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QUOTE (LDF @ Mar 9, 2015 -> 11:40 AM) and while i agree with what you are saying, how can you arbitrarily write him off, by saying someone will preform better. he needs to prove himself and develop. I think "arbitrarily write him off" is an extremely poor summation of his argument.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 9, 2015 -> 09:52 AM) Once the service issue is taken care of, if he gives the White Sox a better chance to win, you call him up. So he misses starts here and there. He can be skipped with off days, or put him on the DL with some phantom injury, and give him a 2 week break at some point. I'd just like to stress one more time that "extra work for chris sale because we're skipping the rookie as Mr. Offday" sounds like an equally bad idea. Perhaps worse.

QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 9, 2015 -> 11:48 AM) But money wise, just because baseball has 140+ more games does not make it more profitable than football. I'm just amazed how little the football players union has gotten for these guys. I'm completely aware of the rules, just amazed they haven't guaranteed contracts yet. Don't forget that an NFL roster has 55 guys and 22 starters, whereas a baseball roster has 14 starters and a closer, in addition to only 25 man rosters.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 9, 2015 -> 09:44 AM) But you are still going to have the same issue later in the season. He is going to start in Charlotte for service time, but if he could throw 150-160 innings, he is fine in the rotation. There will be at least 2 or 3 guys, even if this season is a total success not named Sale, Samardzija, Quintana, Danks, Noesi or Rodon who make starts for the White Sox in 2015. Probably even more. In Charlotte no one is going to mind if he has to take a start off every month for fatigue or if he pitches for a month with a dead arm and loses 3 straight working through it because we really don't care if we win those games.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 9, 2015 -> 09:29 AM) Why? He can then be replaced. If a guy is giving you top quality for 25 or 26 starts and he is in essence a 4 or 5 starter, you are ahead of the game. In 2014 Chris Sale made 26 starts. I am sure there are a couple of teams that probably would have fared better had he been their #4 or #5 starter. I can't get over the fact that you think teams have 5 starters the entire year. It doesn't happen. The 2005 White Sox tied a record using 6, and that is a record. Your bottom of the rotation guys missing starts is common and no big deal. So you're saying there could be a need of having a guy who starts the season down at Charlotte and comes up mid-season? Golly, I wonder who we might use in that role.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 9, 2015 -> 09:23 AM) Has Rodon ever pitched in the Cape Cod league or something similar? To the best of my knowledge no. He's thrown 110 innings in 2012 then 130 in 2013 and 98 college followed by 25 pro innings last year. And last year, people were repeatedly talking about him being "overworked" while at NC State because their coach left him in for some long outings. People also suggested that was one of the reasons his stats in 2014 (hits, WHIP) were higher than in 2013 - because he had a dead arm period mid-season due to the workload. It's entirely possible we have him right now because of the fact that his arm wasn't stretched out and ready to handle that load.

QUOTE (AlSoxfan @ Mar 9, 2015 -> 09:08 AM) While I love his competitive nature I really don't think he's ready yet and I don't think money or any of that is on his mind just yet. He wants to compete with the best because he believes he's one of the best. Nothing wrong with that. The Sox will know more by the end of spring training and then we'll see how it'll work out. I also disagree with the notion that we'll know more by the end of Spring Training. He could throw 30 straight perfect innings and I'd still say "He's going to wind up exhausted by the all star break if we try to use him on the big league team from day 1 and that will cost us dearly in the 2nd half".

Carlos Rodon does not give the team the best chance to win if he has to be shut down for 1 start every 3-4 weeks the whole year to keep his arm from being exhausted and if he's pitching on fumes down the stretch in August and September like Sale and Quintana were in 2012. I still don't care about the super-2 deadline or whether its good business or not. If you're trying to rely on his arm in August after he's thrown 140 innings he's either going to hurt himself or he's going to be flat out bad. The end result of that will be him skipping starts and then more innings hung on Sale and Quintana down the stretch, or on the bullpen, and wearing out Sale even more also sounds like a losing strategy to me. He shouldn't start at Charlotte for money reasons although those are nice. He should start at Charlotte because he's never pitched more than 130 innings in a season and he did that against college-level competition. Whether he's ready or not we need to go easy on him because exhaustion will equal losses.

QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 8, 2015 -> 10:18 PM) Because of Shaun hill? Why would they want him in addition to Claussen? It's a terrible move for next year but it's a definitive rebuilding move. Trade away everyone and at least Hill fills the role next year while hunting for or grooming a better QB.

