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Melky Cabrera now at .1 fWAR! Wow. That is quite the turnaround for the Melk man. He's been a huge part of this run hopefully he keeps it going as he was also a huge part of the s*** start.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 01:27 PM) lol If you didn't get Bryant back, which you wouldn't, you'd be walking away from a Sale trade with Schwarber, Russell, and several other guys who aren't just throw-ins. Sale for Russell, Schwarber and Soler I'd think about.

haha, you can only laugh. Trading Sale for a guy with negative trade value and a guy that projects as a 2-3 WAR LF but that perhaps won't ever reach that ceiling. Nice.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 01:33 PM) He was very good in half a season last year. His 162-game average WAR in Oakland is 3.1. He is on pace for higher than that this season. For comparison sake, Flowers has a -0.2 WAR this year. Also, Vogt is a lefty. He could be an even more impressive platoon with Soto as Vogt crushes rights to a 148 wRC+ and hitting .292 with 13 HR. Soto against lefties is hitting .323 with a wRC+ of 162. You'd be exploiting both heavy splits in their platoon perfectly. I'd take Vogt in a heartbeat if the cost is say Montas+ filler. As you said he'd be the perfect platoon mate for Soto and from what I saw in the Oakland games this year Vogt is fine behind the plate. He certainly throws better than Flowers. For his career Vogt throws out about a 1/3 of base stealers.

If Castro is available for his contract then yea, make the move and figure it out later but I have to figure the Cubs are holding out for more than just a little salary relief. Castro currently has a lower wRC+ than Carlos Sanchez so it's not the Sox should expect much from him the rest of the year. Maybe they can get his head screwed on straight next year including maybe having Ramirez in a mentor role with Alexei playing 50 or so games at SS and Castro the rest as they figure out a bridge to the Anderson plan. If it's just money and a C level prospect thrown in sure do it the White Sox could use more middle infield depth but Castro has upside, the "talent is there" as SS2k said but for whatever reason it's not coming out on the North Side.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 09:51 PM) Beckham with a hard hit rocket to the 2B type of biased from Hawk just now? I have the Boston feed. haha did you just guess that? Yep, he said it was "the 4th hard hit ball for Beckham".

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 05:45 PM) Gordon Edes ‏@GordonEdes 1m1 minute ago Blue Jays are here scouting Jeff Samardzija https://twitter.com/GordonEdes Seems like they are at every Shark start. Hopefully they make Hahn an offer he can't refuse.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 02:53 PM) I was thinking that I hadn't seen enough lame gay jokes lately... I was just thinking it had been one post I wrote that you didn't bother to respond to with some pithy little comment. It's annoying and detracts from any real conversation. You're Skip Bayless level trolling me. Seriously, do I need to re-register under a new name so that you don't feel the need to quote and respond with your "I think the opposite" response to literally every single one of my posts that you read? Of all the things written on here you think "butt buddy" is worthy of pointing out? You need to seriously relax on my posts. In fact, I've tried to ignore you so I don't have to deal with it but you can't ignore admins. Go figure. How hard would it have been, if the post really offended you, to PM me and take it down? But that's not your style I guess you'd rather just fling s*** or take things out of context.

You play to win the game!

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:49 PM) He should take some of TFlow's AB's , and probably a few more than he has, but his health is definitely a limiter, and his defense is debatable. He's been very under-utilized as a DH, imo, and they gotta squeeze every run they can out of their lineups. His defense isn't any worse than Flowers'. But Flowers is Cooper's butt boy so he starts 6 times a week despite being a .5 WAR player over the course of his Sox career.

How long until sweet swinging Carlos Sanchez passes Flowers in OPS? I'm guessing by the end of the series.

QUOTE (Mike F. @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 09:59 PM) This has to be one of the biggest game threads in a long time. stir the drink!

what's gotten into this bunch? damn.

time to move sanchez up in the order.

IBB dumb decision there imo.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 08:47 PM) Whenever there's ANY pressure or expectation placed on this team and organization, they just crumble. 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012...this year after the All-Star Break, they had a huge opportunity to recapture their fans and re-engage their interest again. Now, they have this game handed to them on a platter and they quickly blow a 4-0 lead. lol

good to see the team back to normal, ffs.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 06:48 PM) Panda hasn't slimmed down at all. Nope and in spring there was a well passed along story about how he didn't like the GIants asking him to come into camp in better shape and how he was enjoying eating all the food now that he was a Red Sox. never really understood how pro athletes can't slim down. It's your f***ing job and yyou have all the resources. Some guys can carry the weight when they are young but once you hit 30...

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 06:36 PM) Where's greg to tell us how great Danks is? He now has like 500 innings post injury and he's been about replacement level according to B-Ref and slightly better according to Fangraphs. Some people don't understand sample size and baseball. Greg is one of them. Yes he can throw good games -- but he's a s*** pitcher.

I'm not sure WTF has gotten into this team but I am enjoying it.

His contract is a drop in the bucket, especially when compared to the revenue from a WC berth. Bench his ass and trade him if you can, including paying some of his freight. I'm still pissed Flowers is playing 5 nights out of 7 wtf.

I'm so happy to see Rodon and Sanchez out there leading the charge today. If the Sox are going to have a sustained run of success it would behoove them to find another good starter and a solid starting 2B -- looks like that could happen. Sanchez has almost battled back to replacement level after that brutal start. I still think he's a 1 to 2.5 WAR player long term and IMO they need to bring Micah up, let him DH, and try and apprentice Sanchez the best he can while getting a start once a week at 2B. As for Rodon, obvious he didn't have close to his best stuff but what he did have was decent command on all three of his pitches. Hey, you don't have to throw 97, it helps, but you can certainly be effective without it, especially as a lefty. Hell, look no further than Q. _____________________ Exciting times and that's all you can ask for as a fan. Season is still a disapointment to this point and probably will be in the end -- but at least they are showing some signs. Avi and Laroche are problems but at least they only have 2 holes instead of 4-5 currently. Avi you let get his 600 PA and then another 600 next year and see what happens but Laroche needs to be benched. The Sox never admit sunk costs tho. Another arm chair GM suggestion is to bring up Thompson and let him split time in RF with Avi, where Avi gets to DH some and Laroche is moved to the bench. Jose seems to be playing a decent 1B anyways.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 22, 2015 -> 08:34 PM) At least Viciedo hit for power, Avi doesn't do anything well. Viciedo's lifetime ISO is under .150. He "hit for power" about as well as Avi "hits for average". If that's your strong suit and you suck at everything else, you better do it at an elite level.

Avi Garcia sucks but he needs at least another 500 PA before the Sox sell on him. '16 doesn't look like a contender anyways.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 22, 2015 -> 04:02 PM) Erik Johnson should be in the rotation within the next week. He's 100% earned the shot. Since they're not going to eat the money on Danks, Danks can start in the rotation next year and then Carson takes his place sometime early in the year assuming the normal White Sox like progression. That's when Danks finally moves to the bullpen and we near the end. It's still not a very competitive roster since Rodon will be a still-learning sophomore and there will be a rookie and a rookie and a half, but you give the guys a chance to pitch through their difficulties as youngins for the next season+ and maybe, just maybe, by 2017 we have a really strong rotation where everyone is young and still has a good amount of experience. I just shake my head. If that happens they deserve the 10k average they will get next year.