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QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 20, 2010 -> 10:11 AM) This reminds me I forgot Steve Vai on my list up there. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U9Lqki7Y9k Dean Ween is also an awesome guitarist.

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QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 03:28 PM) And Alexei says no. He really deserves a GG... http://www.soxtalk.com/chat/chatroom.html

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QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 03:20 PM) Cuddyer could have caught that throw pretty easily He's an awful infielder.

QUOTE (qwerty @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 03:14 PM) Garcia has been nothing short of outstanding this season. MVP. It's a travesty he wasn't an All-Star.

Inception: good.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 16, 2010 -> 03:10 PM) When you have three first round picks in consecutive years, three of which came in the top-6, you're supposed to wind up with more than Johnny Flynn, Wes Johnson, Lazar Heyward and Martell Webster. No major disagreements. I do like Webster and think he'll be a quality player for us (and think that was a good deal for the team as aw hole), but I agree that we should have taken Cousins instead of Johnson, and obviously either Curry or Jennings would have been better than Flynn. As I said, most of Kahn's faults have been through his drafting, and I certainly don't agree with everything he's done through the draft. QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 16, 2010 -> 03:10 PM) He took three point guards in 2009 (...) No, he took two, one of which is in Europe. The trade with Denver was done already when the team took Lawson, and he was taken for the Nuggets. The Nuggets drafted him, but since they had to wait to officially announce the trade, the Timberwolves sent the pick into the league. QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 16, 2010 -> 03:10 PM) Their best or second best asset right now is still playing in Barcelona because he wasn't happy with playing in Minnesota and/or splitting time with Flynn. He's also developing and maturing while not on our nickel. Obviously it would have been nice for Rubio to come over right away, but it seemed like a longshot anyway, and he's still got a ton of potential. He'll come over after next season, and whether or not he performs will definitely impact how Kahn's tenure is evaluated. QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 16, 2010 -> 03:10 PM) Their best player by a wide margin is still Kevin Love, who was already on the roster. Picking up Michael Beasley was a nice move, but he's largely blocked by Love and the SF trio of Brewer/Webster/Johnson. I imagine Love will stay as the 6th man, as the team loves having him come off the bench. I don't really understand it, but Beasley is a quality player with a ton of talent that we picked up for essentially nothing. He'll fit our system better than Jefferson, and is still incredibly young. I don't see how anyone could criticize that move, regardless of his position. I imagine if they want him to play with Love, he'll move into the SF spot, with one of Brewer/Johnson/Webster taking over the two-guard responsibilities. QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 16, 2010 -> 03:10 PM) They still don't have a legitimate starting center, an above average point guard, or a solid shooting guard (Brewer looks like a far better fit at SF). The only position they're DEFINITELY set at is PF, where he inherited two solid options already. I think it's too early to tell about a couple positions, given the youth the team has. We could potentially be set at PG and SF (depending on Rubio and Johnson), and is Pekovic is as good as some of the reports I've read, we could have a solid C as well. Right now, the team is really focused on developing the young talent that we already have, which is more than you could say about the Wolves during the McHale era. Are we out of the rebuilding phase? Absolutely not, but are we better than we were last year? I think so, and I think that the organization (for once) actually has a plan that it's trying to execute. QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 16, 2010 -> 03:37 PM) The only real hope on that team is if someone like Flynn or Johnson is a lot better than people think or Rubio finally comes over and wows everyone. That's not really a good sign. Everyone has said that Johnson is probably going to be an above average player, just not a star. I agree that Flynn turning into something more would be a big deal, but I wouldn't be surprised if Johnson is an above average NBA player, which is a solid addition at the 4th pick in the draft. We're a superstar short, no doubt, but we still have some talent on this team.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jul 16, 2010 -> 02:06 PM) Little reason? Have you seen the "team" he has put together? Have you seen what the team was before he was here? Old and had no hope for the future. Now we actually have young players that are pretty solid, as well as a number of future draft picks and a ton of financial room. No one could have expected anyone to come into Minnesota and suddenly turn them into a perennial playoff team within two years. As is, we're in much better shape than we were with McHale, and the vast majority of Kahn's non-draft moves have been pretty solid. You can question his decisions in the draft all you want, but no matter who he took in the draft, we'd be in a pretty similar position as we are today. And yeah, I have seen the "team" that he's put together. Considering we won 15 games last year, I think we're drastically improved and should win anywhere from 20-25 games. You can hate on that all you want, but this is an organization that's rebuilding and stocking assets for the future, which is exactly what he's done. If you disagree with any of this, please feel free to let me know exactly what Kahn has done so terribly that you could have done better. Signed Darko to an average deal? Signed Pekovic for chump change? Traded just about nothing for Michael Beasley? Seriously, what has he done to put our organization in a worse position than it was under McHale? Just to clarify, I'm not saying Kahn is amazing and without fautls. I'm not saying he's top 5 in the NBA, and I definitely don't think we're done with the rebuilding process yet. Hell, I disagree with some of his moves, especially draft related (aaarg Wes Johnson), but the fact of the matter is that we're in a much better position than we were before. People don't seem to realize how hopeless our organization was under McHale, and Kahn has at least given the team some direction and a longterm plan. We're young and better than we used to be, which a lot of the media seems to completely ignore.

QUOTE (Chi Town Sox @ Jul 16, 2010 -> 09:11 AM) I wouldn't bring David Kahn into this! There are some strong supporters out there! Yes, how dare people attempt to defend someone that just gets constantly s*** on by the entire media for very little reason.

