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QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Sep 9, 2015 -> 03:19 PM) I'm a huge advanced stats guy and while Samardzija may have been a tad bit unlucky (though as you say his FIP still isn't good), that only really matters in projecting his future production, which hopefully won't be with us. Unlucky or not, he gave up all those runs, and so EJ doesn't really have that high of a bar to reach for next season if he wants to replace that "production". Yep good point. Those runs count whether they were lucky or not. Well put Omar you brought the shutgun .

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Sep 9, 2015 -> 03:08 PM) I don't want to know what 3/4 the production of a 4.87 ERA is, but I hope Johnson can do much better than that. Well according to the batted ball stats Sharks' been a little unlucky on his HR/FB rate and strand rate. That said, his xFIP is still a very pedestrian 4.22. I reconsider. Johnson can give you 100% of 2015 Shark at 1/10 or less of the cost. Shark has been s***. He's really a symbol of the failed offseason and season.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Sep 9, 2015 -> 03:28 PM) I know the QO is based on the average salary of the top 125 salaries so maybe Levine has been doing some math in his free time. If so, I have to give Levine some credit but it would have been nice if he had mentioned how he came up with the number. 17.1M does not sound like too big of a stretch. I think what's important is that Samardzija is still likely to reject the QO which is good news. Time for the Sox and Samardzija to part ways. Hopefully Erik Johnson continues to pitch well during the rest of the season and makes it easier for the SOX to move on. The 4 years 70 million is about what I figured and I also figured Shark would bet on himself (because he's Shark!...) and turn those offers down. Now, if someone gives him 2 years 40 million, he'll probably take it because he can rehab his value and get that "lifetime" 6-8 year deal he no doubt thinks he's worth and covets. Personally I will be pretty miffed if we see Shark next year at 17.1 million. They have other holes that many could go to. Insert Johnson into the rotation he'll give you 3/4 the production most likely at 1/10th the cost.

Great to see Rodon and Trayce play well. Seems like Avi might finish strong as well. Avi has to hit 280 or higher if he's ever going to be a solid starter. I give him a pass this year because of all the time he missed from the injury and even though he got in some games last year a major injury like that isn't easy to overcome. But next year he has to hit 285/335/450 as his defense is what it is at this point.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Sep 4, 2015 -> 01:54 PM) If you can't understand why it's a valuable pick, I can't really help you. I love when people get cocky about stuff they don't understand, it's endearing. if you can't understand simple WAR charts then I can't help you. Most comp picks never even make the MLB. I was wrong: the expected WAR is about 2. It's nothing. It's valuable in aggregate, ie you are getting comp pick after comp pick. In isolation it's nothing. Are the Sox really willing to pay shark around $16 million to get a shot at 2 WAR? I hope not.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Sep 4, 2015 -> 12:48 PM) I think Barnum was their most recent comp round pick. The pick will be higher than where Spencer Adams was actually taken though. It's a very valuable selection. Not really, the expected WAR is about 1. Yes maybe the Sox can make a good pick, but the chances the guy ever even makes MLB is 50/50 at best.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 07:49 PM) I'm getting there. I don't see any hope under this ownership. Then if ownership ever changed they would probably keep the same people. Yea I couldn't root for another team as much as change my skin color. Silly example but the Sox are in my blood. I'm like that with all my teams. Who I picked by age 10 or so is it. It's a wierd hodgepodge but it works. UM sports, Sox, Bulls, Lions. Could never even consider rooting for anyone else. That said, my fandom certainly wanes when the teams suck. THat is just natural.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 07:22 PM) Agreed, there's a contingent of Sox fans that are always miserable and you wonder why they haven't gone to another team already if they hate the franchise so much. I'm not happy with the current state either but I don get the point of endlessly complaining. Yeah we're a bandwagon fanbase but so are most fanbases so meh. We're hardly unique there. What fanbase that hardly ever makes the playoffs and has 1 world title in 100 years isn't miserable? Ever visit a New York knicks board? Mariners? Come on, don't sell the fans s*** and call it gold. This franchise and this ownership group has not been good overall. 1 title in 100 years does not, and will not ever, negate that. Just on average you'd have expected 3 titles or more over a 100 years, and that's average.

huh, good thing they don't rank pitchers on "hits allowed", expecially when your defense is one of the most porous in the league. You guys really under rate Q. Sometimes I wonder if there isn't a little more to it than just he's not a sexy high K guy that throws 96. Sorry to imply like that but it does cross my mind.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 07:00 PM) Sullivan still thinks he gets at least $80 million. There is probably no way he would tske it if he loved Coop, but if true, it would seem to cement it. Kaplan did say there was no interest from either side lengthening the relationship. That said, someone not liking their boss isn't so unusual. I would put the over under at 3 years 50 million at absolute most for Shark. He's not going to take a 6 year 80 million dollar deal, not with his ego and nobody is gonna give him 6 years 110 million.

pitch better bro.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 03:29 PM) It's embarrassing to see the White Sox run the bases. How does Vince Coleman still have a job?

