Milkman delivers

So, is someone trying to contact the writer?

Great, an ignorant comment from the sole Guillen family member that I respected. And we don't even have a chance to defend ourselves from a blatant lie.

QUOTE (mmmmmbeeer @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 11:20 PM) I'm digging that storyline personally. Aaron Paul, who I assume has never been strung out on anything, is just doing a ridiculously great acting job. I think outside of Gus, he's my favorite character in the show. Walt is getting on my nerves, which I suppose he's supposed to being he's turned into a "bad" guy. The car wash deal is actually my least favorite storyline....I mean christ, you've got to find a way to launder money, it's really not that exciting. We need more Gus and Mike....I missed them both dearly in this week's episode. I like character of Gus, but I also want him to get his and I'm sure he will. I'd have to say that Mike is my favorite character.

WHY do you people argue who is worse, honestly? They are both not very good, and they both ought to be fired. Does anybody disagree that they both should be fired?

QUOTE (dpd9189 @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 08:31 PM) Brutal. Absolutely brutal. What does everyone think the Yankees final run total will be tonight? I'm guessing 18 Hey, good job. And I suggest everyone add the statement in my sig to all of yours.

LOL I just went to whitesox.com to check the score, and I laughed my ass off. This is awesome!

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 05:58 PM) If they make the playoffs this year, wouldn't that be considered future success with this management team??? To get this team into the playoffs, Ozzie would have do something right over the next two months & KW's busts would have to start playing like they were supposed to. If they get in, it would almost certainly be due to us being the tallest midget. Every other team just somehow played worse.

Like fathom said, both should go. I just think KW is SLIGHTLY less deserving.

Greg and Marty (with the possibility of SS2k5?) are the only people left on the site that don't believe Ozzie needs to go.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 05:49 PM) It simply means that nobody wanted to give equivelant value for Quentin or Thornton before the trade deadline. Or, more likely, the series against the Tigers caused them to think that they maybe had a chance.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 05:44 PM) The negatives of turning into the Royals or Pirates don't out weigh them Ah, see? One of the two responses that I expected

I agree completely. Most would likely say that Santos has to be untouchable, but as another poster mentioned recently, we're pretty good at developing or finding relief talent. If someone will pay up for Sergio, jump on it. EDIT: I meant to say that only Sale should be untouchable.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 05:32 PM) 21,661 in attendance last night says "not so many" I was there, and there is no way that the actual number in attendance was that high.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 04:16 PM) Maybe because this is like the 10th Planet of the Apes attempt? You said, "With movie making today?" The last attempt was 10 years ago. The next one was 38 years ago. Plus it's getting good reviews. I see no reason to think that this won't be good, and that they can't cover both elements in the movie.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 05:25 PM) Except there's no way to foresee Carlos Quentin doing that to himself. Had Quentin gone into that offseason healthy, I still think there's at least a 35-45% chance we could have taken out the Rays. But because we were missing Crede (Uribe was filling in more than adequately), Contreras was a non-factor, CQ, and then the scrambled rotation because of the 4 man and having to win on turf as the Rays had the home field...it's not like we were completely blown out. We had leads in both of those first two games. It's not like we were the Cubs or (typical) Twins that post-season. All of these ifs and buts. It doesn't change what happened or where we find ourselves right now. We're looking at a restructuring that could have been started years ago at the price of one measly playoff victory.

QUOTE (jenksfart @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 05:22 PM) Jerry Reinsdorf, I am just a minion who is overly concerned with adult men playing a kid's game. I have no life, so I post on message board forums. I am working on my post count rather than spend good quality free time with friends or family. With that said. I am expert at making decisions for an organization that is worth in the hundreds of millions. Please Fire Ozzie. Please Fire Kenny. After that, I will send you my off-season plan of refacing this roster. Please reply asap. My shift at Dicks Sporting Goods starts soon. Well, this guy adds a lot! Ban, please.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 05:10 PM) I won't root against them making the playoffs for one simple reason, we were in similar looking circumstances in 2007 and turned things around in one offseason enough to win 89 games the next season. Of course, we didn't have the burdens of the Peavy/Dunn/Rios deals weighing down future payrolls at that time. We still had something of a carryover effect from the 2005 World Series where fan "goodwill" was much higher than it is now. But we could have easily let Buehrle and Dye go that at time and started rebuilding. There were the rookie seasons of Fields/Owens/Wasserman that were fun to follow and gave hope for the future. Would we have been better off totally deconcstructing the team back then? I don't think so, although you could argue all the moves (Quentin/Floyd/Danks/Ramirez) that made us a playoff team in 2008 should have been put in place for a rebuilding effort just as relevantly as a "reload." Just the final week of 2008 and Game 163 (finally taking down the Twins) was worth it from my perspective. Looking back, if we had parted ways with Mark Buehrle at that point (in 2007), can we automatically assume we would be better off right now? I doubt it. Unequivocally yes. Sure, we wouldn't have that one meaningless playoff appearance in which the Rays urinated on us, but we'd be years into the rebuild that we are currently looking down the barrel of.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 04:18 PM) I still don't get how people can root against making the playoffs. Your hatred of a coach/gm overwhelms your wishes for team success??? Do you root for a team or just for the coaching staff? Because the positives of cleaning house far outweigh the "real" possibilities of making the playoffs. I know, people will come out with the 2006 Cardinals argument. But we all know that that isn't going to happen. And others will say that cleaning house won't ensure any future success. And again, we all know that we will have no future success with this current management team.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 04:09 PM) Only to fulfill the final season of his contract. That would also depend on what the Cardinals do with LaRussa. If LaRussa is available next season then I think Jerry says goodbye to Ozzie. Maybe they trade him to the Marlins. Even if the season tanks, does it really guarantee any firings? Maybe not. JR's loyalty/nepotism might be his biggest weakness. That could be the reason why this organization is in such a decline. There is certainly a much better chance of cleaning house if they don't make the playoffs. And I want that.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 03:57 PM) People assume winning a division in professional sports is some type of job security. I think only a World Series or the championship series will save them. If they win this division it will be because they didn't win it, just some other team lost it. You honestly don't believe they'd bring Ozzie back if they won the division? I am about 100% sure that he would be back.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 03:55 PM) With movie making today? I doubt it. I could be wrong, but it will be a Redbox at best. I don't get why people are so God damned jaded anymore. A lot of good movies are still made.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 03:51 PM) I was more interested until I saw the previews. The idea sounded cool, but it looks like monkeys goring cities. Meh. I'd rather have seen the process of how they got to that point versus everyone getting their faces ripped off. The commercials seem to imply that they will do both of those things. Can't have both? QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 03:52 PM) The main ape is played by Andy Serkis. Indeed, and he's pretty good.

They look hit or miss in the previews. Some look real and others very fake. I dislike CGI as well, but one thing I CAN say is that they're definitely getting there.

Why do you say that it's surprising? I wasn't interested when I first heard about it, but the previews have really made it look appealing.