Milkman delivers

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 03:26 PM) People are going to be confused as f*** if you're posting with out the Hennig avy. I know. s***, it's gotta be over 5 years since it's been changed.

Ah, much better!

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 03:13 PM) You can use this one: I'm depending on Steve to field this one for me, as I've never used Photoshop. Steve?

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 03:09 PM) Outside of hot chicks and long time avatars, I dont even notice anybody's Same here. It sucks sometimes because someone will use an avatar that looks very similar to another person's, so I'll read something thinking it's another person writing it. It's odd how accustomed we can get to other people's writing styles, though. Often times I can read a post without seeing the name or avatar and know who it is.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 02:52 PM) Damn, shack is going crazy. Just channel your emotions like me. I will sport my new Joe avy for the rest of '11 as a show of support. The venom being spewed at this man is disgusting. On the flip side of this, if someone will use Photoshop to create a picture of Paterno with a blatantly false title of "PEDOPHILE" right across it, I will gladly use it through the end of the NCAA football season. Any takers?

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 02:37 PM) But it wouldn't have saved "all the victims" after 2002, would it? Tough to say. If someone murdered Hitler as a child, it might not have prevented the Holocaust, but it certainly might have helped. Godwin's Law successfully administered.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 02:36 PM) PR depts in overdrive: UCF admit NCAA violations, AD fired Oregon releases documents relating to paying for players Ray Ray Armstrong gets suspended for meeting with PR firm and having free dinner OSU imposes scholarship penalties over the next 3 year period with NCAA, ruling due soon If anyone else was smart you would air all your dirty laundry this week if possible. That seems to be exactly what they're doing. Good call, too. That Oregon one seems like it should definitely get some looks, though.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 02:32 PM) Where is that from? Space.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 02:27 PM) Bulls***. Only indefensible to everyone on their obviously poorly constructed, falling-apart high horses. Like this one?

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 02:25 PM) No, I'm really not. I'm asking you that if the police already knew about Sandusky, what good would it do if Joe Paterno told them he heard from someone else that Sandusky raped a child? It would have done a lot of good for Joe Paterno, that's for sure. He'd still have a job.

QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 02:21 PM) Just to drive this home tex, if one of your scout masters told you they saw a boy get raped, and you told your superiors, then continued to see that man around business as usual for years, and then a scandal hit showing that he was continuing to rape boys... people may ask that you no longer hold that duty. And in that scenario, you didn't get raped, you aren't going to jail, you just lost your job. Poor you. You are clearly the biggest victim here. Joe Paterno was the most powerful man in Happy Valley. Without a doubt. Within his football administration was a man serially raping young boys in large numbers, none yet completely known. At some point, he was told about this. No criminal charges were ever filed against this man. The public gets notified. He loses his job. The serial rapist being around is the problem here. All those that knew are tainted. You can't move on without removing that stain. Hopefully, those victims can. But no, I don't care that poor Joe Paterno has to retire comfortably in his old age. He is not the victim here. Awesome.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 02:18 PM) It's not conjecture that the police and the DA were made aware of Sandusky showering with a young boy and failed to prosecute him for it. If that is indeed the case, that they were aware, what legal ramifications do you believe could have come from Paterno calling the police and telling them that he was told by someone else that they witnessed Sandusky raping a child? But, it's conjecture that they did nothing. In fact, they actively investigated it and even had a detective listen in on a conversation between the mother of one of the victims and Sandusky himself. For all you or anyone knows right now, the case had to be dropped on some technicality. Here you go bringing in the legal aspect of the case with Paterno, which has nothing to do with why he was fired. It's been said about 403 teams in this thread.

HOLY f***ING s***!

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 02:15 PM) That's a slippery slope I do not want to be a part of. You and Joe Paterno. BAM!

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 02:10 PM) You don't know s*** about what happened as of right now. You simply don't. None of us do. But you go ahead and sit on your high horse right now, and tell anyone who thinks that just maybe we should wait and see what the hell was really going on there for the last 15 years that we are moral failures too, Balta. Because you know. Hell, you are the great moral adjudicator. Throw out his 65 years of coaching. Throw out the tens of thousands of young men, their wives, girlfriends, and families that he has helped. Because I am absolutely convinced that his entire life up until this point has been a complete farce, and all the stories about Paterno being a great human being are just all bulls***. The guy made a mistake. He should have done more. Hell, the goddamned police and the DA, you know, those that the taxpayers fund their paychecks? They did nothing. Those that get specific training to handle criminals like Sandusky? They did nothing. But let's spend all our time deliberating whether the football coach should coach one game or three games. Let's speculate just how much involvement he might or probably had, before just allowing the facts to actually come out. You are ridiculous. Conjecture, the same as you're condemning others for using. For all we know, the DA decided that the evidence gathered by the police would be considered inadmissible and that's the reason nothing came of it.

QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 02:00 PM) How dare people form opinions based off primary and news sources instead of hypothetical moral candyland Foolish, foolish sheep.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 01:55 PM) I don't have to rationalize anything...I'm sitting here incredulous that Balta has already condemned and convicted Paterno of everything but child molestation himself, which, btw, Milk is now hoping happens.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 01:54 PM) Over pay him. Give him mad deferred payment and a players option. I don't care. I just love Mark to much to stomach the thought of him in another uniform. No, do not do this. I can stomach Buehrle in another uniform, but only a certain few and under the right circumstances. I don't want him to turn out to be a hypocrite, but I'm afraid that that's exactly what he'll prove to be.

QUOTE (flavum @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 11:26 AM) Uh...no. You have Peavy, Danks, and Floyd in their contract years, Humber and Sale, and a pretty decent bullpen. Along with unmovable contracts in Dunn and Rios. They try to win next year by having everything go right. If it doesn't, they have the trade deadline and next offseason to continue the dismantling. Will it suck to have Buehrle leave? Yeah, kind of. But by no means do I want them to give him 3 guaranteed years at this point. How do you pronounce your name? Flay-vum or flah-vum?

For once, I would love to see the Sox bend somebody over a barrel in a trade. It seems that we're seeing teams more and more make a trade that gets people saying, "I can't believe they gave up that much." I want us to have at least one of those.

And that b**** looks like she believes she's a werewolf. I'd never considered what a person like that would look like before, but it's unquestionable upon seeing her.

QUOTE (farmteam @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 12:40 PM) Here's a tip: Never travel across the country to have sex with a woman who thinks she's a werewolf. I only wish you had bestowed this pearl of wisdom on me a few weeks ago. Things would be rather different today...

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 12:51 PM) I had trouble getting a list together too. Did some google searching to refresh my mind. My list ended up being almost all movie villains I'd say mine is about 20 movie characters, then a couple TV/book/comic book/graphic novel villains.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 01:51 PM) I'm pretty sure is was a hypothetical to illustrate a point, not serious speculation of what happened. You've blown it completely out of proportion to rationalize your position. Yes.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 01:47 PM) What I'm saying is the fact that some are actually speculating about it is evidence that the media coverage is influencing peoples' imaginations to run wild about what Paterno might have done, regardless of what the actual known facts are as of this time. I gotta be honest. I now hope that they uncover some evidence that Paterno was a child molester. That'd make this whole thread that much more epic.