Balta1701

QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ May 4, 2011 -> 03:37 PM) Funny that some were actually using that excuse early on. After Weaver and Haren it was 100% correct.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 4, 2011 -> 03:32 PM) Jesus.Montero. They woudln't give him up for Greinke in the offseason.

And there's the freebie run that will somehow cost the game unless we hit another solo HR.

Butera breaks an 0/22 streak

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ May 4, 2011 -> 03:01 PM) Dunn seems to think his job is to take a damn walk... Compared to waht he has been doing?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 4, 2011 -> 02:48 PM) I'm pretty sure The Stein did it to Billy Martin.

Well, Rios's May power is coming back.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 4, 2011 -> 02:22 PM) Haha Juan...at least we can see if he can break caught stealing record this season! Anyone know what it is? Ricky was caught 42 times in 1982.

Sigh.

QUOTE (ChrisLikesBaseball @ May 4, 2011 -> 02:19 PM) Kubel will very quietly hit free agency after this season and I really wouldn't mind it if the Sox put in a bid. Not unless Dunn is moved first. Kubel belongs at DH.

Does that count as a hit?

Well, now the only remaining question is whether we'll get a hit during this shutout.

That was fast.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 4, 2011 -> 02:06 PM) This was more than if they want to blame someone, then they should fire me. If he's going to say that and he thinks that he's part of the problem then he should quit. Otherwise its a copout.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 4, 2011 -> 02:04 PM) You missed the pregame then. He pretty much said he should get fired. He always says that.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ May 4, 2011 -> 01:54 PM) Does anyone doubt that the Sox will score 6-8 runs this afternoon and end internal talks of Walker being fired, and secure this man's job, causing us to all rip our hair out? I really can't see them pulling it together for that kind of outburst. Which of course means you're right and they will.

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QUOTE (T R U @ May 4, 2011 -> 01:49 PM) they would still be really good even without those guys Esp. with the Ravens, I'm not so sure.

QUOTE (Tex @ May 4, 2011 -> 01:36 PM) Good move in not releasing the pictures. The doubters will claim the pictures are photo-shopped. The extremists will use it as a rallying point. The thing I'm reminding myself of is the cell phone video of Saddam being killed, with people taunting him and chanting "Muqtada". I expected the photos would get released, but in light of how it went down that time, I can't complain all that much.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 4, 2011 -> 01:34 PM) President Obama: We will not release Bin Laden pictures. I can't say it's the wrong decision, but I will say I'm surprised.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 4, 2011 -> 01:16 PM) Without him, the Sox don't exist. He the one who moved the St Paul Saints to Chicago in 1900, and he build Comiskey Park. He may have been an ass, but he quite literally is the reason the White Sox are here. Like I said, who out there doesn't deserve a statue?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 4, 2011 -> 01:25 PM) That was my first thought is that it is harder to catch up when you have already peaked, than when you haven't even come close. there is a better chance of things going wrong after you have been hot, versus the other way around. Guys like Verlander and Cabrera doing what they always do isn't exactly "Peaking" though.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 4, 2011 -> 12:38 PM) God takes it as a dare. Tonight we lose 10-0 and get perfecto'd! Hell, I think that'd be pretty darn cool to see.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ May 4, 2011 -> 01:27 PM) Balta, Any confession may include false information (regular interrogation techniques included). Torture will get people to talk. The reason we dont do torture has nothing to do with its effectiveness or ineffectiveness. It is entirely about whether we believe in torture at all. Even if you could find a study that said if you cut a guys balls off he will 100% of the time tell the truth, Id be against it. Because its not about the ends justifying the means, its about the means themselves. Im not sure why people who are against torture would be arguing against this. We've got great examples from even the last 10 years. We KNEW that Al Qaeda was working with Iraq, but no one was telling us that they were, so we waterboarded enough people and sent enough people to Egypt until they told us what we knew. The State of Illinois Knew that those people on death row were guilty. So they turned off the cameras in the interrogation room and let that one cop wind up put like 30+ people onto death row. Torture works because the person tells you everything. Anything and everything. They make stuff up to get you to stop. Torture only works when the torturer knows the answer already...the torturer will always get that answer before the end. We waterboarded KSM 180 times in a month and we didn't get the actual name of this courier or even his code name, but we got a lot of phony terror alerts and learned that Saddam was running Al Qaeda.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ May 4, 2011 -> 01:11 PM) I dont really think the results matter. The real issue is whether waterboarding is torture. We know that torture is effective, we just ban it because of our own moral beliefs. So if you believe waterboarding is torture, the ends dont justify the means. If you dont think its torture, than all this may show is that it is more effective than regular interrogation. Either way the question is, do you think waterboarding is torture. We know it's effective at doing what torture does...extracting false information or false confessions. That is always what torture has been best at.