Balta1701

After 60 games in 2019, the Washington Nationals had a record of....27-33.

You can still keep places open that have drive throughs, curbside pickups to mitigate some of that. But yeah, the choice is going to come down to losing that sector of the economy or renewing outbreaks for the next year it seems.

Of course they're piggybacking on everything they possibly can. The groups at the more advanced levels are each trying different things, the Chinese version is a fully dead virus version, the other 2 are targeting the "Spike" proteins in various ways to teach the body how to attack those, and the reason those are somewhat understood is work on these things. It's also entirely possible that the first vaccine versions only offer partial protection, maybe limiting or reducing severe cases but not stopping it overall. I will agree with you that I'm somewhat worried about f***ery going on as well, so we'll see how the results are presented.

That's about what Texas was like in May and the first 20 days of June when the Governor was telling everyone it was safe and under control.

About 1/2 of the people around are still taking this seriously, and even though it moves very quickly, it doesn't move that quickly. It's a lot of rolls of the dice - a few people get it, pass it, and then eventually the chain hits a super-spreading event and now it explodes. It's like playing Yahtzee - every time someone rolls a true Yahtzee, you get a big increase, but it takes a lot of turns before that happens. I'll say this, living in one of these exploding states is terrifying. You get yourself ready for hitting 5000 cases in a day, and then the next day its 5990 and mentally you weren't prepared for 6000. You're used to 5 cases a day in your county, then one day there's 60, then a week later there's 120, and then that just becomes the norm.

So with all that here's a rundown. You being 47 does not make the risk appreciably different from 27 or from 57 based on what's out there. 1. If this country were being responsible, this trip would not be allowed from a public health point of view. There are too many states in real deep trouble right now - probably 25 should be back on stay at home orders and 10 are approaching hospital capacity crises today, but because our political system is irresponsible we can't do that. No state has cracked the code of "reopening while there are still cases out there" and tracing is failing because the systems are so poorly built and there's no national organization or help. States where you are traveling need to shut down until they Figure out what the Hell is going on. But, since they are open, you're allowed to. There are a couple legal matters you should consider in advance. First, what happens if a partial travel shutdown does occur while you are there? Second, the state of Illinois could impose a 14 day quarantine on travelers coming from those states, and that could appear while you are there so you might have no warning beforehand. If that were to happen, are you ok with it costing a full week of school? Frankly, I'm surprised it hasn't been put in place already. New York has done it, but they have to specifically worry about people traveling from Florida - maybe Illinois needs to identify some cases directly linked to travel before they do it, but it could absolutely happen. 2. The odds of someone in your family being exposed are high. You've listed the locations - hotels, restaurants even outdoors, planes, gas stations, hikes. Many will be short passes, but some won't, and even ones outdoors can have some risk, particularly restaurants since you have servers and other guests around. Whether that person receives a dose that is enough to get them sick depends on things mostly out of your control, including what safety precautions others take and basically luck (is the person near you on the plane sick, is the person in hotel line next to you sick). Whether the hotel in Vegas is the biggest risk probably depends on what the various outbreaks do over the next month, I'm not sure that's a far greater risk than any other hotel as long as you're not on the gambling floor. Flight risk is nonzero, depends on where people sit, but if you skip the flight and drive you have food stops and bathroom breaks that are all places where other people will be. So, you're likely to be exposed, and the chances of actually getting sick even if you do everything right are probably moderate, but difficult to estimate precisely, and unless Vegas explodes in cases in the next month, there's no spot you can skip that is going to dramatically lower the risk of exposure. 3. If someone in your family does get sick, with no pre-existing conditions, the chances of them dying are very low, probably 1 in 1000 or so give or take. So while you will likely survive, this probably does significantly raise the chances of someone dying on this trip compared to a trip in a normal year. 4. While the chances of dying are very low, the chances of someone getting very sick and perhaps suffering a permanent issue are noticeably higher. Still low, but definitely nonnegligible. The hospitalization rate has stayed pretty constant everywhere at 5-10% of the people getting it. Probably lower for your health group, but still several percent. The only thing that has reduced that rate is states lying about their data. That means someone could, reasonably, permanently lose their sense of smell or have permanent lung or kidney damage from this trip, and that is not an issue unlikely enough to be ignored. For example, we learned yesterday that Rudy Gobert of the Jazz still does not have his sense of smell back nearly 4 months after being infected, and he's an NBA athlete. I can't tell you what to do because my personal risk tolerance is different and my personal health situation colors that, but I think those are reasonable statements. Risk of exposure is high, you likely will cross paths with someone who has it. Risk of infection if you take care is lower, but still moderate. Unless specific spots become major outbreak centers, I don't think you can point at any location as of right now and say "This spot is an unusually high risk and we can improve our odds substantially by avoiding it". Risk of dying is very low, but higher than would be normal for this trip. Risk of serious complications is quite important to consider.

