Balta1701

He testified personally that he attended parties with alcohol under questioning when he was 17 and handed over a calendar and took questions about that when he was 17 then also asserted he did not drink under age.

See above post from Friday.

There is at least one clear as daylight lie, FWIW. He handed over a calendar from when he was 17 showing him having 'skis. Under oath he claimed that he never drank under age. He was 17 at the time of the calendar in 1982. He further testified that the legal drinking age in Maryland was 18 at the time, and it was changed to 21 when he was 17 years old. So, provably based on the documents he handed over, he lied about drinking underage.

I think @southsider2k52k5 posted a tweet saying that the White Sox did what, the 2nd most overshifts in MLB or something along those lines just yesterday?

So while everything here seems out of date...I do think that fitting with our conversation yesterday about Madrigal there could be a good talk about launch angle somewhere, as that's one of the things he would benefit to be working on.

1993.

Astronaut Mae Jemison has a fear of heights.

Just imagine, Rick Renteria could make getting replaced by Joe Maddon part of his interview..."Hire me and in 3 years you'll be hiring Joe Maddon!"

I'm absolutely amazed at how much open race baiting there is on campaign ads in Texas. Who knew that the Lieutenant Governor and Senator from Texas were the key people in charge of whether or not someone kneels during the national anthem?

1. They could absolutely dump this one and put another nominee up for a vote and at this point probably get more votes, and get that done before the lame duck session ends. Kavanaugh was nominated less than 3 months ago. 3 months from now is when the new Senate gets started. If there hadn't been a credible rape allegation, this would have been done already. 2. Every time, literally every time, you try to say that a woman should have acted in a way you deem appropriate in response to an assault, and judge her based on the fact that she didn't live up to your standards of how you think that person should act...it is you who looks awful.

I've been surprised about films before, but my god Venom looks like the worst POS...

And Madrigal hit 40% fewer extra base hits than that pace by Sanchez. If you turned those strikeouts into normal contact at a reasonable rate, that would push Madrigal up to a .280 average or so and a low .700s OPS. That’s a decent big league player, but it already requires saying “assume a 40% increase in Madrigals power numbers”. he may very well get there but we need to stop doing the White Sox thing and saying he’ll be the starting 2b in 2020 and we need to clear Moncada out until we actually see some semblance of that happen. So let’s give him the time to do it before we race him up as the next savior.

Yolmer Sanchez hit 8 HR, 34 2b, and was tied for 2nd in the league in 3b.

My bad, I was trying to eyeball doubles + Hr and missed one, he had a ton of HR and my eye didn't catch that. Remove him from the list and leave Escobar and Martinez - those are the low strikeout guys with low power #'s.

If he's hitting 15 HR a year I think he'll be a really good player. I'm just skeptical that we're going to be talking about him at that level in 2020 or 2021, and if we're not talking about him at that level that quickly then Moncada isn't moving for him. Do people think he's going to flip that on like a lightswitch next year?

I don't think it's unfair to point at the part of their game where they need to improve and say "If they don't improve at this part of their game they won't be a quality big leaguer, so how much improvement can we expect and how quickly?"

I want to walk through Madrigal's game in reply. I would say that if his power game doesn't significantly improve, he's a backup player and definitely not a leadoff hitter, no matter how good his defense is at 2b. Without a power game, Yolmer will be a better 2b option than him, let alone Moncada. Start with where Madrigal is right now, a .300 hitter in the minors. Right now, he hit 0 home runs this year. Right away, 15 home runs would translate to 25 points of batting average and OBP that he's not getting, so that's 25 points lower each of those numbers are compared to a ballplayer who could hit those. Beyond that, the fewest strikeouts by a qualified player in the big leagues this year was Andrelton Simmons with 44. Madrigal is on pace that would give him about 18 over a 600 PA season. I would strongly guess that, like it or not, Madrigal will strikeout more in the big leagues than in the low minors. You get to the big leagues and there's the occasional Chris Sale there and there's just nothing you can do about it. So, take his strikeout numbers right now and let's let them move up to where Simmons is at, that's another 15 points of batting average drop. Then we have the fielders. Andrelton Simmons isn't in the minors either. The fielding is better in the big leagues. That's gonna rob a few points of batting average also. Then, finally, and I think this is a big one - if he's not playing the power game, then he's also not going to be doubling off the wall. He's not going to be hitting balls in the gap. He's going to be relying on balls on the ground or bloops getting through and this doesn't work in the big leagues that well. His groudout to flyout ratio right now, from last year, would compete with the worst in the big leagues - Ian Desmond led the league in that last year and he hit .236. If guys don't respect that you're going to hit the ball over their head, they'll play in and they'll rob you of the shallow hits, and they'll shift and take away some hits on the ground. The guys who are putting up as few extra base hits (HR + 2b + 3b) as him are guys who are hitting .250 or so, Victor Martinez, Alcides Escobar, Travis Shaw, these guys aren't that good and some of those guys have pretty low K numbers too. He has a strong hit tool, I will grant you that, but without some power development he is not going to be a #1 or #2 hitter, he'll be a backup or a guy you bury at the back of your order.

Buehler needed Tommy John Surgery when he was drafted. Regardless of how poorly I think we treated Fulmer, and regardless of the fact that the White Sox were trying to draft someone they could call up immediately to save their competitive team again and TJS couldn't have helped with that important problem, we weren't taking him at #9 with that injury.

I'm skeptical about Madrigal moving as quickly as you folks think. It's all about one tool in his game - power. If he comes back next year with a power game, then he could move up rapidly as you think, but it the power game doesn't show up immediately, his hit tool will be big league quality quickly but it would be a punchless hit tool. He'll hit decently at every level, but the thing that will determine whether we want him as a big league starter is power, and do we really think that's just going to appear in one season?

If this team hits the time when their lease runs out, under new ownership, and it has been 20 years of them losing and they're drawing worse than the A's, and the entire generation under 20 has known the White Sox as losers they don't care about, then it could darn well happen and that will be the final legacy of Rick Hahn. So...he better darn well win something with the guys he traded for, because if he didn't, if things in 2 years look as rough as they do now, that's where this franchise will be in 7-10 years, talking about moving because they no longer have a fanbase after such an incredible streak of losing.

yeah reread. They can't do what the White Sox tried to do in '15 and '16, have 5+ crappy positions where they try to win them all with the free agent market. All of these teams tell us that it is ok to go for a few positions via FA, but you have to be ready for one or two of your big money FAs to be surprisingly terrible. If you play for 5-8 positions, then most of them will bust and your team will as well. Your team needs to be a 90 win team from what you develop, winning the division and a playoff spot without that help, and the FA and Trade guys you acquire at 2 or 3 positions have to be the guys that push you to 95-105 wins depending on how they do.

I can root for us to win tomorrow!

I very much disagree that he will be a major rotation part. If he's a major rotation part, it's for 2021 alone and nothing else because then he'll hit free agency and as I said above, I seriously doubt the 2020 roster. The only way he's re-signable is if he isn't better than a mid-rotation starter, which is what he is right now.

2020 was unfair the day Kopech got hurt. If Kopech was a true ace at the top of the rotation, Kopech in full year 2, Lopez, Rodon, Giolito, and Cease and others as rookies - that's a rotation that could be the best in the league. That's a rotation that could be great. Rodon, Lopez, Giolito, a recovering Kopech, and Cease and Rookies at the back - that could be a tolerable rotation, but it's not carrying you to the playoffs, so you better have a great offense and defense, and we won't. So, If Rodon becomes tradeable for the right price next year, that's why moving him is the right move.