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Mar 8, 2015 -> 07:16 PM) What's funny is people were questioning Thibs on not playing him. Now it looks like Thibs is right again; he simply isn't ready. I, for one, will never question Thibs when it comes to rookies. Only guy who has failed under him is Teague. Technically didn't he have James Johnson also?

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Mar 8, 2015 -> 05:26 PM) Didn't Konerko steal at bats from him? It certainty didn't make any sense for the Sox to carry three 1B/DH types last year He was on the big league roster because of Konerko. Since they had an extra DH who couldn't play teh field they needed someone who could play every IF position.

QUOTE (glangon @ Mar 8, 2015 -> 05:05 PM) He wasn't given much of an opportunity but I'd rather see neither of them break camp, although I suspect Beckham will. I think Leury needs bats this year and I don't think he'll get it at the big league level 2 straight years teams haven't seemed to care much about Leury getting at bats.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Mar 8, 2015 -> 01:39 PM) Chris Mortensen ‏@mortreport 4m4 minutes ago Ndamukong Suh will sign with #Dolphins on Tuesday based off parameters around $114 million and $60 million guaranteed, per sources. I can't recall another season where the top FA was known to be signed before the FA period even started. Did the NFL change their negotiation/Tampering rules in the last CBA?

That was an impressive shot of Izzo.

Jesus Christ. Since when does it being a last second shot mean that it's ok to tackle a player?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 6, 2015 -> 09:31 PM) Salary cap. Gasol is kind of useful.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Mar 6, 2015 -> 02:58 PM) I'm hoping Phillip Dorsett is there in the 2R and that's our pick. Great route runner in the slot who will stretch defenses. I'm not ready to give up on Wilson either. Kid doesn't turn 23 until September, and I think there's still plenty of upside there. Ride it out with Jeffery/Dorsett/Wilson next year and if Wilson doesn't step up then you know what to address the following year. Quarterback.

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QUOTE (LDF @ Mar 6, 2015 -> 01:59 PM) this is the dumbest thing the bulls under this current ownership has done. that is to the best of my memory will take me. 1 question, before Thib's, how long and how many errors did the bulls went thru, before they found a good coach????? 1 error. For the past decade+ they're alternating between horrible mistakes and solid hires. Scott Skiles was a solid hire following up Bill Cartwright. Skiles wore down the team and they contracted VDN. After being cured of VDN, they hired Thibs. Next hire = expected to be awful.

Of course. They don't get to play against the White Sox.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 6, 2015 -> 12:37 PM) Marshall and Jeffrey are redundant, they need to add a speed threat. The investment in Cutler should really have no impact on Marshalls status with the Bears, I think it is pretty obvious that Cutler is not going to collect this entire contract with the Bears, and it is becoming likely that this season is the last in a Bears uniform. JMO - if this is likely Cutler's last season in a Bears uniform, see if there's any way you can save the roster bonus he's due on the 12th and just cut the cord.

An AT&T truck turned across a crosswalk this morning where we had a clear go signal and they had a red light/no turn on red signal, and nearly hit me & another pedestrian in the process. Somehow I thought this was a metaphor. Carry on.

QUOTE (farmteam @ Mar 6, 2015 -> 12:11 AM) What about someone like Tim Kaine or Cory Booker? I suppose Kaine is 57 so he isn't much of an "up-and-comer." Corey Booker is a huge financial industry/wall street booster and so he's already soured me on his potential. That leaves me little reason to consider voting for him in any primary

QUOTE (Cknolls @ Mar 6, 2015 -> 10:50 AM) What i find strange is no mention of job losses in the energy sector....Those jobs have been getting hammered the last two months and that is not represented in the data.. It's not "no mention", it's certainly in the numbers, 9k drop in the mining industry, 2k drop in oil and gas, following similar declines in the previous couple months. But, if you look at the total numbers employed by that industry, mining oil and gas are actually a very small employer overall in the country, so even regular declines by them are easily dwarfed elsewhere (especially if consumer spending can tick up because people have more money).

QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Mar 6, 2015 -> 12:11 PM) This must be false. I heard Dan Bernstein say on the radio it could not happen. I wouldn't blame him, frankly we're all saying we're suprised/impressed about it. Frankly I'm a bit more surprised...the Bears have that huge investment in Cutler, so I'd think that even with decent cap savings Marshall would be worth that cap hit to keep around him. Guess he really did become part of the problem last year.