Balta1701

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Huh? Orlando's population is nearly 300,000, so you're telling me 45,000 people have it right now in that city?

We have 20+ states that now have rising cases because they stuck their fingers in their ears and said "EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BE FINE I CAN'T HEAR YOU". Wishful thinking is running rampant. This is no different. They're going to try, and then they're going to have to figure out what to do when they get hit with outbreak after outbreak because it's so prevalent in this country. Who knows, they may decide they're ok with it as they go along, generally the athletes themselves are all in the "low to moderate risk age range". I will give the NBA some credit as a true "bubble" may still work.

The "Breathing the same air" thing might be reasonable if they were doing a "bubble" like the NBA, but they're not. Her'es the likely scenario we'll probably see. If people are getting exposed to families, if people are traveling, then it'll come in random bursts, just like we see right now with several Phillies being the first ones to get sick. You might go a week or two where no one gets it, then one player gets it, tests positive 3 days later, and by then they've already exposed 2 full ballclubs. So you quarantine them for 2 weeks using the backup players, and it turns out only 3 people have actually gotten it from them, so you quarantined a bunch of players who didn't get it, affected the season results, but then 26 of your regular 30 players are still able to be infected the next time someone gets it. The results of the regular season may well come down to which teams have the most/fewest outbreaks.

It's going to happen, but there's some huge problems if and when it does. You've got coaches and staff who are high risk, and probably some players who are too. We know that even among the so-called healthy groups, people die, or people get very sick. Pick a player on the White Sox, imagine them winding up on a ventilator 25 games into the season, how does that do for team morale or the season? And if you want the big one from the baseball perspective, imagine you're in the middle of the NLDS, one of the Dodgers gets it somewhere, and by the time it's recognized, 5 people have picked it up and the entire starting lineup for both teams have to do a 7 day quarantine. Do we just call off the series? There's no real answer to that.

1/4 of the University of Texas football team tested positive within the first week of return to workouts. Another 20% of the team is now in isolation for 2 weeks after having been in contact with positive cases. https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29329177/texas-says-13-football-players-test-positive-coronavirus?linkId=91182183

Deaths are also a lagging indicator. Patients test positive after about 5 days, but many of the deaths don't happen until after days 10-14, some of them wait until after day 21. Cases go up first. Then hospitalizations. Then deaths.

It's worth noting...he specifically blocked anyone from requiring masks including for businesses until yesterday when a judge from Bexar county pushed him on it and he just said "oh wait we should really allow this as we're in deep s***" so he pretended he's been allowing it all along.

But with rosters also expanding, keeping a full-time DH could be more practical again.

Black people.

That also could remove some of the deals teams make at the trade deadline because teams couldn't just move their higher salary players to competitive teams as easily.

So far, many of the cities that had major rallies in the North - Chicago, Philadelphia, New York, Washington DC have avoided major spikes in case numbers, and they should be showing up right now if they were going to happen.

Scheduling sports and being able to actually pull them off will be 2 very different things, particularly now that we're going to have half the country seeing skyrocketing cases over the next couple months.

When reopening started my County had an average of under 10 cases per day. Until last week we never had more than 50. 145 in the last 24 hours.

With the sheer number of people working on it, I think there's a real good chance there is one that is available and safe on a 6-9 month timescale, and even if it doesn't provide perfect immunity it provides some and buys time. The hurdle of finding enough people to test is being accomplished easily because everyone wants to be a part of the test if they can. Whether any specific country can produce and distribute enough to get a large fraction of its citizens covered is a different question.

I keep telling you...he is a coronavirus. He's doing everything he can to make sure it's a success here.

I gotta admit, being right in the middle of a true, uncontrolled exponential is a little stunning. Last Thursday we went from 1800 cases to 2500 in a day suddenly, then the next few days were almost that high. Yesterday we went from that 2500 peak to a blowout of 4100 on Tuesday. I was pretty sure we'd have a day that topped 3000 this week, but every jump is blowing out what I expect. https://www.kens5.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/san-antonio-coronavirus-latest-numbers-june-16/273-8d69db21-9248-460e-b57c-118eac27e5a7 That's about a 13% positive rate, although I'm not sure the state is publishing an honest count of the tests done any more, starting late last week they just said they met their 30,000 a day goal and then the numbers sorta stopped updating for a few days.

So what are you Cub fan? I mean, obviously you're a Cub fan, because you just came to a White Sox page, posted a graphic with no source link that included a "social mobility score" that is calculated as an average of retail/restaurant, grocery, workplace, public transit, and parks, and you didn't expect that I'm going to go find the raw numbers easily available online and find that for the first week of may, Retail/restaurants were down 20%, Transit was down 30%, workplaces were down 30%, and usage of parks was up by 80-150%, completely swamping out the other 3 items when you do nothing but calculate an average. You posted a clearly misleading graph and just expected White Sox fans wouldn't bother to Google easily confirmable numbers...classic Cub fan behavior. https://www.gstatic.com/covid19/mobility/2020-06-12_SE_Mobility_Report_en.pdf So aside from a cub fan, are you getting paid for this? Abbott or DeSantis's staff?

If we can't do this season without fans, then there needs to be a widely available and distributed vaccine next year or next year's season is even less likely.

Dude, literally every post of yours explains why the owners are saints.

That's the Sunday testing/reporting dropoff. If the office was closed on Sunday or at least had limited staff, they get in, they process the 1 test they've got, and then move on. Our county reported 20 positive tests yesterday, but 60 today, because they could only get the paperwork done on the first 20 before the reporting time. I'm not sure that they actually have the resources to process more than 60, so there's a chance today's number is still missing some because they have so many cases.

What I'd say is yes it's cheap and easy...but if you think it's important enough to do that, it's important enough to do things that are far more likely to be effective.

There's more to it than just that though...one person speaking can put out enough that it can probably infect someone, and that's outside of 6 feet, if it's in the right direction and you take the correct breath. It's unlikely in a single pass, but you're allowed to judge your own risk. Personally I've tried to keep a full street between me and everyone I pass while outside, because I'm in a high risk group.

I get why people want to do this as it's easy and does catch maybe 1/10 cases, but seriously this is such a weak response that I wish people would stop suggesting it. From the paper I posted ~2 days ago, basically all of the transmission clusters happened before people started showing a measurable fever.

I do think US football is actually the worst of any of them because of how the sport is played, but yeah, they're still going to have problems.