Balta1701

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 26, 2015 -> 05:15 PM) Should we be adding groups to the list of protected classes? Yes.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 26, 2015 -> 03:38 PM) I'm saying we're close. Probably not there yet for every type of person that could be discriminated against, but far enough towards it that i'm not sure how big a deal it would really be. You're always going to have people that are racist, homophobic, anti-religious group, whatever. So are we at a point where there is a concern that there will be a massive discriminatory push towards those groups ala the 1960's? No, I think we're well beyond that point. You would think the country would have gone all anti-Islam over the last 15 years, but we really haven't. Some nut jobs here and there, but not for the vast, vast majority of people. As to this law, I'm not some huge supporter of it. I'm actually against it more because it's just a waste of paper more than it being intentionally discriminatory towards a group. However, I will say that like the gay person at the copy shop example, if you vehemently disagree with someone or something about a person, you should, as a private person and business owner, be free to not serve that person. You can do that for literally millions of reason but a select few. Obviously the select few have a history of discrimination, but again, looking at the situation in 2015, are those protections necessary? If they are, what about in 10 more years? At some point, the fear of going back to 1960's segregation just doesn't exist. And if it does, enact new protection laws if you must. And no, even if this was pushed by some anti-gay intent, that doesn't really concern me. It's an incredibly small group that would ever be able to use this law as a shield from lawsuits. And we pass bills all the time that are supported by and/or intended for only a small minority of people. As to Chik-fil-a, they got a bunch of supporters (600k people clicking their mouse on the internet) out of how many millions of customers a day? I mean I think they're a perfect example supporting my theory here: they're openly Christian, they're openly against gay marriage, yet they've never shut their doors to the gay community even though in some states they'd be entirely within their rights to do so. There's too much at stake now for them to do that. There are 29 states where right now it is legal for an average employer to fire someone for no other reason than finding out they're gay. Or deny them housing for being gay. That is not being "close".

Other point: White Sox made $31 million last year. 2015 opening day payroll is listed as $21 million above 2014 opening day payroll. If the White Sox want to keep Samardzija next year without moving salaries, they'll need to have revenues improve by $10 million or more without new TV money appearing.

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Mar 26, 2015 -> 03:20 PM) Despite what Hawk thinks, I believe there is a significant chance Beckham doesn't make it to September. He's lucky Micah Johnson's fielding isn't quite there. I think he's more lucky that Saladino went down for TJS.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Mar 26, 2015 -> 04:43 PM) They like to view themselves as not shills for the teams to show they don't suck up . Plus Sale is hurt so it gives them an opening.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 26, 2015 -> 02:16 PM) You can make that claim sure. But I have a hard time believing a person will successfully argue that service of a black person would be a substantial burden due to their disagreement with miscgenation. Is that even a commonly recognized issue these days? If not, just because you, individually, have that belief doesn't mean it falls under the religious practice/freedom umbrella. I'm confident a court's analysis would get to that conclusion given their past opinions on religious practices that are counter to federal laws. I get your guys' point. But I still think the best case scenario is that everyone can discriminate as they see fit, and let the world decide. Pointing back to the 1960's doesn't work anymore. We're far too PC to let anything like that continue on a massive scale. And if you're looking for evidence that you're wrong, how many different states have now tried to pass "license to discriminate against the gay menace" bills. We ended this problem in the 60s because the law forced it to happen. It's the only reason it ended. Ignoring that lesson is ignoring reality and a defense of it happening.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 26, 2015 -> 02:15 PM) Not serving women, Christians, etc? Gotcha. Yeah I'd kinda have a problem with that. Oh and BTW you didn't note in your opening post that the restaurant can't serve shellfish.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 26, 2015 -> 02:07 PM) 2) I'm not aware of any religion that would deem "being black" something that is an affront or objectionable under that religion. And before we go down the "well but yeah anyone can say their religion is whatever they want it to be" road, the SC has handled that numerous times in the past and rejected those attempts. So you actually can't see where "I don't believe in miscegenation" is going to be the immediate reply with the specific example of this case?

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 26, 2015 -> 02:00 PM) You'd have to have your head in the sand in the US to not know that most of Indiana is racist as hell. Its pretty funny considering some of the most famous Indiana natives are or were black. You're not exactly telling someone who is unfamiliar, I did grow up there. I'm impressed that people in Australia now know it. That took skill.

QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Mar 26, 2015 -> 01:55 PM) Until the 1960s (when the federal government finally acted), society in the South was quite happy to allow its businesses to discriminate based on race. This isn't a perfect world and allowing "society" to determine if actions are acceptable allows the majority to trample the rights of the minority. That's the appropriate counterexample. "Heteros only" sign on the door. Everyone's ok with that right? And "Whites only"? We are a worse country for having banned that?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 26, 2015 -> 01:40 PM) Somehow I would doubt the same people would be OK if an Islamic business practicing Sharia law was opened up. How so? Run by males, with women who wear the appropriately required head scarves, closing down for Ramadan? I'm pretty sure I've been in those restaurants before.

So anyway, Congrats Indiana. I have friends in Australia who know nothing about you except now they know you're bigots.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 26, 2015 -> 08:32 AM) Just a terrible thing. This entire plane probably knew their fates, and they were 5-10 feet from being able to save themselves if not for a lock designed to protect them. Apparently this wasn't all that rapid of a descent so it's plausible that cabin might not have known what was going on.

QUOTE (LDF @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 10:48 PM) if Hawkins is crushing AA, i really think the sox will keep him there and move him up to AAA in late July. That isn't unreasonable and it would imply a huge improvement on the part of Hawkins over last year's work.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 08:02 PM) Shows how thin the Sox still are. This makes no sense to me. "One of our high level prospects had a great spring but he's too far away for a callup and there are several better options who would get called up first" "That just shows you how thin this team is" "What about the 'several other options wasn't clear?'"

Twitter lit up so much that ESPN's bloggers noticed.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 08:58 PM) A billion dollars would be right about half of what the Dodgers sold for. That doesn't seem too far off to me. And it seems only about 3% off to Forbes too.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 06:57 PM) OK, I know that ND is far from a lock to take down WSU, but if they do, am I completely insane for wanting a shot at Kentucky rather than hoping WVU takes them down? I know the feeling from Indiana a couple years ago. I was told I was insane then, but I get what you're saying. I just want KY to lose. That's it.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 04:55 PM) Except Bryant spent all of last season in the minors Rodon has only had a cup of coffee in the minors. The real hypothetical then is what we'd do if Rodon was in the same situation next year.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 05:00 PM) Which is exactly why I mentioned, if you took out the new $25 million from the TV contract, our revenues were down again YoY. Not just down, down by $10 million over 2013. Team lost money in 2013 and had to cut $15 million from payroll and get an extra $25 million in TV money to get to where they were last year. If it weren't for that extra TV money, the White Sox would likely be cutting payroll this year.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 05:00 PM) Wow....according to Balta's numbers, our ticket sales revenues have almost dipped by 45-50% over the last 3-4 seasons due to 1) The fall of nearly 25% from 27,000 to 21,000 per game 2) What would have to be a decrease in the average ticket (value) sold from Top 5-6 in the game to close to the $20-21 range (from all the way up around $38.65 per ticket). They also hugely cut the ticket prices in there, so that's the 2nd part.

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QUOTE (LDF @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 04:16 PM) 2 things, i need to get going, i will continue this later.... ok. earlier someone posted a link to what the sox has made and will make on the combine tv deals. if someone can find that link. fne..... but i do have to go... sorry/ According to the Forbes numbers, the White Sox's total revenue was $227 million. $43 million of that came directly from ticket sales. The remaining $183 million is produced through TV revenues such as the deals with local TV affiliates and the national affiliates, league revenue sharing (things like the Extra innings package), and advertisers that have deals with the White Sox. That $183 million probably includes the $120 million in "Total TV revenues" you're referring to or something like that.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 03:07 PM) If any of the women involved were friends or relatives of yours, chances are you wouldn't think the Bears should pay him what they will be paying him to play football. One of the problems with this sort of crime is they turn the tables and make the victim the problem. It is pretty text book. They don't want to testify, or they will take a little cash to make it all go away. Maybe he is innocent, but the 49ers should have a lot of information and they just cut him during the season. The bruises on the neck I have a big problem with. And yet the 49ers DC who had that information just grabbed him back right?

QUOTE (knightni @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 02:00 PM) Watched the third Hobbit movie last night. It was a half of a film with a bunch of crap thrown in to increase the length. 2 Stars: Would not recommend. I would give below 2 stars and agree.