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Yea Semien has come down to earth hard. Down to a 118 wRC+ and 1.0 fWAR on the year. He's lost like .7fWAR in the past two weeks. I'm still not convinced he's a MLB infielder, let alone a SS.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 12:57 PM) There is way too much tin foil in that post for me. Unless they could connect back to the higher ups in the organization, there is no point in giving them a penalty. Do teams get an additional penalty when someone tests positive for steroids? No. The penalty of suspension is enough. Same thing here. The real damage wasn't even through any official sanction but all the whispers from the buscones about the unscrupulous Sox.

Until I see a Sox position player, home grown, put up more than 2 fWAR in a season, I don't care how highly the farm system is ranked. Produce wins at the MLB level, that is the point of the farm system -- not winning prospect rankings. And the premise of this thread -- a Dayton Moore book -- is laughable. Moore is a bottom 1/3 GM, that his Royals club took advantage of the new playoff rules to squeak into a WS says little if anything about his prowess in evaluating "the will to win". I think it's more "suck for almost a decade, reap the top 5 picks, and eventually enough will come through". I agree with Dick here, quoting Moore as an authority on team building is absurd.

lol, here come the "Danks is turning a corner!" folks. It's like the sun coming up. We'll see if he can continue a 100% strand rate the next time he gives up 10 hits. Come on folks, he is what his last 500 post injury innings say he is -- a .5 WAR starter.

QUOTE (bmags @ May 31, 2015 -> 03:39 PM) Also, I frankly like the "I don't know what I'm talking about STeve, so why don't you explain this a bit more" schtick. I liked when he challenged STone on the Batting Average, it was an interesting exchange. I have started counting the number of times Hawk talks over Stone during the game. It's usually at least once per inning. Stone is too nice of a guy to stop him. Hawk needs to go, ASAP.

QUOTE (kev211 @ May 31, 2015 -> 03:32 PM) Chuck and stone are very enjoyable to listen to. Chuck is a great pro. I'm liking him more and more . Swirsky is in his 50's but compared to Hawk he's a spring chicken. Nice to see some youthful energy in the booth.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ May 30, 2015 -> 06:04 PM) +1 The list of grievances against Robin is greater then the number of runs this team scores in a week. Bad Baserunning over his tenure is just one of many. Playing LaRoche against so many LHP is another

wow.

Had a really long ass day at work, was f***ing 82 and humid in Seattle today and my shop was hot as balls (not used to heat anymore at all living here) and come home to this s***. At least I got about 8 good beers and some company later on. Sox aren't doing it for me. Have a good one guys, maybe this ship will turn around, probably f***ing not.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 29, 2015 -> 10:43 PM) I'm with ya, give me a min. Let's go tandem. I'm ready

time to slam a beer.

PLAY LAROCHE AT 1B. God damn just accept the f***ing DH penalty with Jose. He's not going to play 150+ games as an everyday 1B anyways in a few years.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ May 29, 2015 -> 09:19 PM) He took a lot of walks in the minors, why didn't that translate to the majors? Probably because MLB pitchers can challenge him with a fastball and blow it by him. As mentioned, he's a total guess hitter as well so not going to take many walks when you can't recognize a breaking ball.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ May 29, 2015 -> 07:30 PM) 5th*** haha, f***, for some reason I mentally inserted La Roche into the 5th spot. Even better.

Ramirez batting 6th, a traditional RBI spot, LMAO. Pathetic. This is a boring, boring team. Thank goodness Rodon is up and adding some spice.

So, whatsup with Avi? Seems this was handled poorly.

If the Sox don't start winning more games, Sale is going to be the first guy to ask out IMO. I would honestly consider trading him to the Red Sox at the deadline this year. Hahn could get likely a king's ransom from them if they are a couple back in July. Start with Mookie Betts and go from there.

Many fans feel the positional adjustments for WAR are too extreme, here's some new data suggesting that yes, that is true: http://www.hardballtimes.com/re-examining-...nsive-spectrum/

That is a Orwellian double speak SouthSider2k. Thibs was the head of his department including on how minutes were distributed. Then he wasn't, once GarPax got pissed and hired Jen. So, you're the boss, until you're not. There's no chain of command, well there is, but it's a "circle" at the top with JR, Hahn and KW. He runs the Bulls the same way. He needs to stop meddling.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ May 29, 2015 -> 01:50 PM) How do you guys have so much insight into how well the White Sox internal chain of command works? Are you all ex-employees or something? here's a very candid look into how a JR FO works, from the statement on Thibs: It's a joke, you can't run franchises like this. GarPax is a laughingstock around the NBA despite many good draft picks, because of how obviously strained the relationship between Gar and Paxson is. Powerful men don't like to form consensus with "interdepartmental input". This isn't Google or Facebook, it's a sports franchise. One guy should be making the final call, yes he can take input from those below him but it's a tyranny of one, not a "consensus of information" or whatever mumble jumble JR uses.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 29, 2015 -> 02:13 PM) You think the Epstein operates without going to the Ricketts family? No way. Why do you keep bringing up how the Cubs do things? We're talking about the White Sox and how whatever the hell they are doing on the South Side has led to one of the worst 30 year stretches in club history outside of 2005 when almost everything broke their way. Whatever they are doing isn't working. Try something new.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 29, 2015 -> 02:09 PM) And JR has final say. And that's a problem. It's reality, but it's a problem. The owner should hire his people at let them work without interference. The idea that Hahn has to sit down with JR and KW before signing someone strikes me as absurd. Just give him a budget and get out of the way.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 29, 2015 -> 01:55 PM) Do you honestly think Theo Epstein has no input on the Cubs decision making process? The question isn't that at all. The question is "who has final say"? I guarantee you that it's not Jed Hoyer. Hoyer works the phones I'm sure and does other duties but the executive at the top is Epstein. It's a traditional org chart. The Sox have more of a triangle it seems at the top with JR, Hahn and KW all making inputs. That isn't going to work.

QUOTE (ptatc @ May 29, 2015 -> 01:49 PM) I don't think it matters. I know most people want to blame a person. They feel better if they can point to a single person for their anger/frustration. It's human nature, especially in this generation, to want to point fingers at a person. I would say "front office" and hold the entire group responsible as it is most likely group decisions. I'm trying to think of a single successful MLB franchise that has such decision making process. I agree that most likely it is a "group decision" and that is not how to do things IMO. You need one guy and everyone else lines up behind him.

QUOTE (Jake @ May 29, 2015 -> 01:40 PM) If you want to point a finger at somebody for why we aren't having a good year, the finger should point at Rick Hahn. I wouldn't necessarily endorse firing Hahn, either, but the players just aren't very good. He was aggressive in the offseason but there was too far to go. The team has the talent to compete, but we were always going to have to get lucky. We haven't gotten lucky. Some of the players that are normally not that good are once again not that good. Big shock, Tyler Flowers, Geo Soto, Conor Gillaspie, Emilio Bonifacio, John Danks, Hector Noesi, etc. aren't kicking ass out there. Good post but how much of this "aggression" was KW and JR and how much of it was Hahn? It's too bad we have little clue of how the decisionmaking process works. From the JR statement on Thibs it seems he tries to some "decision by consensus" that rarely, if ever works. I would just broom the entire FO outside of Hahn, let him hire his own people, give him a 3 year window, and see what happens.