QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 19, 2012 -> 04:09 PM)
Obama never said anything about withdrawing from Afghanistan when he was campaigning and he said he was going to do more there because that's where the actual threat is. I don't personally agree and he is accomplishing nothing, but that's what he campaigned on, and that's what he's doing. I don't really get why people bring that up now out of any context besides "he needs to withdraw now." Especially conservatives because the vast majority of them didn't want to withdraw from Iraq (well, some of them were relieved that the clusterf*** was over) and were full of phony indignation when Obama said a withdrawal date out loud for Afghanistan (exit strategy is something Bush never did or even attempted to do and they never challenged him on that so I guess you can say they're being consistent).
I'm in on it being a clusterf*** in Afghanistan right now, but I'm not sure what the answers are for the next few years. If I can say Biden is useful for one thing, I'm really hoping he spends the next 4 years asking "What will this do to get us out of Afghanistan" every time anyone in the military asks the President for something. He's kinda been doing that anyway, it'd be really nice if he got really annoying about it until we finally came up with something.
For the alternative, Mitt Romney's Af-Pak plan is about as vague as everything else he's put forwards in terms of policy positions, he insists that somehow we have leverage over the region we're not using which is obviously a joke but one I can ignore...but the one thing he's really firm on is that we shouldn't be withdrawing any forces yet. He's strongly opposed to any sort of firm timeline for departure, which makes one start to wonder what the plan for getting out actually would be.
I'm glad "figuring out what to do with Afghanistan" isn't a problem I have to deal with.