Balta1701

Good work laying off those 2 paulie, make him throw strikes

Behind in the count 1-2, hits the ball to the right hand side. Run scores, E-3. Good job of hitting Aaron.

Come on ARow, put some good swings on the ball...send the thing into right field...anything but a strikeout or a groundout to the left side. Anything but that.

That's the definition of a productive out, even if it was an out.

Stole the base on a bloody pitch-out!

4-3 Tampa Bay, Home Run by Cantu off of Crain in the top of the 7th inning. Cantu, Ye-es!

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 06:40 PM) My guess is he'll first try and run a very staunch conservative through and will than "compromise" by pushing a more moderate conservative, who will probably be the guy he originally wanted or selected but will use the other guy to at least show some sort of effort of compromising. Thats what I'd do at least. That's not in Bush's character at all. If he nominates someone, he doesn't want to backtrack no matter what happens. Take a look at the Bolton nomination...he's clearly a guy who doesn't deserve that job, he's totally unqualified, even in a Republican led Senate Committee he couldn't get an endorsement for his nomination, but Bush is still pushing him. And withholding information to protect him.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 06:30 PM) Anyone that has the resources to mount a major terror strike on the US can just get a tourist visa and walk in the front door. Why risk dying in the desert? Tourism in the US is a multi-billion dollar industry. But if it makes you feel safer catching some scared migrant worker trying to pick onions in Wyoming this fall, go for it. Because if you're trying to get a lot of people into this country...if just 1 of them is on some sort of watch list for whatever reason (or even if they just get detained for looking suspicious), that can be all it takes to unravel a plot. If 1 person had asked 1 more question about the guys in San Diego who's roommate was an FBI informant, or if 1 more person had talked to 1 more agent about those flight schools, september 11th wouldn't have happened. We were right on the edge of breaking that plot, but we never put a strong enough focus on all the chatter we were receiving. If it only takes 1 person to break up a plot, then you need to make sure that no one is caught until it is too late. And that means you don't risk putting yourselves into the hands of the authorities. Especially if you're carrying something, like a lot of cash or explosives or other weaponry.

QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 03:52 PM) I hate to say it but if these f***ers are smart enough and organized enough there is probably nothing to stop them from getting in. Just pray that FBI and Homeland Security have great people working for them. It's all very worrisome and a bunch of yokals sitting on the border doesn't reassure me one bit. Actually, I'd say that if we're ready, even if they're organized it's more than possible to stop them from getting in. We managed to stop the Millennium bomb plot in 2000 by making sure everything was working right, going to "red alert" at the highest levels of government, asking questions the whole way down the line, and telling everyone at the borders to be on the lookout. We eventually intercepted a guy with a car loaded with explosives coming in from Canada. If we're ready and we have assets in the right place, it is quite possible to stop people from getting in no matter how well organized the other side is. The problem is that right now our southern border is a gaping hole, and if someone tried to cross it, there's no reason to assume that the security apparatus which lets 3 million people cross per year will be able to stop a particular few who really are threatening.

QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 03:42 PM) Were the Saudis legally inside the United States? Some were, some were not...expired Visas, that sort of thing. 1 thing I always point out to people, since I have a hint of where this is going, is that just because a terror group used a particular method to enter the U.S. 1 time doesn't mean they won't use a different method the next time. For example, on Sept 11th, 2001, it was actually legal to carry box cutters and letter openers onto aircraft in the U.S. Clearly, that is no longer allowed, and it would be much more difficult to pull off an attack in that manner. The U.S. has made visa restrictions and rules much more stringent as compared with early 2001. It would be much harder for those same folks to enter the country now if they attempted to do so through normal, legal channels. If someone is wanting to get into this country and they think there's a risk they'll get interdicted if they try to cross into the country legally, the southern border is the next most logical option. If you're trying to bring 20 people across, and 3 million people cross that border every year, then the odds that you'll be caught are basically miniscule.

QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 03:32 PM) Were the people involved in the 9/11 attacks American citizens? No, mostly Saudis. The ones involved in the Oklahoma city attack were. And the U.S. has broken up several other domestic terror threats in recent years, including 1 group in Texas that was literally caught making preparations for what can only be described as a chemical weapons attack - they had more WMD's than Iraq.

QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 03:24 PM) Funny you should mention that -- I've been secretly hoping to see some retaliation this weekend, some good old fashioned smoke thrown inside at some of those pussies. And given Contreras' penchant for hitting batters...this could be fun! Anyone but Jose...I believe Jon and Mark can work around people getting on base, but Jose walks enough people as it is.