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 11:20 AM) I strongly suggest reading Steve Rosenbloom's column on the Sox today in the Tribune. It is 100% right on the money. When the executive VP says publicly he can't figure out what's wrong with the team while the G.M. is saying publicly that everyone is open minded in what needs to be changed you've got a serious disconnect...to say nothing of the disconnect between the organization and the fan base. Really good reading. The reality of course is that as long as JR owns the franchise there will not be much substantial change certainly not bringing in skilled people from outside "the family." Which means more losing, more irrelevancy in their own market and more fan apathy. Also one of the other Sox writers for Chicago Now has an interesting column on why Kenny Williams needs to go at the Tribune web site. Mark I said the same thing yesterday.

Ah yes, that time of year on the Sox message boards: complaints, and the few die hards complaining about the complaints. That's the pattern!

blow.it.up

What an awful idea it was to bring back Beckham. Pretty much guarantee this guy won't ever see another MLB contract. Now hitting a robust .199 on the year with a 543 OPS. I don't care if he's Brooks Robinson you can't carry that bat.

QUOTE (harkness @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 08:18 PM) Abreu cold lately... He really has to learn to not just give away at bats. A lot of talent and good concepts of hitting... but he also really is unsound mentally up there at times. I really think he struggles with the schedule. RV needs to give him more off days IMO.

wait, saladino is leading off?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 12:40 AM) He made a few mistakes like saying Alexei hit the home run, not Avi. Stoney made some point and Hawk first said loudly, "What??" Then after Stoney repeated it, Hawk said he never heard of that before. He was speaking very loudly tonight. When he said that about Stoney's point, it's almost as if Stone didn't know if Hawk was being mean or weird, so Stoney didn't say anything. I noticed that, too. I guess Beckham is a decent utility player. Sox have so many of those. Gillaspie was not one of them cause he is so bad defensively. But Beckham, Saladino, Sanchez, Flowers/Soto both are all part-time at best players. Same at DH as LaRoche should never step in the box against a lefty ever again. jesus, I'm glad I've checked out outside the box scores. What an embarrassment this franchise is. Hawk needs to retire.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 10:38 PM) 9th time this season the Sox lost a game when leading in the 7th inning or later. And the first "blown" game didn't happen until May 26th. The bullpen has been directly responsible for losing seven of those nine games. Nine games is a lot to me. Mark The bullpen is mediocre but the real problem is the putrid offense. You hand over a 1 or 2 run lead enough and you're gonna blow games. That's what Hawk always gets wrong. Suddenly, when you're up 6-2 instead of 3-2 your bullpen looks a helluva lot better.

can someone explain to me why the f*** a 1-2 with a BB Sanchez, (who has 40 points of OPS on Beckham) was pulled FOR GORDON BECKHAM? God I am so done with this team.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 10:21 PM) Too many cooks in the kitchen IMO. agreed. Probably part of the reason they weren't able to get anything done at the deadline. Too many inputs, not enough incisiveness. KW's comments around the deadline about "running off 10 of 12 and getting back in it" coupled with what Hahn said today are completely contradictory IMO. One guy is talking about everyone and everything is on the table and the other guy things the 25 they got are likely to run off 10 of 12 or some s***.

I agree with LDF, it seems like there is a rift in the front office. KW and Hahn do not seem on the same page IMO. I really do not like that both KW and Hahn are mouthpieces. Speak with one voice.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 12:44 AM) Why wouldn't they dump Robertson when given the chance? They certainly don't need him at this stage of rebuilding and have other candidates to close by committee? Because it's very hard to get a better closer at the price. Robertson is the least of their problems. If they are actually good soon, he'll be an asset. He's had some tough BABIP luck and some control problems but for the most part he's been very good. Worst case they suck next year and they get more for him at the deadline.

AAAA player. We got plenty of those.