United also. So no distancing possible on those flights.

If there were actually an NFL season, Newton for $1 million or Foles for what, $20 million this year alone?

The governments of Texas, Florida, and Arizona declares that things were safe in April. They got praise from the president repeatedly, and Texas’s governor said he got specific approval for his reopening timeline from Dr. Birx. How’d that work out?

Every time you say "it's weird", it turns out to not be weird. Of course health departments have to worry about that. That's why you need to limit major events, because if 1 person picks it up it's a problem but not a crisis and local health departments can work to contain that and slow the spread, but if 50 people pick it up in an area you have a major problem. It's also why it's so important to get the total case loads low and keep them there, because otherwise it re-ignites, as you can see everywhere across the south.

One person would not infect the whole ballpark, but if they take their mask off to eat some peanuts and cheer, or cough while they’re in the bathroom, they might infect 5-30, and you don’t have any idea which ones they are. If only 15 of those show symptoms, then the other 15 go to work or bars or restaurants as normal, now you’ve built up another outbreak.

https://es.pn/3eCJ3qF Apparently the Rangers were also forcing all their employees to come into their office by saying “we don’t require you to come in but that’s a nice job you have I bet it would suck to lose it” and now their front office employees are getting sick. They were also using the building for some high school graduation ceremonies.

Do you mean “next time” or team? That last sentence is a bit odd. If you mean “next time”, we don’t know but we hope so. We’ve seen that there are some examples of people actually getting it a few months apart in this country since it’s spreading rapidly enough that people can actually be exposed a couple times, but no real way yet to do any sort of statistical analysis of those cases. One was reported from Dallas this week. It probably will be less intense if you get a second infection because the body knows how to fight it, but some of the severe cases are because the immune system overreacts, hard to know how common those would be on a second exposure (think about severe allergic responses for that, if you’re allergic to bee stings, the second time you get stung often triggers a more intense immune response than the first).

How high risk are you? Do you have good health insurance if you do get it? What airline? Are you ok with a lot of the park features being closed or unavailable? Like even the basic ones like visitor centers and guest shops? When you get back, can you do a 7 day quarantine before heading back to school/work? Stay away from grandparents, etc.? No runs to the grocery store for something, no housekeepers, no friends over, nothing where you might pass it on and create a chain if someone gets it and is asymptomatic? We just had an article today in the local paper about how Big Bend National Park has created an outbreak in the small rural community around it, even with the visitor center being closed, just from people driving in wanting to drive through the park when it's 115 degrees. If it were me I wouldn't go, but that's because I'm about to lose my health insurance and I'm in a high risk group medically for more than 1 reason. Take those issues away for you and maybe you can decide differently.

Glad they got that done, seemed almost certain but ya know until it's on paper you worry a little bit about that plan coming to fruition.

I can't be the only one who goes inside to use the restroom and buy a Dr. Pepper, am I?

Is this still Rick Hahn’s fault?

With what we saw in Feb and March, travel is a huge portion of the seeds for case explosion. Basically every case around me right now was imported from New York. With a lot of Louisiana stops in between. Whether we increase your spreading rate by 25% or 75%, you have to stop us if you want to stop the virus, it’s that simple. Travelers to your state will stop at restaurants and gas stations. We are sending you carloads of it right now, you just don’t know which car out of the next thousand it is.

Those are active infections right now, thank Florida.

But it’s safe for 8000 fans. We promise. Bennetti is just more important than them.

I think a few dozen is probably ok and I'd be pretty confident that Illinois could track down that many people if 1 tested positive to be able to test and quarantine all the rest.

This is a leak of medical info so not certain, but this sounds like it was one of the rounds of "Test everyone all at once" done before the league started its 14 day pre-season quarantine done on June 23. I think this is just right now. Edit: nvm, not a leak, here's your official version.

You're going to have to limit some of that travel otherwise i guarantee we're going to ship it right back to you.

Well S***. That's 5% of the league.

Has IL put in place any travel bans/quarantines of people coming from the yellow states?