fella and with the nationals looking better and better, he might be worried about losing some of the marketability, scumbag he is. So all i'm saying, is compared to other trades, this really seems crackpot to me at the time. Although i was a part of chaveztalk.com And with that, your credibilty is shot.

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 12:18 PM) I heard the Cardinals job was his dream job. Is he from the St. Louis area? If they offered Rooney the same money in Chicago, he'd be there, imho.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 12:17 PM) The Brewers have a legitimate shot at winning the NL Central next year. True. I'd rethink the previous comment about the Brewers. They will have to dealt with soon, if not in '06.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 12:08 PM) The new Cardinals station and the Score, the White Sox new station are owned by the same parent company. So why the hell couldn't they pay John Rooney the same money to do the Sox games that they are paying him to do the Cards games?

I was a child that his mouth taped shut, in a public school no less. I'm just stating that for the record. However, as a parent, I ran into a situation. When one of my boys was in grade school, I was told that if he acted up again he would receive corporal punishment. I proceeded to tell the principal that was not acceptable. All they had to do was call me and I would handle any situation. I was told that if they felt the situation called for immediate corporal punishment they would administer it. I then proceeded to inform the principle that if my child was given corporal punshment that I would administer corpaoral punishment to the person who took it upon theirself to assualt my child. In other words, I'd beat the hell out of whoever it was. I was told that if I took such action, that I would be thrown in jail and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I responded that may the case, but I'll still get my pound of flesh and whatever happens to me, happens. The issue never came up again.

QUOTE(bmags @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 11:52 AM) haha, no no, but still, i don't think he'd lie and say "when he talked to me he said he wanted to stay" when tejada could easily dispute that What if Tejada said that he wanted to stay if this and if that. Then you could say Tejada said he wanted to stay.

QUOTE(valponick @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 11:44 AM) Again, just asanine. My view of Miguel Tejada has nothing to do with me being a White Sox fan. There are a ton of people out there who disagree with me but why start attacking me as a Sox fan. You're a mod right? Joke. You're a baseball fan, right? Joke.

QUOTE(bmags @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 11:41 AM) i think theres a bit of a difference between the O's (whom i'd consider to be someone from the front office) and the players. Point taken. Now then, if you had just signed a multiyear contract with the O's, would you want to see Tejada traded?

QUOTE(valponick @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 11:40 AM) Sorry, next time I post something I will check with you to make sure you agree with it. just try something ... anything ... that shows even a sliver of intelligence.

QUOTE(valponick @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 11:40 AM) Please. I've been a Sox fan for 25 years, the fact that you bring up the Cubs is just asanine. You may be a Sox fan, but it's to the shame of the rest of us.

I appreciate intelligent baseball discussions. But this is pure unadulterated horses***.

QUOTE(valponick @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 11:35 AM) You were done a long time ago. become a Cub fan. you sound like one.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 11:34 AM) Someone should close this thread. We are all probably losing brain cells from reading it. Helluvan idea!

QUOTE(valponick @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 11:31 AM) Everyone is an MVP candidate, so I guess you're right. You don't know what the hell you're talking about. This is the most ridiculous discussion in Soxtalk history. I'm done.

QUOTE(valponick @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 11:29 AM) It's not so valuable that we need to give up a considerably better defensive SS, a starting pitcher and another top prospect (which was the deal being discussed here which everyone was saying they'd do in a heartbeat)....why give that up for production we don't need and to weaken our defense? No, Uribe is not "considerably batter". Tejada's a very good defensive SS in his right.

How the hell can a guy who recently won an MVP award not be an MVP candidate? Un f***ing believable!

QUOTE(valponick @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 11:25 AM) Don't get hung up on the SS argument, I was simply saying he wasn't a top tier hitter like everyone here thinks he is. Don't get hung up? Do you realize how valuable that kind of production from the SS position is? Cheese us key riste!

QUOTE(valponick @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 11:21 AM) Explain. How many teams can claim they get 107 rbi per year from their shortstop?