QUOTE (Chi Town Sox @ Jul 14, 2010 -> 05:46 PM) Who was telling me in this thread awhile back that David Kahn has made better moves lately? That's 4 PG's, unless Sessions gets dealt http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/38243622/ns/...ts-player_news/ Sessions is on his way out of town. Has been for awhile. And even if he isn't (he is, but that's irrelevant), that's 3 PGs, not 4. My opinion of Kahn is summed up pretty well in this post. I think he's gotten a bad rap by the media for no real reason. As of today, the franchise is in a much better position than it was before he came here, and we have a ton of young talent and other assets.

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jul 14, 2010 -> 06:12 PM) Obviously, Mall of America, and I forget the name, but there's a great restaurant outside of Target Center where the Timberwolves play. Check it out. Kieran's Irish Pub is across the street from the Target Center and is a solid place to eat. Other than that, the Loon Cafe is down the block and is an excellent place to eat.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 14, 2010 -> 11:09 AM) maybe a bunch of mediocre centers are just harder to come by than a bunch of mediocre guards...shock...and it's probably true! It is, which is why the deal isn't bad at all.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jul 14, 2010 -> 10:54 AM) So it's not a bad contract because a bunch of other mediocre centers are getting rich too? I guess by that logic, none of the rich contracts to mediocre players this summer are bad since so many of them are being dished out. It's not a bad contract because the market value for a 7 footer with his skill set are getting the same amount, yes. Contracts are set by the value the market sets for them, and Darko got the right amount. Sure, you'd like to sign people to a below market value deal, but more often than not the deals you make are determined by the contracts previous players that are similar already received.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jul 14, 2010 -> 10:45 AM) Two separate points there. His contract isn't as bad when compared to other ones this offseason, and in fact could be defended as one of the "better" deals of the summer. But it's still bad. I linked to this like 30 pages ago, but no one probably read it because no one wants to realize that Darko isn't actually awful (and neither is his deal). Centers with comparable ages, PER and contracts: Krstic is on a 3yr, $15.8 mil contract. Zaza is on a 4yr, $19 mil contract. Biedrins is on a 6yr, $62 mil contract Ty is on a 6yr, $64 mil contract Hollins is on a 3yr, $7 mil contract. Remind me again how his deal is bad? Courtesy of CanisHoopus. There were no other options at center available, so we picked up Darko for market value. He's a 7 footer with decent defense that's still just 25. There's nothing at all wrong with that contract, and I'm getting tired of people bashing it just because Darko is forever associated with being a bust.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jul 14, 2010 -> 09:48 AM) http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont...?urn=nba,255726 That article is moronic. Darko's contract isn't bad at all, especially in comparison to the other awful deals given out this offseason.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 13, 2010 -> 01:10 PM) He'd be playing out of position then... He did play center for the Timberwolves too every now and again, although he is awful defensively there. Still not sure how I feel about the deal. If we can turn the cap space into a quality player during the season, I'd be in favor of it (especially if teams decide they need to avoid the luxury tax ala the Eric Maynor deal). Otherwise, trading him essentially for pure cap space is utterly pointless.

QUOTE (TitoMB @ Jul 11, 2010 -> 03:24 PM) What's wrong with it? I don't understand. It is beyond terrible. One of the worst nickname attempts I've ever heard.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 11, 2010 -> 02:57 PM) That's only after 2002 though, where his legs were pretty much done. Griffey was a great CF in his prime, at least Total Zone says so. Well yeah. In his prime, Griffey was an awesome CF. In his prime, he was also an awesome player. I was talking about him in his golden girl years. The UZR/150 I posted was for McLouth, not Griffey. Apologies if I wasn't clear about that, but the point stands. McLouth is an awful defensive CF.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 11, 2010 -> 12:51 PM) McLouth isn't a poor defender. Never deserved the GG, but he can get the job done in CF but would be more than adequate in RF, a lot better than Quentin. Problem is, he's forgotten how to hit. Like you said though, if the Braves were just giving him away, I'd have no problem with bringing him and seeing if he can learn how to hit again. So could Griffey, that doesn't mean he's a CF. Career -9.4 UZR/150 in CF, where he's spent most of his time. He is definitely a very poor defensive CF He's not as bad a hitter as he's been this year, but I don't think he's worth taking a flyer on. Even if his BABIP evened out and got back to his career norms, he's due to make 6.5 million next year with a team option for 10.65 in 2012, and I'm not sure that he's worth it. The only way I'd really consider it is if Linebrink were involved, and even then, I don't think I'd do it.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 11, 2010 -> 03:11 AM) Sooooo boring, there isn't a single scene from that movie that is stuck in my head, completely forgettable. And Ewan McGregor needs to stop doing American accents because they're epically horrible and it's funny because he was doing an American accent while playing a character who in real life is f***ing British an accent that he can actually pull off as a Scotsman. Trainspotting Haven't seen The Men Who Stare At Goats yet, but I wanted to after seeing the trailers. I haven't heard many good things about it, so I've been delayed in getting to it, but I will eventually.

If they really wanted to send a message to the entire forum, they wouldn't have hid the initial post in a Catch-All thread in an offtopic forum, where I'd guess the vast majority of PHT readers don't venture.

QUOTE (kev211 @ Jul 11, 2010 -> 12:38 AM) I love our superstar. I think you use the term superstar too loosely. He might be one some day, but he's not there yet.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 11, 2010 -> 02:01 AM) Oh interesting, I was not aware of that. If someone has a link to that article, I would love to see it. http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/fantasy/...home-run-derby/ Props to qwerty for his initial post.