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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 26, 2009 -> 02:12 PM) I was talking to a guy at work a couple of days ago and we were remarking about how Norm really hadn't been looking good lately. Yeah that's certainly possible and I didn't notice, I am in and out during the pre and post game shows in terms of watching. What a shame he's gone.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 25, 2009 -> 06:10 PM) 1 playoff series win and presumably 4 playoff births if they make it this year though right? Correct, but this isn't baseball. Just making the playoffs means something in baseball, but not so much in basketball where just over half the teams make it every year.

He apparently had been in failing health. I had no idea, he has been in the studio with Kendall Gill most of the season, and even very recently, seeming to be fine.

Wow that's awful news, RIP. We can only hope Johnny Red isn't next, and that his health improves. I agree with you though kyyle, Norm should have been at Red's ceremony.

To me, the analysis of John Paxson's tenure here is pretty simple. I think we can all agree that even if the Bulls make the playoffs, they will lose in the first round to one of the east powers. Assuming that to be accurate, at the end of this year, John Paxson will have been GM here for 6 seasons (he was hired shortly after Jerry Krause's resignation following the 2003 season) and his teams will have won one playoff series. I understand he inherited a mess, but the interited mess he had to deal with has been cleaned up for a long time, and one playoff series win in six seasons is unacceptable, especially for a franchise like the Bulls.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Feb 25, 2009 -> 11:37 AM) Truthfully, if the roles were reversed, and Obama gave a suck speech and Jindal rocked the house, the reaction would be the same, and that's more my point. Well this is definitely 100 percent true. That's why ignoring the media when gathering an opinion on something is essential.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Feb 25, 2009 -> 11:23 AM) Now of course, Obama's speech is the second coming of the almighty, and the response is a turd GOP response. It's always that way, isn't it? *yawn* Note: I'm not stating my opinion, I'm stating the responses to both. This is how the media responds to everything, and usually it's laughably biased and wrong. But last night, I think this is about what happened. Obama gave what I thought was a very good speech (and this is only the 2nd speech of all the many speeches I've watched him give that I actually thought was very good contentwise,) and Jindal gave a very poorly delivered speech with hot plate points and no new ideas. I ripped Obama throughout the campaign because his speeches had very little content, and what content they had has just hot plate points. Last night, I thought Obama gave a speech with some actual interesting ideas, and Jindal didn't really have any new ideas or anything resembling that at all. I voted 80 percent Republican in the voting booth last November, but I can't just lie about what I saw last night.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Feb 25, 2009 -> 11:05 AM) I really don't think it's fair to compare someone's speaking ability to Obama's though. Who DOES compare to Obama's speaking ability, right now? My thoughts on Obama's speech had nothing to do with his speaking ability, which I pretty much ignore when watching him speak. I thought the content of his speech was actually very, very good for once. The only time I pay attention to speaking ability is if I thought it was really bad, and Jindal fell into that category, which is bad because the content of his speech was also very bland and unoriginal.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Feb 25, 2009 -> 10:14 AM) For those who havent seen it Last night was a really bad night for the GOP in my not so educated opinion. I thought that was the best speech I have seen Obama give at any point in time, and Jindal's response, particularly the way in which he delivered it, was not very good. I am not exactly feeling good about admitting that, but I have to be honest and call it like I see it. I thought (and have mentioned on these boards as much) that Jindal was the leader for the 2012 nomination, but I sure as hell hope I'm wrong after watching the presentation of that speech. He seemed to be talking down to his audience, said very little in terms of detail or new ideas the GOP has, and almost appeared to not watch Obama's speech. I know the response is written ahead of time based on exerts from the original speech, but the response felt almost random and unrelated to what Obama said.

The hardest thing to get a blue chip basketball recruit to do is play defense, and Ohio State has a lot of guys that were such recruits in high school. If any team in the Big 10 were to be a candidate to be a poor defensive team, Ohio State is it.

QUOTE (Texsox @ Feb 25, 2009 -> 10:53 AM) Hell, I've booed guys on the current roster, so I would not have any problems booing when deserved. But I would offer a nice applause when appropriate. He deserves applause his first at bat back at The Cell for what he did in his Sox career here (although nothing like what Frank got), but after that, he's just another player and should be treated as such. Actually, he should be treated a little worse than any other player for that matter because he's on the Twins. He's not a White Sox anymore, so you shouldn't cheer him anymore outside of the respectful one before his first at bat, and he's a Twin, so you shouldn't like him. If this is a difficult concept to grasp, I'm sorry but it shouldn't be. I have a special place for the 2005 team in my heart, but life goes on and players move on and we have to move on as fans.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Feb 25, 2009 -> 10:08 AM) Has anyone seen Colon take long toss? Its not your average joe throwing from left field to RF. I remember sitting in my old seats in the bleachers watching Bartolo play long toss from left to right center and the ball never got higher than his head. It was a laser. I remember sitting down the line in left field for a game in 2003 and seeing this, it was the most incredible display of arm strength I've ever seen in a game of long toss.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Feb 25, 2009 -> 01:43 AM) We always discuss this type thing. He'll get cheered the first time then after that nothing. Nobody will boo the guy unless that person is a drunken buffoon. World Series' come once in a lifetime around here and he helped us get one. Think of how f***ing tough it is to win a World Series especially competing against Boston and NY who spend. Face facts. We may or may not win another one in our lifetimes. Joe helped us win one. He gets cheered once, ignored the rest of his at bats with those f***ing bums. I'll cheer him his first at bat back if i'm at the game, and after that, I'll have NO problem booing him (although I won't go out of my way to do it, I'll treat him like any other opposing player). Sorry, but I root for the names on the front of the jerseys and not the back, and thus he's now the enemy and scum in my mind.