Most of the minutemen are exactly as Kip has described, or even worse. For example, 1 guy from the project has spoken before the "Council of Conservative Citizens", a group which has described African Americans as "A retrograde species of humanity" and which sells "White Pride" t shirts at their website, and has written LTE's to a paper in Arkansas talking about how Jews control the media and international banking/finance. That said, even though they don't belong there, they do have a point that the government needs to do something about the U.S. southern border. Estimates are that 3 million undocumented people will cross that border this year and enter the United States. If this country is genuinely concerned with preventing terrorism, it has to close that gaping hole. There is simply no more logical place for an actual terrorist to enter this country right now than the southern border. Given the availability of weapons in this country (even .50 cal weapons...big enough to take down a plane), it's only a matter of time before we're hurt because of that border in a big way.

CNN is reporting that R&B Legend Luther Vandross has passed away. From his Wikipedia entry...

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 03:16 PM) Steve Stone will never have a job on a widely followed show like SC or BBTN. Why? Because he tells it like it is and wont blindly plug the east coast teams or any of the other favored few teams in MLB. It's sad but true. He's still the best color man in the game, IMHO. God how I wish he could take Tim McCarver's seat in October.

QUOTE(GASHWOUND @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 02:14 PM) What are ya, nuts? and deny me the joy of waiting in line for days with my brethren..... Unfortunately, some of us are living on grad students salaries, and can't afford that joy. And ok, maybe it won't be 6 months, but within a year it'll be at $200, once Nintendo and Microsoft get their next generation platforms out. The exact amount of time it takes to get that low will probably be determined by the exact release date and how it sits in relation to Christmas. If it's released in the fall before the Christmas season, it'll be high through that season, and the price will probably start to drop by the next summer, and certainly by the next Christmas season. If it's released earlier in the year, the price will probably drop a little before the first Christmas season, but then will drop a lot faster after that X-Mas is over.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 02:23 PM) Another name to consider when discussing underrated starters: Livan Hernandez. If we were going to hand out awards, I think he'd get the nod. He did beat Prior today.

QUOTE(Jimenez4MVP @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 02:21 PM) Pushing a camera - 20 games Taking Steroids - 10 games Which is why some of us want Bud Selig's "Miss 1/4 of the season" steroid policy to become the rule next offseason. (If it doesn't, there's a good chance Congress will make it the olympic standard - 2 years on the first test)

Wait 6 months and it'll be 1/2 that price.

QUOTE(Jimenez4MVP @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 01:57 PM) Why? He didnt want the camera guys in his face.. and about your comment above.. I saw what happened.. pushing a camera off someones shoulder isnt gonna seriously hurt them.. I saw the replay, the guys is a little b**** trying to get money out of this I don't disagree that he's trying to get money out of it, but if you were injured by a multi-millionaire on camera, would you sit on your ass and not complain? And secondly, pushing a 30 pound camera off of someone's shoulder, someone who already had preexisiting back and neck conditions, is actually enough to hurt them. It's not life threatening, but that doesn't mean Rogers' actions weren't illegal, and that doesn't mean he shouldn't have to pay up for them.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 01:53 PM) I would rather make a few tweaks than to stand pat. There's a difference between a "Few Tweaks" and sending off McCarthy, Uribe, Anderson, Sweeney, Fields, or some combination of those items for a gigantic name (schmidt, Chavez, Oswalt, etc.). Sending off a guy like John Rauch was last year, who may never have a real strong future in the big leagues, in exchange for a small piece of the puzzle this year (i.e. another guy in the bullpen or a backup 1b), is a lot different from most of what's been said on this board.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 01:35 PM) Like I said on another board... I don't care if Bush puts a liberal judge up for nomination, the Dems are gonna rip this person a new asshole just for the press coverage. That's what's bull s*** about our system. I'll be shocked and amazed if that happens. Absolutely stunned. Hell, I'll be stunned if the nominee can even remotely be called a "moderate".

1 big note... He does have the ability to play in the all star game, and that doesn't count towards his suspension. I think that stinks and hope Francona keeps this in mind when picking his team.

I think everyone tries not to blame losses on umpires, but sometimes when it actually is their fault, and even MLB sees that (and starts some sort of investiagtion, the results of which we aren't privy to), then I think it becomes appropriate to complain about it. That series, a good chunk of it was their fault. Hell, remember the Crede @ short game? Why was he at Short? Because Oakland had pelted like 5 of our hitters in 2 games, without being warned, they threw an inside pitch to Uribe, who hurt himself twisting to get out of the way of the pitch. Why was Pablo not in? Because he was down after being hit by a pitch.

QUOTE(upnorthsox @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 01:33 PM) So then what you do before the all star break doesn't count? Quick, someone tell Gar and Burly that. That's not the point I was trying to make. The debate was over whether or not Willis helped them down the stretch and in the playoffs, and I was throwing some numbers at that point.