Balta1701

Umpires, coaches, broadcasting staff, and Don Cooper certainly aren't all healthy individuals. Some are, but some definitely aren't.

Based on where we currently are at...unless there really is an effect of hot weather (maybe?), someone from one of the active major sports will either be exposed this week or they already have been. But, it takes ~2 weeks for symptoms to show up, so by the end of this month, give or take, we'll probably be very likely to have someone in the major sports test positive. I do find it interesting that "Steph curry has the regular flu" was a thing yesterday which would somehow mean he had already gotten one of the golden tests that are so hard for everyone else to get.

So on the subject of this thread...I haven't seen any note here of what happens when a professional player gets diagnosed as having it, what does that do to the league? By the time they'd show signs of it, they'd have exposed their entire team and probably any opposing team, along with umpires, journalists, etc. Does this solution only work as long as no one gets sick on the teams?

If your whole message is why it isn't a big deal and that's part of the reason why it isn't a big deal, yeah I'll call you out for it.

"Will people get sick yes, will a few die probably" is language you might want to rethink using if you don't want to make someone feel you're saying that it's ok if they die.

a. It is certainly possible that this virus will struggle to survive more when it's hot, but we don't know enough to say for sure. Also, history has a lesson here. In 1918, the so-called "Spanish Flu" virus first appeared in the spring, and then its impact lessened over the summer, only to flare up to its real peak in the fall. b. We're not "Doomed", but we're shaping up for things to be very bad. The government is not coordinating responses to this at all and as a consequence different states are doing different things. Houston still is bringing tens of thousands of people to their rodeo every night. If the NCAA tournament games do happen, then yes infected people will show up. When these cases hit hospitals, the situation in those sites is going to be a nightmare. If your mood is "Don't panic" that's ok, but it should be with the qualifier "Don't panic, be prepared". What would you do if you if you couldn't shop for a few weeks? Is 8 rolls enough for you to get by for 2 months? I will admit I stocked up on TP, dog food, snacks, and a few other things last week.

The real trick remains - if on a scale of 1-10 you act like you're in the 6-8 range, then it's possible you will only need to be in the 2-3 range. If you instead say it's "no big deal, some people will die but that's it" and act in the 1-2 range...then you create a situation where you should have panicked more, because now you've allowed it to become more widespread more rapidly.

1. Evidence from Italy says this is absolutely wrong, that because no one has any immunity to this and it is more severe than the average flu, dramatically more people will die. 2. Even if it was true, letting 20,000 people die (less than an average flu season) would be something most would say is really bad. If there was a chemical weapons attack that killed 20,000 people in 2015, what would your reaction have been? Certainly not "This is no big deal". The degree to which your statements are callous and cold-blooded is rather astonishing. 3. From what we've already seen from this virus we know the reasons why people who are at risk being quarantined is not enough. First of all, it seems something like 1/3 to 1/2 of people who are infected show little to no effect, but they can still be contagious and serve as transmission vectors. Second, it seems the virus has about a 2 week incubation period before even the people who get seriously sick show symptoms, during that time they can still be contagious. For both of those reasons, even if the people who are critically sick, or people who are at risk quarantine themselves, that quarantine will be totally ineffective.

In the 2019 spring training, Edwin Encarnacion went 4/33 in recorded A games, for a .121 batting average and a .273 OPS. He hit 0 HR and had 13 strikeouts.

Gotcha, TY. Now that I understand what you meant...let's note immediately that the "Lombardy" setup in Italy wound up being such a failure that they have now been forced to expand the areal shutdown to half the country. Edit: apparently make that literally all of Italy now as of only this hour.

Um, Lombardy?

Just FYI, there is a high likelihood you're having people replying to you right now who are immunocompromised. In fact, I'd say it's virtually certain. So telling people that it's not a big deal when they know their own risk...may get those people replying to you and trying to make you care about why it's a big deal.

No it really isn't. It was a confined space, but once lots of people got sick there was rapid intervention and plenty of available medical supplies. That's why we're coming down on you right now - because there are far worse case scenarios building right now.

This is completely false. 7 people died. Even if all 3700 people on board were infected, the rate would have been 0.18%, and that ship was tested heavily.

No, it's actually not a guess, because by accident we have a controlled test study. The Diamond Princess cruise ship was tested heavily by countries other than us so in general we know the infection rate - it was about 700 people. There were 7 reported deaths from that cruise ship, with heavy intervention and full availability of medical care. It might be able to be a little better if you have a less-at-risk population, it could definitely be a lot higher if you run out of medical supplies or hospital beds, but that's a plausibly randomized test study.

The only way this is less lethal than the flu is due to appropriate application of mass hysteria.

And in case people haven't seen this thread:

That. That is the winning metaphor for this s***show.

The US death toll is currently 19. When the death toll in Wuhan was 19, The first two emergency hospitals were under construction.

Most likely the airlines will have good insurance and just because 4 planes were crashed into buildings doesn’t mean we will have them all go bankrupt if they’re not bailed out repeatedly. I mean, every business should have known that when we elected a completely unprepared executive branch they would replace the CDC leadership and then stick their heads in the sand during an outbreak because the numbers going up would make them look bad, that was just obvious.

If I've read the numbers correct there are something like 20 respirators per 100,000 people in this country. If you've got 100 seriously ill people in line waiting for those, then the death rate will be particularly high. If you're in a country that shuts itself down to slow how fast the cases develop, that knocks down the death rate because you can keep the seriously ill patients alive.

Completely the right call even if it will probably put half the city out of business. If we had a functioning federal government, it wouldn't be cities and businesses making these calls on their own. Austin can't print its own money to keep its local businesses afloat.