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And as if you guys hadn't had enough...he just won't go away.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Sep 26, 2007 -> 11:46 AM) What a joke. The reverend(s) Al and Jesse can pull racist s*** all day long, and it goes right on by. Yeah, s*** like taking O'Reilly to restaurants in NYC where the African Americans aren't acting crazy. What a cunning trap the Rev. laid.

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I find this perspective intriguing...

Back on the Blackwater topic...

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Sep 26, 2007 -> 08:57 AM) Houston? N.O.? St. Louis? Seriously, you guys are right. The injuries that have happened are major cogs for the Bears. I was just mocking it but I really shouldn't have to be honest. St. Louis with Orlando Pace I could put up there. Who has Houston really lost who's a key guy for them? NOLA has lost a couple guys but I'd say they're no where near the level of the Bears guys except for Deuce. I mean, you're talking about 3+ pro bowlers out, both of your starting CB's, 3/4 of your DB's, and toss Ruben Brown in there while you're at it.

Don't know if it's racism or not, not sure I care, but this had to be fairly amusing. CNN's Rick Sanchez yesterday.

Let's bring back an 06 rumor...Josh Fields for Linebrink...Get it done KW!

QUOTE(Brian @ Sep 26, 2007 -> 06:52 AM) So losing a pro bowl corner, another good corner, a pro bowl safety, and a pro bowl D tackle all to injury, isn't a valid excuse? We are talking about a team that thrives on defense and special teams. Can anyone name any other team in the NFL that has been beaten up as badly as the Bears by injuries this season?

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 06:31 PM) Oh my, that is explosive. And yet, when I post the exact same thing in the AG thread, I get ignored by everyone but Tex.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 04:56 PM) Yes, Mr. Sherman, everything stinks. :lolhitting

Well, I'll admit this slipped past me too.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 04:54 PM) well, seemingly if you sign him, you could cut rex, correct? eh, i dont know how the financials work, ill take your word for it. I'm also fairly certain that if you cut Rex, you still take the cap hit for the remaining time on his contract, so really the Bears don't have a way of clearing that space as I understand the game.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 04:17 PM) They will draft someone in the second round out of a small school (think a Charlie Frye type)... their first rounder MUST go to O-Line. I know they couldn't PR-wise, but Byron Leftwich would have been a nice retread to try to fix here. I wanted him bad coming out of school, and I really don't see how he can already be considered a bust (aside from injuries) when he played with a pretty woeful receiver corps and managed an 80.5 QB rating (not hideous). I think with reliable receivers that completion percentage would have soared past 60... It's not just PR-Wise...the Bears right now have the lowest amount of cap space in the NFL this season after signing Vasher and Tillman to extensions. Until we move onto next year's NFL calendar and start talking about next year's cap, the Bears literally could not have signed him.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 03:19 PM) So, Richardson is apparently making enough gains to make some other candidates get a little nervous. He is now in double digits in support in both Iowa and NH. Candidates have started pecking him about his Iraq troop withdrawal promise, which appears at odds with earlier statements that he may leave a few soldiers in the area. Things keep getting more interesting as we get nearer the first primaries. Richardson started running an ad today featuring left leaning bloggers talking about his Iraq policy. It's certainly an interesting thing to see as a campaign ad.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 04:04 PM) Like I said, I found it disgusting, but interesting that so many people would come to his defense. I just don't understand it. You're forgetting one thing about Bears. These are godless killing machines out to destroy all mankind. It is simply lunacy to leave ourselves exposed to them by leaving them alive.

Well, I'll just consider this the AG thread:

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 02:56 PM) I'm hoping this means the club is going to overhaul the QB situation entirely. Let Griese run the team the rest of the year, let Grossman and Orton go at the end of the year. Draft QB's as much as possible, look at trades, and look for those backup QB's out there that have starting potential but that are blocked. Bring them all in next summer in camp, and let the best man win. Why would you let Orton go esp. since he's not a FA? I clearly think you're right on letting Grossman walk, and either drafting or trading for one before the start of next season, but I can't see how it makes sense to give up on a 3rd rounder who's been sitting on the bench for the better part of 2 seasons now without at least giving him a shot to be a backup again next year.

QUOTE(Alpha Dog @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 02:02 PM) Please note I ASKED if it was new, used, already crap, etc. My only judgement was that your situation isn' the same for all, although I do realize that is was more common in the 80's and 90's than now. Enjoy your current car. Glad you like it. A question: if the dealer you bought your current car from also sold American cars, would you consider one then, or does the mere mention of an American brand turn you off? It seems to me that foreign vs domestic car ownerships can be as deeply divided as politics. I would have been open on a Ford, but was never really a big fan of the Focus in general, and that was the level of car I was looking at. Chrysler has really never caught my interest, but I mgiht consider them in the future. Right now, I thought by far the best choice for me was something from the Japanese folks. If, at some point soon, the U.S. automakers get their heads fully into the game, that could change. That includes a longer trend of improving quality and a much more logical approach with regards to gas mileage (and getting their heads in the game with regards to gas mileage and politics would not be a bad thing from my perspective either, although even the Japanese companies are fairly indictable in that regard)

