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QUOTE (ptatc @ Sep 12, 2017 -> 10:52 PM) There really isn't a single answer to the question, otherwise they would know exactly what was going on. However, the most injuries that involve generic widespread inflammation are the undersurface of the rotator cuff and the bicep attachment to labrum. a capsular issue referred to earlier could indirectly cause this by being too loose but it would not directly show up as inflammation. Thanks, this is info google could not provide. So it's most likely not the capsule (thank god) but it still could be a torn rotator cuff or labrum? Obviously not a full tear, as a other diagnostics would show that, like strength and ROM tests.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Sep 12, 2017 -> 10:36 PM) The answer to this question is yes. 2 primary reasons. 1. All pitcher's shoulders are different than the norm. But what is significant and what is not? 2. MRI are notoriously poor in differentiating "inflammation." It all just shows up as white ( or all black depending on the contrast and weighting used). In your experience, what injuries does an inconclusive (read: shows no obvious damage) MRI usually rule out? In the inverse, what injuries usually show up on MRIs of the shoulder? Thanks, I'll take your answer off the air. I did some Google fu, but I'd rather get it from our own expert.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 12, 2017 -> 08:51 PM) Basic question in reply and I don't know the answer to - do you really have 2 MRIs with inconclusive results if it's "soreness you'd have pitched through if it were the playoffs"? That sounds like the same question we'd have asked at the start of the season for him when there was nothing wrong but soreness and he missed half the season for that. So at least color me skeptical, but maybe? This is my thinking as well. MRIs are fairly routine, but they still cost real money and real time and aren't exactly fun things to go through as a player. They scheduled one so quickly (noting it in the press release), shut him down so quickly (again, noted it in the press release...he won't pitch again in '17) and sought a 2nd opinion so quickly -- it scares me.

Yea I don't believe that for a 2nd, Dick. Rodon needs experience more than he needs any sort of stealth tank "rest". Shoulder inflammation, accompanied by an immediate MRI, then a 2nd opinion -- no bueno. Here's my timeline, and I hope I'm not as right on this one as I was on Tilson (Christ I should set the over under on 2017 as his return for my prediction, not July): -- rests most of the offseason -- makes a few spring training starts after delaying his throwing program and pushing him back in spring -- soreness comes back and they shut him down until May or so -- May comes, he tries to throw, can't, and then we hear the dreaded "exploratory surgery". -- Surgery repairs something in the shoulder joint, hopefully not the dreaded "capsule" like Santana and Danks, and he misses the rest of 2018. -- He's never the same guy

Oh well, take the loss.

Damnit, Engel could have scored easily on Yolmer's hit.

He's going to pitch around Jose.

Nasty pitch.

Royals announcing crew seems resigned to losing this.

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 12, 2017 -> 03:40 PM) It's amazing how watchable this team has been with the exception of July. There have been times of bad pitching, quite a few times, but there hasn't been much bad baseball. Lack of talent sure, but not much slop.

QUOTE (Scoots @ Sep 12, 2017 -> 03:18 PM) He has been having some solid contact from both sides of the plate the last few days. Very encouraging to see. Yea he looks good.

Great gun from TA!

Anderson staying hot. His swing looks nice right now.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 12, 2017 -> 02:26 PM) It really seems like Ricky is letting the guys run a lot more in the last month. I wonder if there was a comfort thing, or an adjustment being made? He's also stopped bunting so much. Thank god.

QUOTE (Tony @ Sep 12, 2017 -> 01:08 PM) Thought Yoan might have hit that well enough to leave the park. Ball does not seem to be carrying, at least to RF. Jose crushed that ball as well and it went 5 ft further than Moncada's. I thought it was gone off the bat.

QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Sep 12, 2017 -> 12:56 PM) Man Hawk sounds extra done today lol His voice sounded awful last night, among other things. He's just old.

who the f*** is brantly?

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 12, 2017 -> 12:41 PM) Yea let's make sure this guy doesn't go back to the A's I know, lmao. Like, for real? This guy is worth keeping on the 25 man all year so we don't have to give him back? Who gives a s*** if we give him back. Maybe it's just Hahn trying to stealth tank.

Dylan Covey is the damn tank commander. LOL. That was one of the worst pitches I have ever seen given the circumstances. He couldn't have put it on a tee any better.

It looks like Jose is going to go over 150 games played and over 4 fWAR. Great season from El Oso. Yes Greg, I'm also impressed that he's going to drive in over 100 again as well. Jose is one of the few guys I've watched that is a legit RBI guy. He changes his approach with runners on and less than two outs and usually it results in a well placed line drive and an RBI. He is not up there looking to walk or drive in 5 runs with one swing -- and his approach works.

That was a nice win. Only real bummer was Moncada getting rung up on a pitch 2 inches outside and Lopez sorta tiring the 3rd time through. That said, Moncada looked dangerous at the plate and Reylo pitched a decent ballgame. Abreu is obviously going through what seems like his annual late season surge. One year he'll be playing for a pennant hopefully.

haha, playing spoiler, good job royals

sweet.

hawk and stone in a really good conversation. 2-0 sox!

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Sep 11, 2017 -> 01:40 PM) Very encouraging to see Anderson start to turn things around. He's always going to be a limited offensive player due to his lack of taking walks, but the mix of power & speed along with potentially above average defense could result in a 3 to 4 WAR player down the road. I'm very glad they stuck with him through this tragedy despite how poor the results were. He's an important part of this team's future and I fully expect a significant leap in development in 2018. yea agree 100%