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Look at the box score bro. We have ZERO errors. The Cubs have infinitely more than us. Now, who's really winning? The score says 8-1, but only one team is playing a good clean game.

To be fair, so are the Sox.

This ballgame is ovah!

In spring might as well try and make the play imo.

I felt like at the end they were sitting about 30 feet from each other in the booth.

It would be nice if he panned out into a useful regular. Still pretty young and seems to have a good eye.

Ask Grandal.

These are all established vets, you can expect them to turn it on once the games start to count. --GRIFOL

The more southern teams bitched and moaned about too many early season home games iirc. So now the Sox are as likely to be outside in the midwest as anywhere else.

Stone leaned into all of the corn ball stuff, or 90% of it. He probably just enjoys being the star of the show again.

Our top four will be lucky to put up 8 WAR. I mean I get your point, but I get mine too.

Imagine seeing that lineup, spring training opener or not, as a flash forward in 2019. You'd think it was a split squad game, you'd PRAY it was a split squad game.

Maybe not JR, but Grifol I can totally see saying this.

2005 was the vaccine but she's been faded and for younger fans they never even got the shot.

that's arguable. some fandom is like a virus, it sleeps for awhile but now and then it will come out even when it's all but dead and killed. yes, I just compared the white sox to herpes and shingles or some s%*#.

Is anybody down there? Weather has looked absolutely perfect. Dodgers smoked Padres today 14-1.

Probably more like a Margarita Vallez or similar.

2024 attendance:

Crochet: I'm a starter. Sox: he's preparing like a starter. Question: How many innings will he expect to pitch as a starter? Sox: 70 or so across 20-25 starts. 2024 MLB baseball folks!

It's a single inning Michael, how much could he possibly get hurt?

I'd give a golf clap personally.

TA isn't really a bounceback candidate tho. His underlying batting metrics are telling. 61% ground balls. 32% pull percentage. His statcast data is brutal, like barely even a MLB player bad. His sprint speed IS BELOW AVERAGE. He's a shell of the guy that he was at 25, or even 27. For whatever reason, he stinks now.

Post covid live event bump is long gone. They will be lucky to be getting 15k through the gates a night by the end of June. They can announce paid as 20k or even 18k, but there will be a lot of no shows.

I don't want TA at any price. He needs a clean slate and to get away from the off field distractions in Chicago. The Marlins can try and rehab his value but TA is a guy that has always relied on quick twitch ability rather than skill. At 30, he's going to have a hard time keeping that quick top hand and the speed (and health) needed to maintain the high BABIP he had in his prime. There's a decent chance he's just done as a MLB player imo. I don't think he has the adjustments needed if his athletic ability has declined as much as it looked last year.

My local club, and one that has many similarities to the White Sox in overall futility, fan suppressing ownership and questionable team building. They've pulled a White Sox and traded away a "never quite lived up to his promise" former top prospect in Jarred Kelenic to Atlanta (who will immediately become the 4 WAR star @Harold's Leg Lift predicted) along with a useful (but oft injured and expensive) SP in Marco Gonzales and throw in Evan White in order to save roughly 28 million in payroll. The two pitchers they got back, look like classic middle relievers most of the time and probably won't contribute much to this year's big league squad. But surely they used that 28 million to go get another solid regular, right? Well no. The Ms then made another move trading Robbie Ray to the Giants for former Mariner favorite Mitch Haniger and another middling, oft injured pitcher, Anthony Desclafani, The move was "salary neutral" according to GM Jerry Dipoto but given the prior move, was part of a "payroll rebalancing", as according to DiPoto the Ms had too much salary tied up in SP. Well maybe that makes sense, until you consider that Haniger is on 17 million this year and has a player option for 15 million next year that will ensure his carcass sticks around the Puget Sound another season. Haniger is coming off a negative fWAR year, and is projected for 1 fWAR and 123 games played. That's optimistic by ZIPS: Mitch hasn't played more than 100 games in a season since 2021 and has an injury history that would make Eloy and Moncada look like iron men. The Mariners did spend a little money this offseason, giving 24 million guaranteed over two years to a part time DH in Mitch Garber who will be entering his age 33 season. If you're not spending 12 million AAV on an aged DH to push your expected wins to 87 instead of 86, are you even a real franchise? The Mariners don't want to operate like a good team and raise payroll in the contending window, much like the Sox they seem to believe good teams can be built sustainably on a payroll in the middle of the league. The Ms and Sox enter the year with the 17th and 18th highest payrolls in MLB, respectively. The Mariners' window is ostensibly open this season and the next, but much like the 2022 White Sox, there's a chance that negative regression on the "core" coupled with a refusal to do anything other than retool around middling FAs on the wrong side of 30 will bit them sooner rather than later and slam that window shut. The Ms got roughly 14 fWAR from three position players last year: Cal Raleigh, Eugenio Suarez, and Julio Rodriguez. I'd probably take the under on 14 fWAR for those three this year. If they just have solid years and it goes down to 10 fWAR, the pitching stays about the same and so does everybody else, well, there's your 83 wins instead of 88 or whatever. And there's your window shut. And finally, perhaps realizing they were a little thin overall, they made a win now pay later move (that probably won't even be a win now move in true White Sox fashion) bringing in Santos for a couple C+ type prospects and a draft pick. While it's unlikely the Sox found a star in the deal, it's the type of move the Sox have been on the wrong end of too many times, chasing an extra win through bullpen additions and if you trade off back end top 20 org wide prospects enough times occasionally if will bite you long term. Fangraphs has them at 86 projected wins. The most mariner thing ever would be to win 86 games, miss the playoffs by a game, and then enter a retool headed into 2025. Also, there is this article from Lookout Landing on Haniger that read a lot like the stuff we wrote about Konerko and others. Hope is a good thing, but when it's the only thing?