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QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 17, 2007 -> 01:12 PM) Except his momentum has been totally buried by Romney and Huckabee. But, that's more than enough money to make him a bit player in the general if he chose to run as an independent

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Dec 17, 2007 -> 11:11 AM) I don't agree with that. It's not MLB's place to enforce federal law, only its own rules. Imo it's unreasonable for MLB to discipline anyone who used steroids before the MLB ban, or HGH before MLB banned that. If the feds want to pursue a case, that's their business, not baseball's. So, in terms of steroids, do you apply that as of 1991? Here's the actual memo Commissioner Vincent wrote stating baseball's policy Re: PED's.

QUOTE(spiderman @ Dec 17, 2007 -> 10:42 AM) Our #3, #4, and #5 starters are major question marks. Above all other reasons, this is why we're a 4th place team. And adding Miguel Cabrera and Torii Hunter would not have changed this fact either. And keeping Garland while being stuck with Uribe/Eckstein at short would have solved that problem but reopened the Uribe at SS can of worms. And cost us about $30 million more this season. There was nothing we were going to do this season that would rob us of having question marks. Making every single huge deal that people have wanted here would have still left us sitting as probable outsiders in the AL Central. As far as I'm concerned, almost every deal we've made makes sense in that light.

QUOTE(max power @ Dec 17, 2007 -> 10:08 AM) Richar is playing winter ball? What are his stats? Minorleaguebaseball.com has them. .224 .268 .254 .521, in 67 at bats.

QUOTE(DonnyDevito @ Dec 16, 2007 -> 01:55 PM) But more than likely DOOMED to fourth place. And signing Rowand, Signing Hunter, and maybe even trading for Cabrera would probably not change those odds much.

Newsweek looks into Huckabees past and allegations that Huckabee's son, while a Boy Scout, participated in the lynching of a stray dog and had his governor Father help cover up for him.

Joe Lieberman to endorse McCain, be used to spin 5th place finish in Iowa as a 3 way tie for 3rd place.

QUOTE(klaus kinski @ Dec 15, 2007 -> 05:23 PM) You are right-but both Danks and or Floyd will be on the short leash, like Garland was early in Guillens term. So we will have a long reliever, probably the other of these two, that will need a couple of days between appearances. I see 12 pitchers-even at the start-but the need for good long relief is necessary Am I missing things, or wasn't the whole idea of Garland's turnaround with Ozzie that Garland wasn't kept on a short leash, where Manuel would pull him at the first sign of trouble, Ozzie supposedly let him work thorugh his problems and actually gain confidence that he could get through a jam. Or at least that's what I kept reading back in 05.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Dec 15, 2007 -> 04:55 PM) Garland is a 200 inning guy. His replacements haven't shown they can pitch anywhere near that yet. If the bullpen has to pitch an extra 50 or 60 innings they will suck even worse. The bullpen was great in 2005. The big 4 starters pitched a collective 890 innings or so. One of the reasons the bullpen was so effective is because of that. If his replacements can't pitch that, then just watch as Masset, Sisco, Gio, Egbert, or someone from that whole pot gets called up to pitch those innings. In 2004, we had basically what, 3 starters for 1/2 the year, and we were still at the top of the league in innings pitched. That was 1 of those 5th starter disaster years, and we were still up near the top with the innings pitched by our starters. In 2007, Danks only pitched 2/3 of the Year, Contreras got moved to the Bullpen, Garland had a knot in his shoulder, and we were still at the top of the league in starters innings pitched. Ozzie guillen will give his starting pitchers the innings no matter who they are, how well they're performing, or how well the bullpen is performing.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Dec 15, 2007 -> 03:54 PM) Both are off of hearsay technically. Again, if Roger steroid/hgh use isn't true, why hasn't a lawsuit even been mentioned yet? Well, to be fair, it would take a fair amount of time even to file the paperwork to bring a suit against anyone due to this report. But personally, that is still what I'd want to see before I believe a word.

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QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 15, 2007 -> 03:23 PM) I'm real excited for some cool things that may be in store for Soxtalk and the other sites within the network. I'm talking cool ass possibilities surrounding content for all the membesr to read. Sweet. Cool ass. Sweet.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Dec 15, 2007 -> 03:33 PM) Yep and the guys who admit to using HGH before 2005 are also denying ever using steroids. And Jimmy Crack corn, and I don't care.

