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Not to switch topics but ESPN also reporting the Bears might get Favre...just what I saw on ESPN. What a day if the Sox and Bears get MVP type players from the mid-90s on their last legs (arms).

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 08:48 AM) Even if the deal is for a couple of minor leaguers I'm confused to what his role will be on this team. His role will be to get on base and get hits. The guy can still play (he is not a star) and I am willing to take a chance on him continuing his ascension this season if its a couple of minor leaguers that aren't named Poreda. He can't be worse than what Konerko and Swisher have been producing, can he?

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 08:48 AM) Even if the deal is for a couple of minor leaguers I'm confused to what his role will be on this team.

QUOTE (joesaiditstrue @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 08:42 AM) Reds fans SPECULATING FIELDS for Griffey i hope this is just a bad f***ing dream if true FIXED

Perhaps Thome and Cabrera getting dealt for starting pitching? So Griffey fills in for Thome? Otherwise very confused as to what this does to help us?

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 25, 2008 -> 07:22 AM) Yeah, and there's that other thing about her...hmm, what could it be... She used to be a man?!?

So is there any real advantage to "drafting and tracking" a player other than building a relationship with the player/family? I mean, even with a good relationship, someone else can still draft him later and its simply a wasted pick. I understand the potential for signing the player when he is a free agent but drafting a guy out of high school, then the player going to college, then getting drafted again by another team, then playing in the minors, then cracking the majors, then playing out the league minimum years, then the arbitration years and then hitting free agency...we're talking about 8-10 years minimum. I know you have to take chances with high ceiling players and hope the money will entice him but unless the pick is extremely late in the draft, it seems like a waste. The Jordan Danks example may debunk this theory but I'm not sure why we decided to pull the trigger in the 7th round instead of the 6th (I know we had to get KWJr but still...) or the 8th round? Did we have some inside info that another team might pull the trigger (say a family insider in the know)?

QUOTE (Soxpranos @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 09:56 PM) Scouts inc says that he will be our #1 prospect as soon as he signs. Anyone in the first 10 picks (replace Castro with Smoak) would have been our top prospect. I can't complain about this pick...especially after seeing him go yard today in the Super Regional game. I really wanted Smoak, mostly due to the Texeira comparison but I have since come around and have a clearer head. It was a good pick.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 03:27 PM) 3B Morel - SS Ramirez - 2B Beckham - 1B Fields Fixed

QUOTE (bullpenHeat @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 03:10 PM) 8 Chicago White Sox Gordon Beckham SS Georgia He wasn't supposed to be available at this spot, so the White Sox must be thrilled. He can play second base, but there's a good chance he stays at shortstop. He has tremendous baseball instincts. He'll probably move pretty quickly through the system. He instantly becomes the best prospect in the organization the day he signs. Thats keith laws input. He might be dumb, but he knows more than any of us. Texas Rangers Justin Smoak 1B South Carolina This is the best pick in the draft so far. Smoak is the third-best player on my board. He's a switch-hitting Adrian Gonzalez with more power. In the Rangers' ballpark, he has a good chance to hit 40 home runs, if he develops. There are no major holes in his game. I saw this scenario possibly unfolding last night. A lot of things had to go right for them to get Smoak, and they did. So, you don't think the same could have been said for Smoak if not more? I don't understand why people are called malcontents if they prefer one player over another (both of which are good players)?

QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 03:03 PM) Astros, hahahahaha. I don't think the Astros fans will take kindly to him playing a ukelalie (sp?) and singing "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" in a falsetto.

QUOTE (JDsDirtySox @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 03:01 PM) Beckham projects as a More Powerful/Lower Batting Avg. Michael Young... I can live with that. I just don't want to see Brett Wallace go to the Twins or Indians. Cards at 13 is my guess.

QUOTE (RME JICO @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 03:00 PM) I am fine with the pick. Between Beckham and Smoak, it probably came down to utility. At worst Beckham can be a useful utility infielder while Smoak is somewhat limited to 1B/DH duties, which seem to be in abundance. Good point. But in the top 10, you have to try and get the star. I guess I'm just not as high on Beckham as I was on Smoak but I'll get around to it.

QUOTE (DBAH0 @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 02:56 PM) Even if Beckham ends up at 2B, it's still not that bad of a scenario. He projects to be a mix b/w Khalil Greene and Michael Young offensively (Greene would be a .260 20HR hitter away from PETCO FWIW), and that's pretty good production from either a 2B or a SS. I guess with O-Cab unlikely to stay, and Uribe not a long - term option, the Sox needed somebody they could count on from 2010 onwards to be a part of that middle infield. Ramirez, Getz, Richar?

I want a Frank Thomas-type at #8, not Ray Durham. I think we will regret this pick.

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 02:52 PM) Looks like our middle-infield of the future is Ramirez at 2B and Beckham at SS, or vice versa. Smoak to the Nats or the 'Stros? That's too bad. I guess Beckham's tools were too much to pass on. And they probably like Swish at 1B any way. Oh well, I guess, Smoak can go rot in the NL

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 02:47 PM) If we take Beckham I'm going to throw-up all over my keyboard. I'm telling you, Kenny already got his SS of the future in Ramirez and he know's it. We will take Smoak...unless we are very intrigued by Crow.

QUOTE (quickman @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 02:40 PM) the guy can flat out hit, I truly think he will be a huge offensive threat. That explanation would be fine if you said, "I like Wallace" but you said "...Wallace over Smoak?" Can't the same explanation be used for Smoak? Why do you think Wallace will be better?

QUOTE (quickman @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 02:38 PM) please take wallace over smoak. Why? Is it the thighs?

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 02:22 PM) Just got scheduled for a 1:30 meeting...ugh! If the Sox take Castro, please someone give a "f*** this" for me. Fathom, you're late...I needed those TPS reports on my desk by 1:30 pm.

1. Smoak 2. Crow 3. Wallace 4. G. Beckham Rank of the guys I think we have a realistic shot at getting.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jun 2, 2008 -> 06:26 AM) I hope that the only reason why Smoak and Crow aren't being talked about are because they are projecting them to be gone by 8. Because if Smoak and/or Crow are there at 8 for some reason, and we draft freaking Gordon Beckham (who I think is extremely overrated) or Brett Wallace (or even worse, Jason Castro) over them, I would cry a lot and throw a big hissy fit. Under the radar, KW style and no doubt a Dave Wilder recommendation, respectively.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 1, 2008 -> 07:57 PM) Alonso is an OBP machine though. In our park, anyone can hit 20 homers. What about a guy that hit 35 one year in a pitcher's park and then came to Sox and is on pace to hit less than 12? But in all seriousness, if we can't get Smoak, we need another big time prospect, which Alonso could be.

QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Jun 2, 2008 -> 03:20 PM) If Floyd and a mediumish prospect could get you Brian Roberts, would you do it? As Roberts' avg takes a dip, this isnt impossible. Matt Garza netted Delmon Young, and Floyd's value right now is higher than Garza's was. But I'm not certain he's miles beyond him as a pitcher. No. I would rather keep Floyd and look for Alexei to continue to get hot. While it would be nice to have a legit lead-off man with base stealing capabilities, the problem with our current offense is the previous "heart of the order." Cabrera is doing fine at lead-off and Alexei is doing pretty well lately at 2B and at the plate.

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jun 2, 2008 -> 03:17 PM) Uribe, Crede, and Swisher for Kemp. Bring up Fields. Ramirez 2B Cabrera SS Quentin LF Dye RF Kemp CF AJP C Fields 3B Konerko 1B Thome DH Wouldn't mind that. You could probably get Steve Kemp for that offer.