QUOTE (DBAHO @ Feb 25, 2009 -> 10:42 AM) To be fair, Paxson may have saved his job with the Miller and Salmons trade. If that could be proven as true, then I wish the trades would have never happened. This team is still nowhere near winning a championship, and will still have to either trade Hinrich or let Gordon go to have enough room just to make a run at a 2010 guy. Paxson is still a bad GM, even with those trades.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Feb 25, 2009 -> 02:55 AM) The tone around here has changed dramatically of late. Does everyone still want John Paxson fired yesterday? Or did all it take was a decent 12-game stretch to get everybody giddy? No change here, Hinrich still should have been traded and Paxson still should be fired. Me thinking those things doesn't mean I'm not going to root for the Bulls though or change the fact that I hope the trades work out.

QUOTE (daa84 @ Feb 23, 2009 -> 04:47 PM) when the sox drop 2 of 3 to the yankees, while the cubs sweep the pirates...and all your cub fan friends give you crap for it...youll be back in here That won't happen though. They realize the regular season is meaningless now after what happened last year. When you haven't won in 101 years, it's title or bust. I will get annoyed at the Sox I'm sure, but I won't be in here much until/unless they get hot in October. Rooting against the Cubs is like rooting against the Washington Generals when they play the Harlem Globetrotters, just too easy to be fun anymore.

The Bulls are such an up and down team, very odd to watch. Hopefully they stablize a bit with the trades and can play a bit more consistent.

Ugh, what an awful collapse that was in the 3rd. The Hawks just seem to be owned by certain teams, like Nashville, Detroit, St. Louis, and Minnesota.

Michigan State at #9 is a bigger joke than Missouri at #8. However, Memphis at #4 is a borderline travestyshamockery. That is inexcuseable on the voters part.

I find it interesting that Bill Self and Bruce Weber are both legitimate national coach of the year candidates right now (although my vote would go to Mike Anderson at Mizzou right now due to Dino Gaudio and Wake Forest's struggles recently, with Brad Stevens at Butler and Trent Johnson at LSU also in the discussion.)

I haven't posted in here yet, so I will do it now. Boo, Cubs suck, I hate them. Actually, a lot of my Cub hate has died since October. Not all of it, but a lot of it. So I won't be in here as much this year as I was in the past. At least not until this October comes around, at which point if we're out of it and they are in the playoffs, I might go back to venom of past years. But during the regular season, I probably won't be in here as much. Carry the torch though, traditonal posters of this thread!

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Feb 23, 2009 -> 01:27 PM) Oh no, Keynesian is the only way to go. The government is the only thing big enough to save us to keep us from going into a deflationary cycle we can't get out of. Is that right, Balta? On a sadder note, stay classy Jim Bunning With comments like those, he might as well have gone all out, thrown on a party hat, and said "I hope she dies soon so I can try and promote the cause of a neocon to replace her."

The Dow is down a little more than 200 points right now. It's down to numbers not seen this decade, and is down just about a full 50 percent from where it was when it reached an all time high less than a year and a half ago. Yay.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Feb 23, 2009 -> 10:54 AM) With Nicks running a 4.49 its very unlikely he will be available at the Bears 2nd round pick. As the draft seems to breaking down most of the Bears needs wont be the BPA at their picks. I disagree with the bolded simply because the Bears have needs at almost every position on the field right now, which is amazing to say after a respectable season like they had last year, but is still true in my opinion. What position do the Bears NOT need something right now? Even with Forte at running back, they could use another guy or Forte will be worn out of the league within a few years. And at linebacker, where their two "best" players are in Briggs and Urlacher (who is clearly on the downside of his career now), they really have no depth and last year, not much of a 3rd starter. At cornerback, Nathan Vasher is coming off a major injury and some people want Peanut to move to safety. The Bears depth chart is really a big black hole right now, and in retrospect the coaching staff might have done well to get as much as they did out of this team last season.