Milkman delivers

Cowboy Song by Thin Lizzy is an extremely underplayed and unknown song for how f***ing awesome it is.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jun 30, 2011 -> 10:21 AM) I dont know why I didnt like it. The concept was VERY interesting. I like that. I think, maybe, I had different expectations of what it would be. I dunno. Maybe if the main human character wasnt so annoying I would have liked it more. I loved the movie but hated how big of a p**** the main guy was. When he escaped from the lab where they were about to dissect him alive, I couldn't fathom how he didn't kill the people who were going to do it. I consider myself a pretty good person, but I can't even describe the things I would do to a person who was about to kill me if I turned the tables on them.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 30, 2011 -> 08:10 AM) Again...worth adding is the comparison to the rest of the league. I'm harping on this a lot lately...but offense is way, way, way down everywhere. In 2005, the White Sox staff put up a 3.61 ERA, and that was tied with Cleveland for the best in the AL, Houston and St. Louis were better, and the best ERA in the league was 3.49. In 2011, the White Sox staff has put up a 3.84 ERA, and that's good for 14th best in baseball (strangely, 13th best is Cleveland, 0.01 runs better than us). The best ERA in the league is 2.98. The average ERA this year is 3.83, in 2005 it was 4.28. Offense is down. A lot. Hawk was noting last night I think that he's never seen so many 2-1 and 1-0 games. For once, he's right, we haven't seen this level of offensive performance since baseball got "Big". Whoa, who's at 2.98?

As much as this topic annoys me, it's still kind of funny how badly it's gone so far.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 01:11 PM) Ozzie is so hypocritical on this issue, thats why no one respects it. After they pulled Rios, half the team dogged it to first on pop outs, fly outs etc. That means the benching made 0 impact. Even worse, the player who replaced Rios didnt even give 100% on a live ball in extra innings. If you are going to bench guys for not running to first base, you have to bench AJ, Konerko, Q, Ramirez and every other player who doesnt give 100% on a pop up. If you want to bench Rios because he hasnt been performing, just say it. But all Ozzie did was create a double standard. My guess is that he has completely lost the team. I just get a terrible vibe from the entire team right now. Like.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 03:36 PM) Holy s***, Pudge was juiced out of his gourd. It takes no more than the eye test to know that one. The fact that he lost about 30 pounds during the offseason before they began drug testing in order to "be more mobile behind the plate" was the most hilarious and obvious lie I'd ever heard in baseball.

QUOTE (Real @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 11:55 AM) I'm waiting for someone to show me more than 1 or 2 people proclaiming Dunn would hit .176 as a Sox player. And I'm sure if I knew any scouts or sports writers, I could get them to confirm that those 1 or 2 people would be crazy for thinking that. It simply wasn't a realistic prediction, I'm not sure how you can even refute that. What are you talking about? You said that nobody saw it coming and then you were provided with proof that some people did. Admit you were wrong and that's it.

QUOTE (Real @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 11:47 AM) I'd love to see this, link? I'm not going back and finding them. This was over the course of the entire offseason and I'm here everyday. People definitely chimed in once in a while with that prediction. Downtownpanther was one of them for sure, but he's a Tigers fan.

QUOTE (Real @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 11:43 AM) I'd still rather keep Kenny than Ozzie. Ozzie's been nothing but problems the last few years, a lot of it having to do with his f***ing family being interjected into his job as the Sox manager. The two things should've never be allowed to overlap, something Jerry should've put his foot down over years ago. Kenny's worst acquisition (and one that I actually supported) is probably Rios, as at the time I wasn't aware of his lackadaisical effort, "I'll play hard when I feel like it" mentality.. I just thought he was an all star outfielder who can hit about .280.. I wanted Peavy as did about 95% of the posters on this site, and being unaware of any arm injuries beyond a brief DL stint in SD for elbow soreness (which MRI's showed no damage..), I didn't have any beef with that acquisition and I was really excited about it. And when he's actually been able to pitch for us, he's been pretty damn good.. Crain was a good signing, and Dunn was a good signing (though the red flags were there, like moving to a new league playing a new position (read: Waiting in Dugout with bat in-hand)), nobody predicted this would happen.. NOBODY. So you can't use hindsight with the Dunn signing, because what's happening now (even with the red flags) was simply not predicted by anyone to happen Getting Alexei, Viciedo.. two guys who weren't coveted by anybody in the majors... well, those are pretty obvious to me at this point to be great signs, nobody can argue that This is hyperbole. There were people who predicted that Dunn would fall flat on his face. I did not, but there were a few people.

QUOTE (Real @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 11:34 AM) Search my posts, I predicted this would happen He's not an everyday player (Neither is Juan Pierre, for that matter) Problem is, we don't need Lillibridge and Pierre on the roster. Just Lillibridge, as he's better defensively, and can play more positions, and he's younger. Pierre is literally useless to this team, he provides no value (and, statistically.. less than no value) You and everyone else. Everybody knows that Lillibridge isn't a legitimate starter, but he was the best option for a while.

