toasty

i dont see missing out on m-cabrera as that big of a suprise to KW, so i cant think he was making plans around a guaranteed trade (nor do i believe that he could have/would have given m-cab's name to Dye in the middle of the season) -- i think it had to be more of a "hey! look! let's see if we can pull one over on the marlins!" when in reality, KW knew there was no way to compete with other offers. I think that's one of the reasons he has said they plan to focus on FA signings. That being said, the rumor mill made the sox's chances of landing m-cab much larger than they actually were. (i picture this mind-picture: the sox's offseason is like KW going down a hiking trail, and the m-cab deal was like him all of the sudden chasing a butterfly off the normal path.... now the butterfly has been captured by another hiker, and KW returns to the hiking trail)

QUOTE(Texsox @ Nov 21, 2007 -> 02:01 PM) The end result would be the same, so why give him the money sooner? A career ending injury could occur. I think you are right, it is the correct way to analyze the contract, he seems by year four everyone is overpaid by performance or underpaid by what other guys who have signed new contracts are getting. Would any hometown discount be the Rangers, the Twins, or Pine Bluff AR? i wonder, if it would entice him more to build in escalators based on playing performance or lack of DL stints to add a 6th year. obviously it would have to be a good escalator clause so we dont get hosed, but if it's right, i dont see a problem with it.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Nov 19, 2007 -> 04:29 PM) Not that it matters, but Levine said he was positive Konerko was going to be dealt. but to who? i would have figured the angels, but we just completed a deal with them. to the dodgers, then?? eh, dunno.

QUOTE(elrockinMT @ Nov 19, 2007 -> 04:29 PM) With "anoher deal imminent," being reported and Uribe possibly being shopped what are we going to see? I see us opening more holes, but Hunter in CF would be nice, but I like A-Row also. Uribe would be a real good super sub, but at $4.5M that probably won't happen. I don't see him as a 2B option either and it doesn't sound like KW does either and that's what counts obviously. Richar seems to be the leading candidate to stay at 2B. I see Crede or Fields as possible trade chips and we need help in the bullpen. Could that come from Japan? The move for Cabrera opens up more questions. I don't have a problem with Cabrera, but wish it was Contreras was the one that went in the deal and not Jon. Is Contreras still a trade option for the Sox? from what quote i saw from a-row, i dont think he's going to end up here. maybe it's just the way he was quoted, but he was quoted as basically saying, yeah, i talked to kenny. no comment.

QUOTE(103 mph screwball @ Oct 31, 2007 -> 07:45 PM) This kid is going to make some other team's fans very happy. I agree. He has been jerked around here. BA was the 'on the rebound' CF after rowand... expectations were too high on him. not surprising he's been left out to dry

i dont neccessarily like the return for mack, but we have too friggen many super-sub utility types on this team it's good to get one gone

are we not expecting ozuna to come back healty next year? he's cheaper than mack, and no worse in the field

QUOTE(daa84 @ Jul 31, 2007 -> 01:25 PM) just heard on the radio (espn1000) during the eric kasilias (sp?) and screamin a smith show (two of my least favorite people) that reports out of CHICAGO were that dye for manny delcarmen was close....dont know what that means.. but it makes sense if the bosox get gagne...also the red sox traded piniero, so they have another spot for an arm in the pen its quite likely they are referencing the suntimes article that seems to have been written with information from monday morning before boston said no to delcarmen and willymo for dye

QUOTE(Al Lopez's Ghost @ Jul 31, 2007 -> 05:35 AM) From today's Sun-Times: http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/wh...trade31.article this is old news already... seems to be the same info that was posted yesterday afternoon, before boston said they wouldnt give up delcarmen

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jul 30, 2007 -> 04:14 PM) FYI This would say a move is coming. nah, the o's just think they fleeced everybody 'cuz he is the long-lost- molina brother!

QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Jul 30, 2007 -> 04:24 PM) by what time tomorrow do trades have to be submitted to the commissioner's office? the trades need to be submitted by the deadline (2 central, 3 eastern) but not neccessarly signed/completed

hmmm... wonder how many games he'll get at SS this year.... if he can play ss, i'd be in favor of moving him over and bringing back gooch......

the braves are not going to give up salty for a jenks. no way.

QUOTE(iamshack @ Jul 10, 2007 -> 01:23 PM) Just stumbled upon this over at MLBtraderumors.com. It lnks to an article in the Seattle Times which states that things have changed a lot in the past year in Seattle and that Ichiro may very well likely sign an extension- one that the guy over at mlbtraderumors suggests could be as high as 4/72! Ack! http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/ FOX @ ASG was using story of 5/100 for ichiro back in seattle.

QUOTE(chisox72 @ Jul 11, 2007 -> 10:15 PM) these Japanese wasps sound pretty cool. It will be a bug war in the Ash forests of America... I dont know if i am as excited about a new species of wasps, or any bug for that matter.... the last time bugs were imported for such resons, they have become a nuisance (the aisan beetle/brown lady bug) though they say that the asian ash trees over there are immune to the beetle, why dont we get some of those ash trees?

QUOTE(klaus kinski @ Jul 10, 2007 -> 01:03 PM) Cant rule out a trade bringing a major leage outfielder here Aaron Rowand for Gio.

14mil per year vested 5th year option @ 17 if traded 1 mil added to 14/per year if traded limited NTC like others

buehrle says the escalator clause isnt the same as it was leaked a few days ago... says he thinks it does include a 1 yr no-trade

QUOTE(The Critic @ Jul 8, 2007 -> 04:03 PM) Doesn't this actually make Mark MORE attractive to possible trade partners, since he won't be a "rental" anymore and his salary would be locked in for five years? that's not even funny! heh

QUOTE(3E8 @ Jul 8, 2007 -> 03:50 PM) So it's a $19M player option if he's traded? That's the only way to get to $75M from $56M. Not consistent with what we heard yesterday.. eh, maybe the news about the sox rejecting the 17mil was just that... they wanted him to get more $$ if he got traded

QUOTE(danman31 @ Jul 8, 2007 -> 03:47 PM) I'm slightly surprised. Way to go Sox, way to go Kenny. So the Sox won't suck ass for the next few years. heh... i wouldnt guarantee that

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 8, 2007 -> 03:45 PM) The Sox never have a postgame show on WGN. yeah, but there's not even anything over on comcast... stupid fsn crap oh well where's the player option info?

QUOTE(TheBigHurt @ Jul 8, 2007 -> 03:42 PM) you'd figure that they had to screw up SOMEWHERE.... no tv postgame for more info!

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 8, 2007 -> 03:41 PM) That's just awesome!!!! Now trade Contreras, Dye, etc., and keep Buehrle, Garland, Vazquez, and Danks together. Thank you JR and Kenny....and Mrs. Buehrle and soon-to-be-born baby Buehrle. baby buehrle? dont you mean Kenny W. Buehrle?

...wheres the people that will complain that they signed him now?????????????