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I think I heard Gammons mention last year that the Red Sox fancy Youkilis as their 2B of the future more than their 3B, but I could be wrong.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 8, 2005 -> 11:48 AM) Who is the "Used up 3b"? That would be Mike Lowell Yes he is, thats why i said that he would be holding boston over a barrel for a starting position. They have been high on this guy for years, and he hasnt been able to crack the show. Maybe this is the year for him, but I think this guy is the product of the Boston hype machine. They have been trying to unload him in trades for a while, and now they bring in Mike Lowell and Andy Marte. If they bring in two 3B immediately in the offseason, do you really think that Boston thinks highly of Youkilis?

If you guys are interested, I have started listing all of the trades, rumors, and FA signings here: http://forums.prospero.com/n/mb/message.as...sox&msg=1613.11 There were so many trades that came in under the radar, I thought I would try and keep them all in one place. I update everything daily, so If you come across a signing, trade, or rumor that I havent listed, post it and I will add to the list.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 8, 2005 -> 11:39 AM) Anthrax said it best. It's a prime example of f***ing dumb. LOL. Like I said, it was only a hypothetical trade (as far as i could tell, there were no links), but it gives you a good idea of what they think of the Cub organization.

QUOTE(BlackBetsy @ Dec 8, 2005 -> 11:30 AM) Gammons is reporting on ESPN- blurb on ESPN.com. LINKY Andy Marte is one of the top prospects in the game. The Red Sox must be convinced they are getting Lugo... If you were the D-Rays, wouldnt you just stick it to the Red Sox and keep Lugo? That would be hilarious, the Red Sox let Cabrera go, they sign Renteria, then they trade Hanley Ramirez, then trade Renteria because they think Lugo is in the mix. and now they have no shortstop, a used up 3B, and a prospect 3B, and probably have to hope that Graffanino wont hold them over a barrel for a starting position. No, I cannot tell that Boston doesnt have a GM. Not at all.

QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Dec 8, 2005 -> 11:35 AM) Hows 4th place sound this year? How does it sound? Optimistic. And that isnt even a joke.

I have been reading about this for a while. the rumor is that Keady will eventually become the Head Coach, Sam Mitchell will go through the end of the season and Keady will take over.

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Dec 8, 2005 -> 11:34 AM) In my college speeh classes I would always begin with, "just so you all know, you're all stupider than me". It seemd to work really well. I always followed that with "And frat boys are even worse"

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/12/08/coulter.row.ap/index.html Thats right Anne, if you dont grab your audience with your introduction speech, then call them all stupid. Then you will have their attention.

QUOTE(Gavin @ Dec 6, 2005 -> 11:09 PM) Christ, I wish my siblings were as big fans as me. That'd make christmas hella-easy. My GF is a sox fan but she loved Rowand, now he's gone. Thanks a lot, KW. So you wanna give Thome back? Chicks dig the long ball. Dont worry, your GF will learn to love Thome.

QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Dec 8, 2005 -> 11:04 AM) Wait a sec They would get Brett Myers, Aberu(sp), Zito and still they said no...WOW, that is f***ing dumb. Thats my point That is a prime example of overvalue.

Brucey has been slightly more reliable this year.

QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Dec 8, 2005 -> 10:55 AM) Mike.. What you expect.. Most Cubs fans tell me that They have the better pitching staff..when healthy. No, its Bret. Mike Myers is a Free Agent, and would not be part of a 3 team deal.

Did you see the end of the article? Big Frank the Brave? When did the NL start using the DH?

QUOTE(sircaffey @ Dec 8, 2005 -> 10:43 AM) Was that Mike Myers or Bret Myers? Hopefully the first. If not, then they have serious issues. Actually you are correct, and I was way off. Bret Myers, Abreu, and Zito for Prior, Hill, and 3-4 throw-ins. Obviously this was a hypothetical 3 way trade, but jeez, thats a whole lot of overvalue-ing Prior right there. Thats one starter who went 14-13 with a 3.86 ERA who is a former Cy Young, another starter who was 13-8 with a 3.72 ERA(Myers) and Bobby Abreu, who is just a pimp. And Prior would hold up this deal for Cubs fans? Wow.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan13 @ Dec 8, 2005 -> 10:39 AM) What time/channel? I think TNA is on at 7 or 8 on Spike Tv

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 8, 2005 -> 10:24 AM) Jose Macias? :puke Graffanino please. I wouldnt mind Vizcaino though. He is old, but he just keeps producing

I just read this post on a Cubs Free Agent board, when I was looking for rumors Wow, you could get a 5 tool player(Abreu), a former Cy Young winner who is still under 30(Zito) and Mike Myers to relieve, for Mark Prior, a minor league pitcher(Rich Hill), and 3-4 spare parts(I am assuming he means minor leaguers or utility players), and this guy thinks it is a bad trade because of Priors potential? Thats just ridiculous. I found this post too, and I laughed my ass off at the Dave Wannstedt reference

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Dec 8, 2005 -> 09:55 AM) So with AJ being on a pro wrestling show, tonight is the night where our post-championship reign jumps the shark blasphemy. Dont ever compare a extraordinarily bad episode of Happy Days to the White Sox Championship reign. Besides, the White Sox havent done "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" yet, so there is still hope.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Dec 8, 2005 -> 01:32 AM) Will they compete for anything more than third place in the next decade? They just spent 100 million dollars on gambles. They traded for a first baseman... now have four guys that play 1st and 3rd. Only of only one of them can dh and none of them play the outfield. As i see it one of those guys will be wasted unless someone converts to the outfield really quick. I like overbay... i think he is overated and underated in some sense. But this move makes no sense unless they have another deal in following this one to move one of hinkse, koskie, hillenbrand. They don't have to worry. The mets and orioles are still ahead of them stupidity wise. They arent done making moves. Im gonna wait until the end of the week before I proclaim them as the worst run organization in the league. The moves they have made have been intriguing to me. You are right about the gambles, but you cant have only "sure" things.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 06:13 PM) White sox josh is gonna be mad about this.

It means his arm truly will fall off soon.

I just want the Bears to win. If it is Orton, then so be it. If it is Grossman, well thats just great too.

QUOTE(Pauly8509CWS @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 04:30 PM) Did anyone else watch the SC on Sunday night, where Berman botched the plays of the week and said "I need to run that again." And they went to a commercial and came back and tried doing it again, and he did totally different catch phrases I saw that too. It was really bad. I didnt really think about it until you just said it. The strangest thing was that he botched the first read, then they went to commercial(after he said he was gonna do it again, and then after a black screen), ESPN then ran 2 other segments, and then Berman took another crack at it. It was as if Berman said to them "Lets run something else for a few segments so they forget about that."

I dont know if any of you are watching ESPNews right now, but Linda Cohn was just interviewing a guy who wrote a book of the Top 50 darkhorse moments in Sports. The poor guy who is getting interviewed got a frog in his throat about halfway through the interview, and couldnt stop coughing for the rest of the interview. I felt really bad for the guy, but it was really funny.