I'm liking what Ozzie said and did, but he has to continue to do the right things. QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 10:32 AM) You mean the guy who frequently starts rounding the base on a routine grounder so he has an easier jog back to the dugout? Very few players bust it down the line for the Sox. I know DA commonly refers to an article a few years ago where a scout said Sox were hardest team to get home to first times due to their lack of hustle. We all love Konerko, but let's not pretend like he doesn't do his fair share of loafing to first on routine pop ups. Maybe the one thing I admire about Jeter, besides getting to sleep with Minka Kelly, is that no one in baseball hustles more than he does. This team does not hustle at all down the line. One guy I can recall that almost always did, despite being a large man, was Thome. I don't think I've ever seen Konerko run hard (relatively speaking) to first, and AJ hardly ever does either. Rios is definitely the worst.

It would take a .575 winning percentage the rest of the season to win just 85 games.

Agreed.

I don't disagree...I think?

It sounds like Rios is in Ozzie's doghouse. I wonder where this leads, as we all know that you don't get out once you're in.

QUOTE (MAX @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 12:07 AM) Well if you weren't fixated on the media being fixated on it, maybe you'd notice that he is a great player. How many outfielders are there in baseball right now with a career ops over .900? Ugh, whatever you say in regards to the fixation part. And let's not forget that the guy has played just over 3 seasons worth of games. That takes a bit away from him being on the list of current guys with .900 OPS's. His current season isn't spectacular, and he's already been hurt again.

QUOTE (danman31 @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 10:47 PM) I loved the Watchmen movie and thought its ending was far better than the ending in the graphic novel. I watched the movie first, and I understand why people have complaints about turning it into a movie, but I really enjoyed the movie. I think it showed what it needed to, erased a few unnecessary storylines that couldn't fit into the time constraints of a movie and maintained most of the character intricacies. Rorschach was fantastic in the movie. I realize I'm in the minority with saying the movie did the graphic novel a justice, but I truly believe it. It was a great read that was well thought out so I can see how it's almost offensive to trim it down, but I think the movie was still a fantastic story with good visuals and strong characters. I think it's just overkill at this point. Did we really need a Green Lantern movie? ---- I saw the new X Men movied last night. I thought it was as mediocre as the previous versions, not including the solid Wolverine movie. Some things were very good. I liked McAvoy as Xavier a lot, but I was hoping for a little more from the relationships. A few of the things didn't really jive with the other movies. I think I just had my expectations set a bit too high. I found it to be average in a lot of ways. I loved Watchmen. And I'm pretty sure that the new X-Men wasn't supposed to be connected to the other ones, so the differences in storylines didn't matter.

QUOTE (MAX @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 11:59 PM) I don't agree. He was simply the best player in the game last year (or at least one of them). He batted .100 points over bautista last year and outslugged him. Hamilton has been doing well for a longer period of time. If you guys are fixated on his past drug use, that's fine. I look at him as a baseball player and see him as perhaps the leagues greatest talent. WE'RE fixated on his past drug use? It's the media that is. I don't give a s*** about his drug abuse and I don't want to be reminded of how he's a "hero" or as great "story" because of it constantly, but I am regularly.

QUOTE (MAX @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 11:45 PM) This is a baseless comment. I think he is living off last year's amazing season, not his post addiction life. It's not baseless at all. The only reason he's anywhere near as famous as he is now is because of his heroin addiction. Look at what Bautista has done, and he's still not even close to the commodity that Hamilton is. Now, imagine that Bautista overcame a meth addiction. He'd be everywhere (unbearably), just like Hamilton.

QUOTE (VAfan @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 08:01 PM) Ok, I'll bite. I wouldn't get rid of either of them. I don't think the Sox are out of the race by any means. And they certainly aren't going to get back in the race by firing KW or Ozzie Guillen. In my view, things could be a LOT WORSE. Didn't we let Tony LaRussa go? How did that work out? Ozzie is an unconventional manager, and KW is an unconventional GM. But I would never count either one of them out. They are both intensely competitive. They bleed for the Sox. And for all the bad moves and bonehead deals, there are counter moves and good deals to balance them out and keep us competitive. I would ask anyone who has posted here to name the replacement for Ozzie or KW that is currently available, and then explain why that person is better and would clearly improve the Sox. It's easy to say "blow it up." It's much harder to figure out how to put it together again. We also let Jerry Manuel go? How did that work out?

What do people have against comic book movies? I'm not including Transformers in this question, but rather superhero movies. In the last 10 years or so, I have found the majority of comic book movies to be good. And the good ones are usually very, very good. I've gone so far as to say that this genre of movie is joining Westerns and gangster films as the American movie genres. In fact, it's sort of taking their place since those other two have waned over the years. Good Westerns or gangster movies only come out every few years anymore.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 03:48 PM) Oney Guillen calling someone classless is the definition of irony. I don't hate Ozzie as a person nearly as much as I hate his children in that way, but I strongly dislike him as a person because I know that he made them the people they are.

Nothing could happen to the Guillens that I'd feel bad about. I truly hate them all.

I know one person who will be interested, but I'm watching the entire run of The Critic on Netflix currently.

QUOTE (mmmmmbeeer @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 01:52 PM) Outside of maybe last season, I think we've all headed into each season thinking we have a decent to good team, certainly good enough to win this division. You could say that that proves nothing but that we had good teams on paper, and that would be true, but isn't that a GM's job? If my neighbor gave me all his woodworking tools and I couldn't build a table because I'm not skilled enough to build one, is it his fault? Blaming Kenny for solid "on paper" teams not performing is making me question what exactly Ozzie's job is if it isn't to use the tools given to him to win a division. That's a pretty awesome way of putting it.