And that 25% that say no is all it takes. A lot of those undecideds will turn to no if Clemens doesn't fight this very hard and if McGwire and Bonds don't get in (if neither one plays again, both Bonds and Clemens will be eligible first in the same year, 2012 I think. That'll be fun)

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Dec 15, 2007 -> 01:35 PM) Renteria has a pretty reasonable team option for '09, if he's even decent next year I suspect Detroit will activate it. So that takes them off the market for a SS and leaves Furcal and Cabrera as the only good options. $11 million club option, $3 million buyout. Didn't see that, sorry.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Dec 15, 2007 -> 12:10 PM) Cabrera is a .321 OBP guy for his career. If he hits like last season, he's a huge upgrade, if he doesn't, while he may be an upgrade, its really not that big. How can you say Danks should definitely be able to eat Garland's innings? He was so awful the second half, they sat him down. Its really going to tax the bullpen if KW keeps the rotation as its currently configured. Would you say that having Danks shut down in the 2nd half like last year taxed the bullpen? Because the White Sox's bullpen was one of the least used in baseball. And it has been every one of the last 4 years. No team's starters have thrown more innings than ours the last 4 years, no team's bullpen has thrown fewer innings than ours, entirely because of the way Ozzie uses his pitchers and the presence of this Buehrle dude. Whether the starters are great or suck, Ozzie gives his starters the innings and the remote chance to win games until they totally explode. Especially if we stick a 12 man bullpen out there, there is no reason why anyone would look at the White Sox's stats for the last few years and expect that the bullpen is going to be really taxed. None at all.

Oh, here's a rough list of who's potentially out there for 09, not totally updated but sorted by position.

QUOTE(Vance Law @ Dec 15, 2007 -> 12:58 PM) Furcal. Potentially CabO. Right now, it's Furcal, CabO, Renteria, and possibly guys like Eckstein, Uribe, Vizquel, and the usual filler. Those first 3 make it a decent market if none of them sign before they leave, and the development of new SS's by a bunch of teams lately may well cut into the market a bit. I mean, the big spenders are all covered easily at SS except for us and Detroit. The Angels have 3, the Dodgers have Hu, the Braves have Escobar, the Mets & Yankees will scoff at SS's, the BoSox are stuck under Lugo's contract. There'll still be a market with teams like the Tigers, White Sox, Giants, Blue Jays, and a few others thrown in needing guys to play that spot, but it's nice that the real big money teams shouldn't be in the market.

QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 15, 2007 -> 11:45 AM) Give me a freaking break. I guess I was the only person on here who didn't want Rowand. No you're not. And amazingly I agree with you on that part. On the other hand, I'm probably the only one who's willing to say we should tough it out with exactly the guys we have now.

QUOTE(rockren @ Dec 15, 2007 -> 11:11 AM) We never drafted a Danks before.......we traded for John.... Link.

Part of the reason why that level of contract number is being floated is that Johan is still not a FA next year. In other words, if he could lock in 7/$140 right now, he increases his salary by about $7 million next year and at the same time locks in $133 million in guarantees on the off chance he gets injured next year. He clearly would be able to get more on the FA Market in a year, but that assumes he stays healthy for another year, doesn't have any dropoff in performance, and has everything else just stay normal. Even if he's got a 95% chance of having all those things happen, a 5% chance of his arm exploding and winding up with Tommy John surgery or something like that could cost him $125 million. Would you risk losing $125 million to maybe add $35-$40 million onto your contract by hitting the FA Market?

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Dec 14, 2007 -> 08:15 PM) He was decent in New York, but hasn't been the same since. They obviously don't see Okafor as a C long - term. Well, some of that, and some of Sean May being out probably drove this deal.

ESPN with a fairly remarkable story about F.P. Santangelo, who now hosts a radio show, coming forwards, admitting that the Mitchell Report was right, issuing an apology to the fans and to his family, and even taking calls on the issue.

Nazr Mohammed to the Bobcats for Primo Brezec, Walter Hermann.

QUOTE(jasonxctf @ Dec 14, 2007 -> 06:29 PM) dems will take the White House in 2008, making these issues veto proof. Fixed that for you.