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 01:37 PM) The big issue is that Griese just isn't good. I put a lot of blame on Turner for not going deep enough this year, especially to Hester. It seemed like the Bears excelled last year when they could get the deep pass going, and it never worked out well when they would try to run it twice and then convert on a pass on 3rd and 6. Now that Rex is done in Chicago, and Griese isn't special, I really hope we're not anticipating Orton being the starter in 2008. If Griese is, as you say, not good, then it will make no difference at all which QB out of the 2 the Bears go with, the Bears will not be looking at making the playoffs this year. Not with the injuries on the D side of the ball pililng up the way they are and the entire offense performing so poorly. I'd say Orton can be on the list next year, and probably should get a look this year at some point unless Griese suddenly rules. He certainly shouldn't be handed the job next year. But neither should Griese. The Bears should make every effort to go after a veteran QB somewhere, and they should certainly have the cap space to do so. And if not, then the Bears must take a QB in the first round, at which point, you throw it open in training camp and let whichever QB plays the best earn the starting job in game 1.

QUOTE(Alpha Dog @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 01:22 PM) 'as good as I possibly do with that car'. Does that mean it was already s*** when you got it, or you had no time/money/knowledge to do upkeep? Was it new or used when you got it. As for your GM experience, I don't dispute it happened. I have heard many of them, unfortunately in the 80's, most from American dealers. But look back to I think 2005, Toyota recalled more cars than it sold in America. All I am trying to say is your experience 20 years ago isn't necessarily indicitive of todays world.Man, you are making an awful lot of judgements on me. 20 years ago I was 6 years old, and I think my parents are fairly happy I wasn't driving then. It was new when purchased in the late 90's, and was basically a service disaster from the start. By the time we got to 15,000 miles we were taking it back to the dealer once a month with a variety of issues mainly dealing with the engine. I'd say it was basically built as a piece of crap. I didn't abuse the thing, I wasn't putting it in places it shouldn't go or stupid things like that, and I did all of the upkeep as reccommended/required. I can't say I couldn't have done better with it because I'm not a mechanic and I don't know how to repair a crappy starter, for example (which was one of the many issues and probably the most annoying of them), but I think I did everything I reasonably knew how to do in order to keep that vehicle running, and it wasn't too happy about it. You may have had a better experience, and with that, I'll say you were luckier than me and therefore you should keep going with what works for you. But right now, it's going to take at least several years before I even consider a vehicle made by GM.

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 01:31 PM) Terrible decision, Rex should have been given one more game. In even worse news, Tommie Harris is expected to be out a month with a knee sprain. If the Bears want to make the playoffs this season, this move was unavoidable. Maintaining Grossman as the starter, given his play, even with all the other mitigating circumstances (poor O-line Play, disasterous receivers, etc.) only made sense if you wanted to basically say "wait til next year" on Rex. And since Rex is a FA at the end of the season, that seems really stupid to me. Rex had more than enough chances to even begin to show shreds of improvement. He has not done so. End of story.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 12:50 PM) http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/st...4382&page=1 It's called the joy of beating expectations. You get the press to report what you were expected to do and everyone's proud of you for beating it. Like when George W. Bush graduated high school.

QUOTE(Alpha Dog @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 11:43 AM) So you owned an American car when you were in high school, when you probably don't care for it as well as you do your current foreign car, and you drive field cars that are American, driven by people who couldn't give two s***s because the car isn't theirs. Comparing those to the car you currently have and probably baby with loving care is not quite apples to apples. Oh now that is absolute B.S. I took as good of care as I could possibly do with that car in H.S. Basically the exact same treatment I give to the current one, if not better. My biggest favorite story with that car was when the chronic problem with the starter that it had cropped up, we took it to the dealer while under warranty roughly 6 times to get it fixed. The last time, they kept the thing for well over a month, and when we got it back it had been sitting out on their lot for 2 weeks or more (you could tell from the new water spots and the lack of rain for roughly those 2 weeks). I'm still bitter at GM for the way that dealer treated us. My father literally had to call the owner of that dealership to get them to give us the bloody vehicle back. And those field vehicles are cared for probably even more, because a.) we have a person who's job it is to maintain them and b.) you're putting your life in the hands of those vehicles a lot more than the other ones. We do put those through a lot in terms of off-road requirements...but if a vehicle doesn't perform well under the conditions its built for, then how else should you judge it.

QUOTE(thedoctor @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 11:29 AM) so where does everything think orton fits in all of this? yeah, he wasn't great in his first tour, but what rookie quarterback is? does he have a future with this organization or is he just end of the roster fodder? I don't think this Organization can possibly go with Orton and Griese as its only 2 quarterbacks going in to next season. You have to sign or draft or trade for someone. However, assuming the Bears do not acquire a current NFL starting QB (i.e. McNabb) this offseason, I think you try to give Orton some reps once games are over or once the season is decided to be a complete loss. Possibly even a start or two if things wind up really bad. Then, you call it open in training camp next year, between Orton, Griese, and your rookie, and whoever earns the spot gets it.