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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 10, 2015 -> 07:26 PM) I would have agreed with you until I watched the 2011-2014 Chicago White Sox. I saw 3 teams that were complacent, happy, and not worked hard in spring training and I saw 3 teams that disappointed and were uncompetitive. I also saw one team that came out firing on all cylinders from day 1, with some of the best fundamentals I've ever seen from a ballclub, and that team was only kept from a division title by the fact that their kids and veterans broke down from exhaustion at the end of the year. Most of the same players from 2011 fixed problems in 2012 and then the same players from 2012 fell apart in 2013 and looked like a clown show. Maybe the one who set the standard too high is Robin Ventura 2012, but this is the 3rd year in a row I've looked at the team starting out week 1 and said "What the hell did we do different in 2012 and why aren't we doing that again?" Fool me 3 times shame on you. Fool me 4 times shame on me. Can't get fooled again, not after investing so much into the team. If the team is 10 under in July, you sure as s*** better bring the hammer down on Robin.

Tony: I agree pro athletes don't need the rah rah horse s***. That's why they are pro athletes. THAT SAID: This is the 4rd roster for Ventura and the 3rd one that plays sloppy, poor fundamental baseball. Guys are simply TOO RELAXED. After Ozzie, Ventura felt like a breath of fresh air -- problem is, the stench has returned and with all the roster turnover the past few years the one constant has been Robin. Adam Eaton is not that dumb, something has these guys not prepared and I'm going to go ahead and blame the manager. I've seen more than enough.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 10, 2015 -> 06:15 PM) Here's another reason I want to punch the wall, scream and freak out on here. Too many things the Sox do we shrug off as "no big deal. It wouldn't have mattered." You f***ing do not tag up, down six runs!!!! What a pathetic play by Eaton. Why the f*** would you try to score on that except for, "it didn't matter anyway. We weren't going to win." This team desperately needs a mulligan as Hawk said to re-start the season. But Robin can't yell at the guys or turn over tables in the clubhouse. Nobody can do anything because "baseball is a marathon." yeah, sit back and try to score down 6-0 in the ninth inning on a shallow fly ball to left. PATHETIC, EATON! p.s. great take by fathom. And Micah getting picked off down 4 the other day. Robin is dead wood man. He doesn't have the team ready. At. All.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Apr 10, 2015 -> 06:13 PM) This team fundamentals are lol worthy. They look like they are stuck in spring training. Who is to blame for that? The manager.

Fire robin I have seen this same bad baseball over 3 different rosters he is clueless and way way way too relaxed. Club plays lifeless and sloppy game after game.

nice f***ing BABIP luck our staff has had early as well.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Apr 10, 2015 -> 04:45 PM) I agree but how many people are going to be pissed if you see Beckham or Sanchez playing DH? You don't want Emilio in the DH role because he has versatility. You don't want Soto DHing because of the lack of bench catcher. So you have Beckham or Sanchez and I expect Sanchez to be gone here soon Edit: I guess you can have AVI DH and Emilio play RF This is so obviously the answer. If you aren't going to play Emilio around the diamond there is zero point in signing him.

QUOTE (TitoMB @ Apr 10, 2015 -> 04:38 PM) i think his nickname will be 'Dunn' by July. He shouldn't be playing against many LHP. I don't care if he is a vet he is no good against LHP and he shouldn't be batting 5th if even in the lineup.

Laroche has a career OPS+ of 77 vs LHP. I'd really like to see Robin not bat him 5th against LHP.

at least Jose and Avi don't look clue less so far this year.

Let's win a f***ing game and see some decent pitching and defense huh.

QUOTE (shipps @ Apr 9, 2015 -> 03:56 PM) Yeah in football. I dunno man usually I'd be all like whatever 3 of 162 but ya know...the games count in april too and the Sox already are -3 to the Royals and in the basement of the central. With so much parity 0-3 in the division is just icing on the cake and now they have to play 4 better than the Royals the rest of the way to win it. Not ideal.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Apr 9, 2015 -> 04:22 PM) I know I'm in the minority, but I'm encouraged by what I've seen so far from the Sox, even with a possible 0-3 start. What is encouraging other than maybe Avi?

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 8, 2015 -> 10:37 PM) really abysmal, for a team that has started slow traditionally. Of course, when we've started fast it usually meant we were a playoff team. Oh well, probably doesn't mean anything, shouldn't overthink it. I dunno not only did they lose they lost in pretty much the exact way everyone worst cased before the season. Offense is solid but not elite and this pitching and defense? Hell this is with the top of the rotation, granted sans Sale.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Apr 8, 2015 -> 10:27 PM) The pen has been terrible. High pitch counts, too much action, no Ks. Ventura is the same amateur he's been for the last 3 seasons. But he's friend of JR and Williams and he's a hero, and that's what's important. The move to Micah followed by Duke to Perez was pretty head scratching. Also, Duke should probably pitch the 8th if he's not primaly a LOOGY.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Apr 8, 2015 -> 10:27 PM) It is a game. I dont mind strutting around the bases. Thats expected. The curtain call however on game 2 is a bit much. def agree there. stupid nobody was calling for it I bet the vets razz him for it as they should.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Apr 8, 2015 -> 10:25 PM) I can see people getting upset. It still looks like the Sox of 2014 playing games 163, 164. +1 You want optimism for the home opener? f***ing win tmr or at least show some f***ing life. Last year the team showed life early and died late so whatever but show us something.

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Apr 8, 2015 -> 10:24 PM) The second game was "close", but i'm about 17 runs in 2 games. key word: "close" and yea, that pitching tho. To a Royals lineup that is OK but certainly not close to the league's toughest.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Apr 8, 2015 -> 10:22 PM) Its bush league. Now in the Merionette park little league you celebrate every home run like its the last one on the planet, these however are pros who play 162 games. Its game 2. it's a kid's game and why not show some emotion and flair dude had a great game. good on him. I'd like our guys to pickup their f***ing games to his level.

only real positive is some of the offense today. f*** this s*** man. it's early but what a s***ty way to start the year two games where in the end it wasn't close.

pretty good pitch to hit there.

QUOTE (Condor13 @ Apr 8, 2015 -> 10:17 PM) Is flowers this bad at calling a game or are our pitchers just unable to locate a stinking first pitch fastball Good f***ing question considering it's been a staple of cooper era teams. At this point I'm all f***ing for calling up Rodon in a month, put Noesi in the pen (cause Danks won't benefit from it at all) and go from there.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 8, 2015 -> 10:16 PM) Why not? It's a game winning home run? Good job, Putnam. Disgraceful. That uppercut by Cain was hilarious. He just teed off. Yea that was a HR derby swing. Talk about looking for it over the plate and absolutely getting a cookie. Jesus the Sox BP can throw some meatballs.

QUOTE (flavum @ Apr 8, 2015 -> 10:15 PM) Just remember....we won the offseason. come on this stinks but 2 games

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Apr 8, 2015 -> 10:15 PM) When we walk them off at the Cell. One of our guys should walk on their hands from 1st to 2nd, run backwards to 3rd, and then do a belly flop on home plate after the team dusts off the plate. Then do the presser right there. ur avatar is the best thing I'm watching.